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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 05:39 PM
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Need help on Palin Email
Edited on Sun Sep-14-08 05:44 PM by Kittycat
My friend is asking me to help research this chain mail she received from her mom. It's not on snopes, but I don't believe this is at all accurate. Are there any sources out there that have checked in to all this?

I need a link refuting some/all/none/whatever I hate this lying bitch... *Sorry, my fingers just threw up on the keyboard.

Palin's Security Clearance

Before you dismiss the fact that Sarah Palin is Commander of the Alaska National Guard consider this.

Alaska is the first line of defense in our missile interceptor defense system. The 49th Missile Defense Battalion of the Alaska National Guard is the unit that protects the entire nation from ballistic missile attacks. It's on permanent active duty, unlike other Guard units.

As governor of Alaska , Palin is briefed on highly classified military issues, homeland security, and counterterrorism. Her exposure to classified material may rival even Biden's and certainly by far exceeds Obama's.

She's also the commander in chief of the Alaska State Defense Force (ASDF), a federally recognized militia incorporated into Homeland Security's counterterrorism plans.

Palin is privy to military and intelligence secrets that are vital to the entire country's defense. Given Alaska 's proximity to Russia , she may have security clearances we don't even know about.

According to the Washington Post, she first met with McCain in February, but nobody ever found out. This is a woman used to keeping secrets.

She can be entrusted with our national security, because she already is.



If you don't stand behind our troops, please feel free to stand in front of them...
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medicswife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 05:44 PM
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1. Ok. Time to dig out my google.
I'm going to do some research for you because this made me want to pick up a hammer and smash my computer monitor. My husband is Active Duty. I know for a fact that there is no such thing as a National Guard Unit being on "Permanent" Active Duty. There are TWO bases in Alaska. Fort Richardson and Fort Wainwright. Those are the ACTIVE components of the US Army in Alaska. Now, again, this stuff here, this is just stuff I know. But, I'm going to start digging and talk to a girl I know here at Fort Campbell that works up at JAG. I'm no military genius by any means, but I'm a little more knowledgeable about the Army than some.

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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 05:45 PM
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3. Thank you...
I started searching as well, but I keep getting puke sites that support it - nothing independent.
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medicswife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 05:52 PM
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5. Ok, here's from the General in charge of the AK Nat. Guard.....
And while the Alaska National Guard operates a launch site for a US anti-missile system at Fort Greely, about 100 miles south of Fairbanks, the Alaskan governor is not in the site's chain of command and has no authority over its operations, according to Maj. Gen. Craig E. Campbell, the adjutant general of the Alaska National Guard who commands the roughly 3,800 state militia members.

"Our National Guard is basically just like any National Guard," said Maj. Gen. Craig E. Campbell, the adjutant general of the Alaska National Guard who commands the roughly 3,800 state militia members. Campbell, a native of Springfield, Mass., said by telephone. "You could call Joe Carter in Massachusetts and he would say he is organized the same way."


So, that debunks the claim that she is in charge of the Guard. The Nat. Guard gets it's orders from the Pentagon, just like the regular Army. State's Governors have tried to stop deployments or get the troops brought back when their states need them for things like fire fighting in Montana, but they are always shot down. As the Guard operates under the Pentagon, the PRESIDENT is the one who is really in control.

Let me see what else I can dig up.
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medicswife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 06:03 PM
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8. As far as the intelligence that Obama is privy to.....
He has been receiving briefings Intelligence briefings since he became the official nominee for the Democratic party, and his position as Senator required him to receive a Security Clearance. I don't know much about whether or not Palin had a Security Clearance prior to being named McCain's running mate, but I'll betcha she does have one now.

I'm trying to take this thing one line at a time. The Alaska Defense whatever is a law enforcement agency. The Governor can call on them in times of emergency.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 05:45 PM
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2. "Are there any sources out there that have checked in to all this?"
Edited on Sun Sep-14-08 05:46 PM by tuvor
There's your answer. Throw it all back at the sender demanding reputable proof. Get them to do the work.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 05:46 PM
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4. I doubt that person cares.
The woman's mom is a diehard. She's going to respond to all though, if we can get some backup on it.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 05:54 PM
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6. If nobody knew about her meeting with McLiar, then...
...what was that clip of her talking on TV about needing to know what a VP does on a daily basis before she could consider the job?

And if keeping a secret qualifies her for being a veep, then there are thousands and thousands of civil servants and contractor employees with security clearances who fill the bill, as well.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 05:54 PM
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7. Sara Palin doesn't do squat with her national guard or with US defense...
All of the assets used to defend from Russian or other strikes are handled by national defense agencies, not her sorry ass gov'nor's office.

In an interview, she admitted that she'd never ever activated the National Guard.

You could put Carrot Top in her office, and it wouldn't make us less safe.

Sure, she's briefed on state level counter-terrorist and homeland security issues, like any other governor and like big city mayors, it doesn't give her good judgement and as there haven't been any major terrorist activities to respond to in her state, I don't see the significance of this point.
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margotb822 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 06:05 PM
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9. This is all over freeper-world
It's BS and it puts the burden of proof on the reader. I would send it back to the original sender and ask for proof. I would also include the fact that Todd Palin has been subpoenaed in Trooper-gate and he's included in 1100 emails deemed that Palin is withholding due to "executive privilege." Good at keeping secrets? Maybe from the people of Alaska regarding her abuse of power, but she looks to her husband for matters of government business. I'm sure the freepers love that she asks her husband's opinion before doing her job...
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NorthwestNut Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 06:05 PM
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10. Well, without doing any research:
One can say:
She *may* have some of these responsibilities or privileges, but there is no indication that she ever ACTED upon any of them. Basically, you've been given a list of titles that she has without any evidence that she has ever used her power to DO anything. Russia hasn't been an active threat to the US since the fall of the Soviet Union.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 06:12 PM
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11. Looks like this originated from someone's blog and has nothing in
it that is actually based on facts, just supposition.

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2008/08/commanding-the.html

The 49th Missile Defense Battalion is part of NORAD, and she would have no command control over their activities. If they are activated, it would be through the US Military. This is crap. As if they're going to give a 2 year governor the keys to the national security secrets of the entire country. This doesn't even pass the smell test.
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NorthwestNut Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 06:17 PM
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12. Ok, as far as the ASDF goes..
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 06:18 PM
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13. Big WoW
Security clearence doesn't mean you're briefed on all the National Security issues. It just means you've been checked out fairly thoroughly.

Lots of people have security clearance. Doesn't make the VP material.
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