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jerryster Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:04 AM
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I just spoke to someone in Rahm Emanuel's office...
about the campaign. A staffer answered the phone at 202-225-4061.

I told the staffer that I consider Emanuel to be the toughest Dem in Congress and the one who was most responsible for our regaining the House and Senate in 2006. I told him that not only does the Obama camp need to utilize him more, but that Emanuel needs to have a private meeting with Obama and his staff and kick some ass and take some names. Yes, those are the exact words I used.

I also told the staffer that the Obama campaign is floundering and that I can't bear the thought of another 4 years of Republicanism.

So, DUers, I am asking you to call Emanuel's office yourselves. If his office gets a substantial number of calls maybe he'll help shake things up. If Obama becomes President then Emanuel will address him in the proper tone. For now, though, Emanuel should meet with him and his campaign staff and ask them WHAT THE FUCK THEY'RE DOING!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:06 AM
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1. Just stop it, please. Rahm is not well liked by many.
Just stop the panicking.
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jerryster Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:37 AM
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16. Not well liked?! Who cares?
I'm not suggesting that Obama step aside and have Rahm run for President. I'm saying that Rahm knows how to win elections. He actually helped win a bunch of them in 2006.

As far as panicking, yea, a little bit. I admit it.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:48 AM
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29. He is well liked enough to be elected Chairman of the Democratic Caucus in the House
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:07 AM
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2. You give Emanuel a lot more credit than I do. And try to relax;
Obama is doing fine, but your concern is noted.
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jerryster Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:49 AM
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30. Doing fine? Here's alink to an article by Howard Fineman.
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NikolaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:24 AM
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46. Why Are You Quoting Fineman?
He is a Pug of the lowest order.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:27 AM
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48. I don't believe a goddamned thing Howard Fineman writes.
I believe he just makes up shit as he writes.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:31 AM
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52. I don't have much use for Fineman either, but have at it. Worry away. nt
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jerryster Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:50 AM
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31. Doing fine? Here's a link to an article by Howard Fineman.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:03 AM
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36. fineman is a RW tool.... are you huffing paint thinner?
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 03:41 PM
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62. Given the shit the OP is trying to sell, sounds like he's been huffing jenkem.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 04:47 PM
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65. indeed
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:09 AM
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3. Rahm Emmanuel??? The same arrogant prick who thought Dean was not doing a good job?
No thank you. I detest that man and am creeped out that he is a Democrat. Eww. Obama is doing fine and was just attacking the last two days. He is not floundering, we are essentially tied.
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jerryster Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:34 AM
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15. Yes, that one.
The one Dem who does not do cowering in the face of Repub tactics. And yes, he was more responsible than Dean for victories in 2006.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:14 AM
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39. That is not true....
Let me find my ammo and be back at you soon.
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NikolaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:25 AM
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47. No, he doesn't cower
he just sides with them from time to time. Puleeze!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:12 PM
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58. !
:spray:

That's a good one!
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jerryster Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:41 AM
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19. One more thing.
You said we are essentially tied. That is my point as well. If it's essentially tied, then Obama's numbers have been moving in the wrong direction. I know there's time, but it runs out quickly. And if we lose Ohio and Michigan on Nov 4, it's over. There are problems in Obama's campaign and they need to be addressed NOW, not on Nov 5 and then for the next 4 years.
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jerryster Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:51 AM
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32. Link to article by Howard Fineman
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:20 AM
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43. Seems Nobody Is Listening To Fineman Article... But Fineman IS ON THE
side of Obama, and I for one feel he's on to something. This election seems to be going SOUTH "big time" and I used that as a metaphor! But living in the South, there is something even more distressing. From last night to this morning, two friends of ours said THEY won't for a BLACK MAN!!

My comment was... "I'm surprised you didn't say "nigger" because as far as I'm concerned THAT'S what you really mean. Both said they were trying to be nice knowing how I feel! That's as far as the conversation would go no matter WHAT I said! No talking issues, no trying to get them to SEE what's happening in this country.... JUST HE'S A BLACK MAN!! All the while complaining about "outsourced" jobs and all the rest! One couple has ALL three of their girls living back home with them, one who is UNMARRIED with a baby!! PROVE ME WRONG!!!

And if ANYONE thinks we can WAIT for the debates to make the difference, THINK AGAIN!! McLoonery & Falin Palin are WINNING by keeping Americans distracted by the pettiness of LIPSTICK & whose a PIG!!

I've said it many, many, many times, even said it BEFORE Obama got the nomination that many in the south would react this way! PROVE ME WRONG, JUST PROVE ME WRONG!! Talking with other Democrats this AM in my housing area AND, who will be putting yard signs up, MOST think Obama is going to lose!! These are SERIOUS, STRONG DEMOCRATS who are VERY WORRIED!! I live in a RED county, but my small community has a fair amount of Democrats, which is UNUSUAL!

Of course WE will vote because we DO vote, but we're worried that the younger generation is beginning to tune this out! Now, Fineman is saying exactly what many of us feel. It's GREAT if you can be above the fray, but UNFORTUNATELY... it doesn't seem to EVER work! Repukes LOVE to "fuzz" things up and I fear all those young enthusiastic supporters who have never been through campaigns before just won't stick it out!!! PROVE ME WRONG!!!

And NO... I didn't support either Obama or Clinton during the Primaries, so it isn't that I'm defending Clinton or that I'm a PUMA!

:nuke: :puke: :mad: AND :wtf:
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:22 AM
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44. Oh, Forgot Something... Rahm Is TOO DLC & FWIW I Think He May Do MORE
harm than GOOD! Pick someone else...
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Liberal Dose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:09 AM
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4. Rahm is a DLC douche. nt
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:09 AM
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5. The campaign has already hinted that they're waiting until after today
before they get tough on it all. And today will serve as a jolted reminder to those that forget how miserably the bush admin failed us all.
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jerryster Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:43 AM
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23. That's fine.
But how hard will they hit? I'm sure a lot of DUers listen to Ed Schultz and he has taken a back seat to no one in criticizing Obama's campaign for passivity.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:11 PM
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57. Much as l enjoy big ed
He is as full of bluster and has to come up with things to talk about as much as anyone else on the talk circuit.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:10 AM
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6. Baloney - We won in 2006 because Dean worked since early 2005 to rebuild party infrastructure
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 10:11 AM by blm
in those many states that previous party chairs had let collapse since the mid90s.

Left to the Clinton-loyalist party chairs of the past, 2006 would have seen massive election fraud and vote-stealing, just as we had in 2000, 2002 and 2004.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:11 AM
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8. And Rahm then cussed Dean out in Dean's office...
because he doesn't like the 50 state plan.

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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:33 AM
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14. Exactly. In 2006, Rahm was in with Carville and his ilk...
...who immediately began "blaiming" Dean for the Dem wins in 2006, complaining that the wins weren't big enough! Yeah, like the Dems ever accomplished anything like that when their buddy McAuliffe was running the DNC!
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:10 AM
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7. Thanks for your concern, Mister keyboard baddass!!
That's about 6 we have onboard today....
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:12 AM
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9. How's the view from the cheap seats? nt
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:13 AM
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10. Obamas campaign isnt floundering.... YOU are.
Get a hold of yourself already. WTF?! :nuke:
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:29 AM
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12. No shit....
WTF?
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:19 AM
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11. Don't you think these people have things to do?
Let them get their work done, for crying out loud.

We get all these panicky people coming into our campaign headquarters, wanting to tell us, and for us to tell Obama, what needs to be done. And you know what the result is? WE STOP WORKING ON THE ELECTION WHILE THEY ARE TALKING TO US.

Let the campaigns campaign. You want to call someone and tell them how scared you are of a McCain victory? Call an undecided voter.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:38 AM
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17. Rahm is a douchbag...
and one of the reasons we have a bunch of corporate-fucking Blue Dogs in Congress right now.

Fuck him sideways.
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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:39 AM
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18. Um. Howard Dean was the one responsible for our 2006 victories.
Not Emanuel. if Rahm Emanuel had his way, we'd basically still be outgunned because we would still be fighting over the same states rather than the 50 States that Dean was pushing for.
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:42 AM
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20. Emanuel
I've got nothing to support him. He should quit his tough guy act and get on with helping his party instead of all his divisiveness. As you might have noticed, I come down on the side of the anti DLCers.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:42 AM
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21. I hope he gets zero more calls. n/m
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:42 AM
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22. You called his House of Rep. Office to discuss campaign matters?
WTF? Those are two separate entities that need to REMAIN separate.

You call the offices in D.C. to discuss matters of legislation.

You call campaign HQ to discuss matters of the campaign.

Otherwise you are wasting your (and his staff's) time.

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jerryster Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:46 AM
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26. Damn right I did. n/t
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:52 AM
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33. In that case...
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:56 AM
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34. Okay...let me try to explain this.
There is a law against use of congressional resources, offices and personnel to campaign, directly or indirectly...the staffer you talked to can't even pass on your sentiments to Congressman Emmanuel. Yeah...really. Please stop wasting those staffers' time...they're underpaid and overworked and more than that...we're the ones paying them and your stunt wasted 2 minutes of his/her day that could have been spent doing actual work for the American people.

Next time...call the campaign office. :banghead:
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:24 AM
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45. So you are encouraging the head of the DCCC to violate campaign ethics laws
so YOU can bitch and moan?

Brillant :thumbsup:

:banghead:

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:27 AM
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49. Oh, I think it is brilliant--if the OP is working for the other side.
Which of course it isn't. Of course it isn't. Is it?
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:32 AM
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54. You are correct...IT...isn't brilliant
:rofl:

but hey, I'm sure Emmanuel's Cong. office staff is loving this x( - most folks that move from campaign work to constituency work (at least the ones I've talked to) don't really want to go back)....

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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:44 AM
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24. Well, Rahm Emanuel is a DLC'er and he's not tough so I don't think much of your judgement.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:45 AM
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25. Rahm Emmanuel nearlyb blew it in 2006
NEarly every hand picked Emmanuel canidate lost that election.

Give me a fucking break. Emmanuel is a tool.
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:47 AM
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27. Call Obama's campaign office directly if you want to tell him something
The number is (866) 675-2008.


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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:29 AM
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50. THANK YOU!!
:hi:
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 04:44 PM
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64. I got the number from another DUer, but I can't remember who
You can also email Obama at his website, but phone calls are always best if you can get through.
:hi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgF39TRCPPE&eurl=http://www.jedreport.com/2008/07/obamas-not-quit.html
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:47 AM
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28. CALL RAHM!!1111 RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!111!!! Okay--he's a ratfucker. What else can we call him? nt
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:01 AM
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35. Rahm is a DLC shitbag tool. Your OP is a steaming pile of shit.
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monomach Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:04 AM
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37. Yes, this.
AGREE DO I!
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:08 AM
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38. well, i abhor being blunt but sometimes it is needed...
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 11:08 AM by dionysus
;)
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 03:40 PM
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61. Agreed 100%. All pro-DLC posts here should be viewed as suspect.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:14 AM
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40. "Obama campaign is floundering?????"
a two or three day dip to merely tied on the heels of the gop convention does not constitute a flounder

also an excellent analysis regarding polling procedures oversampling the republican vote is available by link here

I wasn't concerned enough to go look but if you're motivated, I'm sure you'll find it
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:18 AM
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41. Can't let go of the primaries, eh?
Psst, there's a new sheriff in town.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:19 AM
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42. the whole op is stupid. n/t
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:30 AM
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51. Worst idea ever?
I can think of about 1001 better ways of helping to defeat John McCain.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:32 AM
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53. LOL now Rahm is the savior du jour. Yesterday it was Bill Clinton.
You see, Barack Obama is a little boy who needs Big Daddy to show him the way.

Definitely seems to be a theme going on with certain posters.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:36 AM
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55. I Don't Really Think Rahm LIKES Howard Dean... Jealousy Or Something!!! n/t
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:04 PM
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56. No one person "took back the House and Senate"
You can't give him any credit for the Senate as he did nothing for the Senate - as his JOB was to head the effort in the House.

If the only person who did anything for the House was Emmanuel, we likely wouldn't have the majority we do. Dean supported many candidates in areas where they were not likely to win. Kerry targeted districts that the DCCC wasn't involved with and was a huge supporter of veterans running (as was Clark) There were others as well. Had it not been for these other people, when the tide turned faster than expected, there would have been no candidates already running and having the money to compete.

Other than his own campaigns, I don't think Emmanuel was involved in running campaigns. Obama has more experience at this point on running.

Your post is stunning in its arrogance.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:16 PM
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59. The DCCC & DLC need to get with the program.
Quit making power plays, and patch things up with Dean & the DNC.

That would be my message to Emanuel.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:46 PM
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60. If you really "can't bear the thought of another 4 years of Republicanism"
call Howard Dean and tell him to "kick ass and take names". Don't expect the DLC to help you.
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 03:46 PM
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63. Good way to waste dems time, don't you think? n/t
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