Strange but True: Certain "Recent " Dem VP picks have all let us down

[kennetha]

Think about it.

John Edwards: turns out to be a narcissistic egomaniac philandering fool. If he had won the nomination, we would have been toast once his affair was uncovered.


Leiberman: Is a turncoat who John McCain clearly wanted to choose for his VP but lost his nerve. No doubt Leiberman would have taken it. If McCain wins, heaven forbid, expect Leiberman to be his Secretary of State. He's got no future whatsoever in a democratic Senate.


Ferraro: Turns into a race-baiting apologist for who knows what. Did Hillary more harm than good in her attacks on Obama and now is doing Obama no favors.

What's up with that and our recent VP choices? Has there ever been anything like this in the annals of political history?

[otohara]

1. You Left Out A Certain Nobel Prize Winner

what's his name?

[Alter Ego]

3. I think he was left out because he was the one who DIDN'T disappoint.

[kennetha]

7. right!

[WinkyDink]

21. The OP says "all". And "recent" seems to go back decades to Mondale/Ferraro.

[YOY]

2. Kindly don't shit on Biden

He's got our back.

[kennetha]

6. Didn't mean any disparagement of Biden

It just occurred to me reading another thread how several of our past VP candidates have sort of turned into embarrassments. Strange, don't you think?

[YOY]

9. Not Al and not Joe.

'Nuff said.

[blm]

4. Edwards wasn't so conflicted when he was the VP nominee. His personal life took a turn

afterwards, and obviously a wrong turn, but his personal failings also came after much turmoil - not excusing it, just understanding it.

[WI_DEM]

5. But not Joe Biden, he's been fantastic on the campaign trail.

[CatsDogsBabies]

8. Why are you always posting such doomsday things?

Gosh, why don't we just sit around and say "we are really crappy." It is really disturbing. McCain picked someone who knows nothing and has no experience and is nasty to boot, and all you can post is this?

[FrenchieCat]

13. Because she doesn't like our nominee.....

or his Veep pick.....and enjoys demoralizing us in everyway possible.

Some people are made that way. They get their joy out of the misery of others.....

[raebrek]

26. Sometimes you have to wade through the misery

to understand what the problem is. Now I don't know that I agree with the OP but I do understand having to wade through the misery to see why it started. As per the saying and I know I will misquote it. "Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It".

Raebrek!!!

[kennetha]

14. This isn't meant to be a doomsday post

It just occurred to me that we've got a strange crew among our recent VP picks. It just occurred to me upon reading the thread about Geraldine not being a democrat. THen I thought - same goes for the turncoat. And then I thought "And what about Edwards."

Strange Crew of past VP candidates we have at this moment in history. Very strange.

[blondeatlast]

17. Yeah, because the rest of us aren't familiar with your posting history or anything.

You have an amazing ability to type with one hand.

[DefenseLawyer]

10. Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man. n/t

[Bluebear]

11. Good thing Biden will be changing all your perceptions, right?

[jillan]

12. Yeah - Obama should've picked Palin.

:crazy:

[RichGirl]

15. If we lived in a sane country...

...a person's personal failings would remain personal and Edwards would have made an excellent VP and/or President.

[knoxvegas08]

36. Not really.

Personal failing aside, he didn't add much to the ticket.

Biden's likeable and qualified, but I really don't know if he'll be able to grab some of the fly-over states Obama needs. Jury's still out.

[blondeatlast]

37. Welcome. Did you bring your boxing gloves? Hope you read a lot before you started posting. nt

[ContinentalOp]

42. But Edward's failing wasn't the affair.

It was running for President after the affair when he should have known full well that a scandal like that would eventually come out. That shows a serious lack of judgement and character.

I consider him to be as bad of a traitor as Lieberman because he knew that if he had won the nomination and the affair came out during the election, our party would have been screwed and he would have handed the election to McCain. Hell, that may actually be worse than Lieberman.

[kennetha]

43. Totally Agree

[blondeatlast]

16. The McCain camp has a Veep who is full of so many political infections

that she shouldn't be allowed outside of the house--and I read this tripe on DU.

Welcome, kennetha, to a VERY exclusive membership society.

[kennetha]

20. This post has nothing to do with Biden or Palin or the current race

I was just struck by reading a post about Ferraro that we actually have two other strange past VP candidates who are of no use to us. ONe is a traitor and one is personally discredited. It's a strange state of affairs.

THis is in no way a comment on Biden or Obama or Palin or anything but the weird fact that three living past VP candidates for our side are, well, deeply problematic.

HAs that every happened to a party in recent memory?

[blondeatlast]

27. Yeah, sure you were.

Don't let Gustav take your infrastructure away; reinforce it NOW.

[NoStinkinBadges]

39. Not that the Republicans have never had strange VP picks?

How about Dan Quayle, Agnew, Nixon, Cheney, to name just a few. Then there is Sarah?

[kennetha]

41. Don't care about Republicans.

That was just one for the "strange but true" file.

[WheelWalker]

18. Why do people here on DU hide their profile? I know less about you

than I do Palin.

[greenman3610]

19. Biden rocks, I would have voted for him in the primary if I could have

[kennetha]

23. I'm not dissing Biden at all

[blondeatlast]

29. then your post doesn't belong in this forum, does it? Ask the mods to move it to GD. I have. nt

[Renew Deal]

22. You're always concerned about what the dems are doing.

Do you ever post anything positive about Obama and the Democratic party?

[scheming daemons]

24. Well then... thank goodness that Obama decided not to repeat the pattern this time...

...not the answer you wanted Kennetha, I'm sure.

:eyes:

[kennetha]

28. this has nothing to do with Biden or Obama or the current race.

I was just struck by a strange state of affairs. You would think that past VP candidates would be party stalwarts. But three of our past VP's are party pariahs. Weird Stuff. NOt a comment on Biden. Not a comment on Obama. Not a plea for Hillary. Not anything of the sort.

[blondeatlast]

33. Then ask the mods to move it to GD, where it belongs. I have. nt

[blogslut]

25. Joe Biden is an amazing pick

Not sure where you're going with your OP.

[kennetha]

Nowhere.

Again, I was struck by this thought in reading a thread about Ferraro and her antics. And it occurred to me that we're in a strange situation with three of our past VP candidates -- and not just with her. She's undermining us. Leiberman is a traitor. And Edwards is personally discredited.

It just strikes me that that is quite a strange situation.

End of observation.

[blondeatlast]

34. I've asked the mods to put this in GD. So should you. nt

[WinkyDink]

30. What, pray, is the point of your post? That Cheney, Quayle, Bush pere, and Agnew were BETTER?

[kennetha]

35. God no

The point is: "Now who would have thought that three living VP, former party stalwarts, could be so useless to us in the current race and environment."

[Alexander]

31. Lloyd Bentsen was a good pick. So were Mondale, Gore and Biden.

All the bad VP choices were picked because the nominee felt like they had to appeal to a certain group.

Ferraro - women

Lieberman - Jews in Florida and people critical of Clinton's behavior

Edwards - Southern white men

The good VP choices were picked regardless of demographics.

No need to cherry-pick.

[SuperTrouper]

38. I agree, Mondale, Gore were fantastic VP 's. Biden is a great pick, too

[kennetha]

40. I agree too

Plus Mondale would have been a good president and Gore a GREAT one. Plus Gore actually won that election.

[blondeatlast]

32. Why is this in GD/P? It belongs in GD, since it's not about the current race as the OP

INSISTS. :eyes:

[yardwork]

44. John McCain is also a narcissistic egomaniac philandering fool, but the media ignores that.

[AlCzervik]

45. some for sure but your daily disparage the democrats posts are tiresome. You're just

too negative for me, i feel bad for you and i hope your attitude and posts don't reflect your daily life.

cya.

[kennetha]

47. I'm sure you'd like me if you got to know me

I'm actually a positive, upbeat fun-loving, life-affirming sort of guy. I just don't go in for illusion and pretense. I prefer hard truths to comforting BS.

[kennetha]

46. Gosh DU can be depressing at times

Everybody reads all sorts of things into the most bland observations. I mean it doesn't take a genius to notice the weirdness of Edwards, Leiberman, and Ferraro. But somehow this is taken by many as an assault on Biden and Obama.

I think it's because so many are on the look out for the slightest departure from group think and happy talk that it's taken away a sense of perspective and objectivity.

But you are still my fellow dems, and I sort of still love you.