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Alhena Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 05:51 PM
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Freepers underwhelmed by Palin's performance ... link
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2080341/posts

I personally thought that, even apart from the Bush doctrine gaffe, her interview delivery was choppy and not up to presidential standards. She's no dummy, but the ecstatic reviews about her being the greatest thing ever will hopefully go away.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 05:52 PM
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1. No one's going over there....
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:10 PM
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19. No? I do all of the time.
Yes, it's painful reading that tripe...but I'd rather know the enemy than be blissfully ignorant.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 05:53 PM
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2. Pod.
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 05:54 PM
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3. But... but... the EDITING sucked!
Waaaaahhh!!!! Wasn't her fault! The editors did a hack job!!! :rofl:
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Lucy Goosey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:01 AM
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40. Whatever. That is the same thing that every hated reality show contestant whine about.
And the vice presidency isn't a reality show.
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RollWithIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 05:56 PM
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4. Brief sample of three responses in a row... they aren't happy... lol
To: KayEyeDoubleDee

I watched the interview. Charlie was a condcending jerk that most of us women have to put up with daily. This interview will only increase SARAH PALIN’s popularity. He cared nothing about her responces and didn’t even want to hear them. He is a SOB!

My boss treats me just like Charlie treated her.

ABC needs to be contacted.

212-456-7777
800-347-6391

22 posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:48:37 PM by JFC (The libs fear us Republicans.. wait until JUDGEMENT DAY!!)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

I’ve worked in TV news and the way that interview was edited was a complete abomination.

A supposed top-of-the-line network news organization just put on a piece of edited footage that looked like it was done by volunteers at a community access channel.

Just watch any of the news magazine shows on the networks, they have smooth, slick edits between questions and answers.

The way this interview was presented was a complete travesty.

She obviously didn’t give them any ammunition from her words, so, they did everything possible in the editing process to make her look bad.

I am absolutely appalled and disgusted.

23 posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:49:06 PM by waus (Animal House, with a slight variance: Have another beer Barry.)
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I bet the left wingers spin her as confrontational. I didn’t like the way she kept saying Charlie’s name. She was definately nervous...no doubt about it. Her best answers were about energy, Russia and reform. As the interview went on he started pushing issues in Iran, Isreal and Pakistan. Then came the dreaded Bush doctrine question.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:06 PM
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14. Tee hee hee...
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 06:07 PM by 1corona4u
Call ABC...WTF? Do these idiots REALLY want someone in the WH that is this CLUELESS? Don't they even care about their OWN SKIN?? IF I were a republican, there is NO WAY I would vote for her. IF I couldn't bring myself to vote for Obama, I'd just have to sit this one out. Seriously, party aside, republicans need to think about the consequences of this...but they probably won't.

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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:10 PM
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18. oh Jesus.
the first comment, immediately comparing Charlie to her "boss", playing the sexism card. Projection is a scary thing. Did they think that Gibson was oh so respectful to Obama?
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 05:56 PM
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5. Tee hee...my favorite comment
"sorry to agree. am not a lib. was happy yesterday. not happy at all today.

She didnt know what the Bush Doctrine is, even I know that.

They should have kept her locked up reading briefing books, not making stump speeches.
The speeches were great, but the rest wasnt. She should have been prepared to address lack of foreign policy exp. Everyone knew she would be asked,
she could have said “It takes certain traits...like toughness, ability to talk to different people etc”, instead she filibustered. Even the question about whether she had met a foreign head of state. Sure, an obnoxious question,she could have said that she meets all kinds of
big shots in Alaska....etc
horrible."

The rest of them are grumbling about bad editing of the interview segments. I am guessing that because it's being done up in Alaska rather than at ABC HQ, but that's only a guess.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:02 PM
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9. She Went To 6 Schools To Finish A Communications Degree
Did these Freepers really think that she was going to absorb briefing books in two weeks?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:00 PM
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6. Well I went over - thanks for the link.
Keep your enemies closer. :)

Their responses run the gamut from those who thought she was just terrif, to anger at Charlie Gibson (He would NEVER ask Obama such questions!), complaints about the editing (which I've seen mentioned here - must have been pretty choppy), and there were some objective criticisms.

Everybody agreed she was probably nervous, and most mentioned the Bush Doctrine thing. I can hardly wait to see it!


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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:05 PM
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13. Predominant thing I got from that nauseating excursion:
Apparently Charlie Gibson wasn't treating her with proper "deference".
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Veruca Salt Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 07:58 PM
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32. I saw part of it when I was at the gym tonight
particularly the part when she was giving an answer on foreign policy. Her answer almost immediately diverted from the topic and it was the most terrible thing I've ever seen. I almost fell off the treadmill I was laughing so hard. You'll love it! :evilgrin:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:45 PM
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36. I saw it and her answer about Israel bombing Iran -- which she gave
THREE TIMES when Gibson tried to elicit a real response, was almost PAINFUL. "Charlie, we can not second guess what Israel should do to protect their country." So are you saying... "Charlie, we would not presume to second guess Israel..." So If Israel DID... "Charlie, it is not up to us to second guess Israel..."

Oh my God! Even I could have done better at NOT answering the question.

It was FAR worse than I thought it would be.

And The Bush Doctrine (hope you got a chance to see that part) - was hold-your-sides-cuz-they-hurt-from-laughing-so-hard.

She's glib, but she's definitely in WAY over her head!

The contrast between her and Biden at the debate -- I'm salivating in anticipation.


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Veruca Salt Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 08:50 AM
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38. Oh my god is right!
So is it not up to us to second guess the genocide in Darfur? That's not an answer she gave, it's another cop out (I wouldn't have expected a real answer from her anyway given the small part I saw). She probably looks at it like it would be another one of her 'holy wars'. Yeesh. :mad:

I can't wait to see the rest of it! Especially if the part on the bush doctrine is as good (or should I say bad? HA!) as everyone has been saying. Going to try to watch the whole thing tonight on the youtubes.

Biden is going to shine in comparison to her at the debate! I'll bring the popcorn. :popcorn:
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:01 PM
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7. Freepers are nervous about the VP now I bet
Joes gonna chew her up and spit her out if she doesn't know what the Bush Doctrine is. Joe is the ultimate expert...Sarah is the ultimate idiot.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:01 PM
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8. call and comment to ABC...here are the numbers
from a rethug post:

212-456-7777
800-347-6391
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:03 PM
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10. Bottom of the first page
Someone is whining about how D.U. and Moveon are probably calling ABC and saying what a great job she did. :rofl:

Little do they know - regardless of how BAD she did - the majority of us think Charlie and ABC are bunch of tools! :rofl:
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:03 PM
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11. How hilarious... concerned, stressed-out repugs LOL!!
:rofl:

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Hard Leftt Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:04 PM
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12. If they are underwhelmed...
It must be a train wreck. If it is a train-wreck, it's game, set, match Obama.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:07 PM
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15. Ha ha! One poster says Gibson was condescending; urging everyone to contact ABC
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:09 PM
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17. Charlie is one of them and BFF with Brit Hume
Wow didn't think it was that bad...if they are upset it was really bad.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:11 PM
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20. Oh, because he asked valid questions?
I guess they thought it would be about her personal life, because that's where her experience lies, not in politics/world events.

At least Obama knows what he's talking about.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:08 PM
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16. Yes, we went for a nice little drive. It was all just lovely. Except for going over the cliff
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:12 PM
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21. Interesting to see a view from the other side.. They are pissed because she did poorly
and blaming ABC. Just like we do here when it doesn't go the way we like :rofl:
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:14 PM
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22. My favorite poster
was the one that kept going on and on about the sound and video being out of sync. I think there were about 8 of those posts.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:24 PM
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23. hey, a couple honest freepers, specially toward the end
"She's doing some double-talk - Gibson asked about the "Bush Doctrine" and she didn't seem quite sure what it was, she was asked about her national defense credentials, and she spun into an energy discussion. Gibson agreed that energy is important, but then said there is more to defense than just energy - she stuck with her energy bit.
I love her to death, but it seems a little scattered."

"She’s on the defensive big time. She seems nervous and Charlie keeps pushing her. He is going topic to topic and it seems like he’s playing a little gotcha."

"Not too bad either. She stumbled by not recognizing the definition of "The Bush Doctrine."

Not a home run by any means, but a solid double."


"I didn’t like the way she kept saying Charlie’s name. She was definately nervous...no doubt about it. Her best answers were about energy, Russia and reform. As the interview went on he started pushing issues in Iran, Isreal and Pakistan. Then came the dreaded Bush doctrine question."


"She and I am very upset with such talking down to as if she has no opinion even when asked a question."


"sorry to agree. am not a lib. was happy yesterday. not happy at all today.

She didnt know what the Bush Doctrine is, even I know that.

They should have kept her locked up reading briefing books, not making stump speeches.
The speeches were great, but the rest wasnt. She should have been prepared to address lack of foreign policy exp. Everyone knew she would be asked,
she could have said “It takes certain traits...like toughness, ability to talk to different people etc”, instead she filibustered. Even the question about whether she had met a foreign head of state. Sure, an obnoxious question,she could have said that she meets all kinds of
big shots in Alaska....etc
horrible."

"How do you expect her to come across when she knows the enenmy is right in front of her ready to strike her down with any mis-step?

I expect her to be able to handle herself with confidence, poise and some good answers. That's why she's in the big leagues."














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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:46 PM
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25. idiots
""How do you expect her to come across when she knows the enenmy is right in front of her ready to strike her down with any mis-step?"

Barack Obama went into the mouth of hell to interview with O'Reilly and he did just fine. These paranoid whiny little twits can kiss my ass.

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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 07:10 PM
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30. "They should have kept her locked up reading briefing books, not making stump speeches."
Doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement now does it? tee..hee.hee
:rofl:
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DeschutesRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:35 PM
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24. Uh, oh, Dorothy - this ain't high school anymore
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 06:39 PM by DeschutesRiver
and this wasn't the lame competition for high school point guard. Or a high school bb game won by earning the nickname "Sarah Barracuda" for mindless agression and tricky moves.

Honestly, if McCain was my candidate, and I was a Freeper, I'd be demanding the old bastard's head on a platter for making a fool of me, and expect to see someone truly qualified replacing this pandering Palin cheapshot that he delivered to them. I'd sure be rethinking my candidate's false premise of "Country First" at a minimum.

But they are choosing to blame bad editing, mean old repub Charlie Gibson, bad questions, a lack of deference (regarding how poor old Sarah was "talked down to", and the like). Not one is demanding answers from the one really at fault, ie the incompentent McCain and his bad rash judgement.

Not that it would make a diff - McCain doesn't admit mistakes, and really doesn't care what these freepers think. So long as they STFU and vote for him. McCain doesn't support the freepers platforms anyhoo, and frankly, a lot of them have bitched about what a bad guy McCain was for years.

I can tell you for a fact, as a registered Independent voter, that if Obama had picked this mess of a vp candidate, I would no longer have supported his candidacy. Period. Thankfully, Obama isn't dumb, and if he ever made a whopper of a mis-judgment of character or mistake in a person he selected for any job, he has more than proven to me that he would fix that mistake. More than I can say of McCain.
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:58 PM
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26. If Gibson was a challenge just wait til Biden takes his turn. He'll leave her stuttering.
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:59 PM
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27. How could you not be. It's obvious.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 07:06 PM
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28. My favorite quote
It comes on later for me, but I saw some clips posted on ABC site. Seemed that Charlie is asking questions he would never ask Obama. I’d like to see SOMEONE hammer “The One” about his lack of experience, which seems to just not matter in his case. Why is this only a question the media cares about with Palin, but not Obama?

Ummm watch the Presidential debates in the primaries asswipe?

:rofl:

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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 07:07 PM
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29. Another great one
FLOOD ABC with phone calls. But I am sure it is DU and MOVEON saying how great a job Charlie Gibson did at being a condesending sob! I AM MAD AS HELL and will do everything I can do to get MCCAIN/PALIN elected.

There numbers are busy now.

212-456-7777
800-347-6391



Actually DU and Moveon are saying why wasn't Charlie tougher :rofl:

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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 07:23 PM
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31. they are DELUSIONAL over there... blaming everything but the subject herself
that tells you they know it was unimpressive.

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:02 PM
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33. I like this one, it has the fun the media hates Republicans feel to it. Camera angles and all!
To: waus
Did they only shoot with one camera? I have not seen the entire interview, but I did see an excerpt and it showed no over the shoulder shots (on both sides) and the set up was on her right mainly facing Charlie who was angled toward the camera and the angle of the camera was a subtle placing of him slightly above her and on the dominant right side of the frame.
In essence this all adds up to seeing just a side view of her (we see a whole lot of her calves) and not her eyes, which in the shot I saw is quite objectiving in itself. Whereas Charlie is the main subject in that long shot. Based on just that set up, I am unsure if they have a larger variety of shots in the piece, it doesn't allow us to connect with her or even see her clearly really. Hope they showed more shots than what I saw.

The editing sounds like a hit job as does the interview. Where did people see this thing? It all sounds like a disjointed piece of poo.

78 posted on September 11, 2008 4:04:50 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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Yes GOP Poet, you nailed it, Fellini is weeping from above in agreement, he also would have hated the camera work
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AkFemDem Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:08 PM
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34. This is the thing THEY need to understand about Sarah Palin
She's educated and well spoken on the energy issue, she's comfortable discussing economics (even if I personally disagree with many of her stances on them) but she is CLUELESS about international affairs. Here's the truth we never wanted the lower 48 to know.... we're not really dealing with the Russians up here. Our governor is still held to the same constitutional law as any other and isn't really doing business with the Canadian government. Everything that makes Alaska great- our remoteness, our geographic isolation, our small population- the things so many "small town America" republicans love about Sarah Palin- are the very things that make her CLUELESS about what's going on in the big wide world. Anyone who ever thought she was going to look like someone qualified to potentially be leader of the free world, was fooling themselves, because *SHE ISN'T*!


She can read a good speech, she can use the right voice inflection and smiles, she can get in a good joke. She can't however, fake a knowledge and experience she simply doesn't have.

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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:29 PM
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35. They could accept what they saw and heard,
they could not believe their lying eyes and ears,
thus they claim the interview was "edited".

I don't think she lived up to their expectations.

Frankly, she didn't even live up to my expectations of her.
She didn't know what the Bush Doctrine is.
She thinks that being able to see the Russian coastline from
certain areas of Alaska makes Alaskans experts on Russia.
Yikes. How did she become the Governor of Alaska?
I don't get it.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:54 PM
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37. She struck out swinging, and the freepers want to blame the pitcher.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 08:58 AM
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39. Hey, we even got mentioned!! It won't matter to the diehards how sucky she did. n/t
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Lucy Goosey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:06 AM
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41. Is it just my local cable tv company, or is the ABC sound not synchronized with the lip movements?
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 09:07 AM by Lucy Goosey
"Is it just my local cable tv company, or is the ABC sound not synchronized with the lip movements?"

I loved this comment - they're actually suggesting that ABC dubbed someone else's voice in!

I think it's cognitive dissonance - the "truth" that they believed about Palin the Messiah has been proven false, but they can't accept that, so they have to come up with outlandish alternate explanations.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:28 AM
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42. Making excuses is a clear sign they know it went badly.
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