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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:59 PM
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ROVE: "Obama Can't Win Against Palin"
Obama Can't Win
Against Palin
By KARL ROVE
September 11, 2008; Page A13

Of all the advantages Gov. Sarah Palin has brought to the GOP ticket, the most important may be that she has gotten into Barack Obama's head. How else to explain Sen. Obama's decision to go one-on-one against "Sarah Barracuda," captain of the Wasilla High state basketball champs?

It's a matchup he'll lose. If Mr. Obama wants to win, he needs to remember he's running against John McCain for president, not Mrs. Palin for vice president.

............

In Mrs. Palin, Mr. Obama faces a political phenomenon who has altered the election's dynamics. Americans have rarely seen someone who immediately connects with large numbers of voters at such a visceral level. Mrs. Palin may be the first vice presidential candidate since Lyndon B. Johnson to change an election's outcome. If Mr. Obama keeps attacking her, the odds of Gov. Palin becoming Vice President Palin increase significantly.

more at:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122108935141721343.html
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:00 PM
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1. Fuck off Karl...
Time to go to jail.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:00 PM
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2. I disagree turdblossom
he can beat BOTH of them.

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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:00 PM
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3. Fuck off Karl

you are not of significance.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:01 PM
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4. Hes Worried
This article makes me smile.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:01 PM
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5. When Obama is sworn in, I hope his first order is to have Rove arrested.
Fuck that sack of pigcrap.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:02 PM
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6. Rove and the rest of the Republican can are pushing "hands off Sarah."
Why? Because anyone that gets a good look at her would be terrified to put her a heartbeat away.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:02 PM
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Now THERE'S and unbiased analyst!!! LOL.. Karl's "math" ???
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:02 PM
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7. This fat pig is in love with his own legend and is now a mere belch.
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 01:02 PM by HughBeaumont
Obama knows who he's running against.

The days of creating your own realities are OVER. There's no brand name "ace in the hole" for you anymore Rove. And we ain't going to take another theft (which is the only way that 1st stage dementia patient and his Alaskan deluded fruitbar will get in the Blight House) lying down, in case you were wondering.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:02 PM
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8. Then its a good thing Obama is running against McBush.
Obama will mop the floor with the GOP. Rove's days of being a kingmaker are at an end. Palin will be remembered as a less effective, Dan Quayle.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:08 PM
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19. Word.
:thumbsup:
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:03 PM
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9. Someone PLEASE arrest this TRAITOR. He needs to be blindfolded and lined against a wall. FUCK HIM.
Rove is the scourge of democracy. He is the Iago to America's better judgment. I so wish to see him behind bars (or more appropriately, given the same justice afforded to the Rosenbergs).

J
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DangerDave921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:17 PM
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28. Dang!
Some serious justice there!

I listen to Rove actually. Anyone who can somehow engineer Bush into office twice must know something about elections.

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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:03 PM
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10. They'd go so far as to promote a simpleton like palin in order to
stay in power. They are shameless.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:03 PM
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11. This from the architect of the collapse of the GOP
.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:04 PM
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12. Why isn't this asshole in jail?
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:14 PM
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26. Indeed.
?
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CatsDogsBabies Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:04 PM
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13. Karl Rove is not God
Isn't he just some pasty middle-aged man? I wouldn't even recognize him in a line-up (sometimes ignorance is bliss). Talk about someone getting under someone's skin.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:04 PM
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14. When Rove gives advice to a Democrat, the Democrat should do the opposite....

Rove is playing mind games.


Maybe rove wants "hands off" of Palin, because he knows she'll crumble?
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:26 PM
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40. VERY TRUE.
No way Karl wants to 'help.'
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:05 PM
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15. "Mrs. Palin, ...a political phenomenon who has altered the election's dynamics"
That's true.The Repukes are looking even more corrupted and ridiculous because of her.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:12 PM
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23. Translation: we've failed to successfully sell the corrupt know-nothing as Vice Presidential materia
Rove is no doubt looking at blistering internals, as people digest the Palin Myth and spit it out like bad cheese.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:05 PM
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16. Poor Karl...



You, the biggest illusion of all, shall be reaping what you have sown in prison, very soon.

Or, if the thumpers have their say, perhaps a public stoning?

Either way, your time is done.

Stick a fork in him folks, he's done!!!





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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:06 PM
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17. He must mean the opposite.
Karl is a psycho and plays head games. Maybe he wants Obama to go after McCain? Palin is the lead horse right now? I think Biden needs to debate lain like she is a 5 year old school girl.
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:08 PM
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18. your days are numbered, Rove............I hear you are going to be subpoenaed
and hopefully, you will land in jail.
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hasssan1 Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:09 PM
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20. I Agree , Forget that bitch and start hitting back mccain. she is no body.Let biden worry about he
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:10 PM
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21. Translation: Obama IS winning against Palin
Karl Rove only knows one mode: Create the reality you wish to see in the face of the reality as it currently is. That's why he had his "Rove numbers" in 2006 - a dismal failure. That's why he always carped about making New Jersey and California competitive (they never were). If Rove even feels the need to come out and say "Obama can't beat palin," it's because he has internals showing precisely the opposite. Obama is kicking the shit out of the palin myth, and Rove is desperately trying to counteract it, as the post-convention polls tank for the GOPers, and Palin is defined as a liar and fraud across the media spectrum. This is Rove in panic mode.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:11 PM
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22. Didn't you guarantee you would pick up seats in 2006 Karl?
Could it be that you don't know what you are talking about?
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:13 PM
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24. GOP to win New Jersey (2004)...We're making it a race in California (2000)
Whenever Roe comes out with statements like this, its because the opposite prevails in the real reality. He's trying to make the Rove reality real. he will fail. Epically.
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ITsec Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:13 PM
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25. As Jon Stewart said...
"Karl Rove has a head like a lump of unbaked bread dough."

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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:15 PM
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27. Lumber back to your jail cell, Karl "the real math" Rove.
You are sooo yesterday.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:18 PM
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29. Turdblossom: "I make millions making shit up."
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:22 PM
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30. Meh. Go fuck yourself, karl. You have ceased to be relevant.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:23 PM
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31. And the GOP held onto the house and senate in 2006.
Sorry Karl, your 15 minutes are up.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:24 PM
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32. Obama has already won.
Puke internal polling must be tanking.

They can't steal Ohio, Dems are counting the votes here now.

Florida just might come around because of Palin the Fundie Anti-Semite.

Karl is toast. He knows it.
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weezie1317 Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:48 PM
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33. Hey may be right in part -- that Obama needs to run against McCain, not Palin.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:50 PM
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34. history shows: candidates who ran against the opposing VP did poorly
we are running against McCain, not Palin
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:57 PM
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35. Palin isn't running for President, Karl
But way to go with supporting the candidate in the top slot. Your confidence in his abilities has been noted. :eyes:
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RollWithIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:58 PM
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36. Did that little maggot just compare Palin to Lyndon B Johnson?
Unbelievable. I'm sure he's still looking at those spreadsheets from 2006.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:28 PM
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41. Ze Party has plans for Gov. Palin: big plans
It's not like McSame will live forever, being OLD.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:18 PM
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37. Herr Rove sucks!!!
A member of the Speakeasy (my home board) made this poster. She is afraid the rethugs will hunt her down. I told her it has to go viral.


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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:24 PM
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38. He does have a point
But I don't think that Mr. Obama has forgotten who he is running against.

Thanks anyway Karl.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:25 PM
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39. He picks 911 for this column
May he burn in hell
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:46 PM
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42. ROVE: Shouldn't this worm be in prison? The time is near, fucknut.
All of these corrupt Repubs are shaking in their boots that they'll be sent to prison for their crimes.
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:48 PM
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43. Political phenoms, as American Idol contestants, burn fast and fall.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:52 PM
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44. He's not running against Sarah Palin, he's running against John McCain.
And Karl is mistaken if he thinks Palin's gotten into Obama's head. He needs to go pay a hooker and get laid.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:52 PM
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45. "If Mr. Obama keeps attacking her"
I missed this the first time - Obama is attacking her?????? ahhhh yes, push the lie he is attacking her.

And.... it's SENATOR OBAMA you shitbag.
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:54 PM
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46. Karl Rove = so 2004
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:08 PM
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47. This from a man whose only success at "winning" elections
is by stealing them. No Dem needs his "strategic" expertise; we all know how to steal, we just refrain from doing so because we have ethics.

Lee Atwater apologized on his deathbed for the all the people he had wronged in politics; this protege of his needs to focus on that thought instead of giving the rest of us political advice.
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