Hillary Defends Obama on Lipstick Comment.

[Joanne98]

by TomP, Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 06:29:29 PM EST

I think folks here will like this story, since many Clinton supporters were at MyDD during the primaries and so many of them have become strong supporters of Barack Obama now:


At a Capitol Hill news conference today, Hillary Clinton defended Obama's "lipstick on a pig" comment, accusing McCain of using the controversy to distract from substantive issues in the campaign.

"Barack has made this clear," she said responding to a question about the lipstick remark, which Republicans have condemned as a "disgraceful" and "sexist" attack on Palin. "It was no way meant as an affront."

During the press conference, which addressed equal pay for women, Clinton added that "Republicans need to lift up the dialogue" and blamed McCain's campaign for trying to "divert attention away from challenges facing Americans."


http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2 008/09/10/1375540.aspx


http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/9/10/182929/942

[ruggerson]

1. it must be a mistake

I've been told here so many times that she is gunning for '12.

[DevonRex]

5. Give it a rest. Everybody but you HAS given it a rest. Enough

is enough.

If you took the time to look around there are LOTS of positive Hillary posts, including the one you just stepped on.

[ruggerson]

25. really?

I see it here every day. It's sad and pathetic, but continuous.

[DevonRex]

26. Obviously you like to create chaos. But I certainly don't have to

read it. Buh bye.

[ruggerson]

28. Obviously you don't like living in reality

which is your choice. Reality is far less chaotic, btw.

[glancingthefuture]

57. Thank you Hillary for helping Sen. Obama. REC

[LostinVA]

58. You're not blind, Rugs

I agree.

[jesus_of_suburbia]

38. Oh please. There are plenty of Hillary haters still here who still cause trouble given the chance.

[DevonRex]

41. Thanks for piping up. However, I will not be able to reply to you

after this.

[alcibiades_mystery]

8. I recall that we were going to survey the press reaction today

Wasn't that your plan last night?

let me guess. It's been a disaster for Obama?

[DevonRex]

10. Good one.

[ruggerson]

27. What does that have to do with this thread?

And, I've actually written OP's telling people to chill when they've gone overboard on the gloom and doom. Guess you've conveniently missed them.

[alcibiades_mystery]

30. I don't really follow your collected works

So I replied because I remembered your caution to wait and see last night.

My apologies for disrupting your point here.

[ruggerson]

35. That's all right

I wouldn't have expected anything less.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6919957

That's for starters. Maybe I can get off your "to be harrassed" list now.

[alcibiades_mystery]

43. Wow

Your weirdly high opinion of yourself notwithstanding, thanks for the link.

[ruggerson]

44. dude

I'm not the one who initiated any dialogue with you. You did with me. Both last night and tonight, replete with bizarre, confused hostility because I tossed out some ideas about things Joe Biden should say re: Palin, things that I still think he should say. It's almost as if you're seeking people out to insult them.

[alcibiades_mystery]

45. I saw your post here

I remembered our conversation from last night, during which you explicitly noted that we'd have to wait and see. It's not that complicated.

The way you're building this up is just spooky and embarrassing, so I'll leave you to it.

[ruggerson]

47. "let me guess. It's been a disaster for Obama."

Your very first remarks to me in this thread.

Had you said something adult, interesting and non confrontational, maybe someone would buy your faux innocence.

[alcibiades_mystery]

48. Nobody cares

Have fun.

[ruggerson]

49. believe me

I am.

[Lerkfish]

14. or, you could just accept that people appreciate what she's done without

getting all snarky about it.

I think she's doing a good thing.

you can attack me for saying so, but isn't that counterproductive to your goal of having people appreciate her more? If everyone time someone DOES appreciate her, you dredge up past acrimony, what are you really trying to accomplish?


think about it.

[DevonRex]

23. Exactly. I'm wondering the same thing. And after a while there's

only one answer.

[ruggerson]

29. That you

make snide assumptions about people that aren't true?

[ruggerson]

33. Everytime?

Really? She's barely on my radar screen, other than I admired her convention speech and her living up to her word, as many of us expected she would. I didn't even support her for Veep. But recently there have been a rash of the usual suspects posting their divisive garbage. If you think she's doing a good thing, then more power to you, the remark wasn't meant for you.

I don't care if "people appreciate her more." Not my job nor my concern. SOme of you seem a little whacked about the subject.

[Lerkfish]

50. maybe you should reread your own post.

[scheming daemons]

52. ruggerson, why are you shitting on a pro-Hillary post?

I don't get it.

You'd be hard-pressed to find any anti-Hillary OPs in GD: P since Denver.

Why are you trying to stir shit again?

[Lerkfish]

53. exactly my question, further up.

why stir up shit when it wasn't there?

[Solomon]

55. Because some Hillary people are wanting Obama to lose and can't

wait to rub in everybody's faces how we picked the wrong candidate and how he should have picked Hillary.

It's like waiting for Christmas. They want their present now. So every poll is like shaking the box hoping to figure out what's in there.

[flamingdem]

62. Real Hillary supporters are now Obama supporters, the rest are GOP Moles

[glancingthefuture]

56. The mistake is you trying to stir up shit.

[Honeycombe8]

63. I've not been a Hillary supporter & was really PO'd at her during the primary. But come on....

she did a good thing. Her answer was matter of fact, professional, dignified, supportive, and was the type of answer that contrasted with Sarah-Get-Your-Guns-Palin. A REAL woman politician and leader vs. a novice smartass.

A stronger answer would've seemed too combative. Don't want to get down in the mud and waller WITH the pigs, you know.

[pinkpops]

2. Here's Hillary with a message that could apply to Palin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHTdONeRmEA

She was directing this to Obama at the time, but Palin should hear it too

[AtomicKitten]

3. It would be helpful if surrogates reiterated Obama was talking about the Bush-McBush policies.

Not only does it make crystal clear what he was talking about, it's another opportunity to take the same shot at the GOP.

[DevonRex]

37. Great point. nt

[theothersnippywshrub]

51. Exactly. Palin is the lipstick. McCain's stance on the issues is the pig. n/t

[cloud75]

4. Hillary a class act....Obama took the "fantasy" comment out of

context during the primary when Bill was campaigning for Hillary. He (Obama) used the "fantasy" comment to his advantage now the "lipsick" comment is being used in the same way against him. And everyone has got their panties in a wad.

[DevonRex]

6. Enough of hte primary bullshit.

[JuniperLea]

22. Oh, the irony...

:eyes:

[DevonRex]

24. So, you WANT a good thread about Hillary to degenerate into

primary wars?

Edited to say that I now have you on ignore, along with the other primary war people.

[JuniperLea]

31. That's what I get for taking you OFF my ignore list...

I just cleared it recently.

I've not said one thing in relation to the primary in weeks... but I do remember your hatred... so ignore away, and thanks for playing Wheel of Hypocrites!

[alcibiades_mystery]

9. Lesson: Obama is much better at playing this game than others

:shrug:

[AtomicKitten]

11. Not true. In fact, Clinton accused the press, not the Obama camp.

http://themoderatevoice.com/media/16949/bill-clinton-accuses-press-of-helping-create-obama-fantasy/

Continuing to purposely misstate facts is stirring up shit any way you slice it.

[DevonRex]

12. Between the ones wanting to start primary war bullshit and the

out and out trolls, I'm getting totally pissed off in here today. WTF are they doing?

At least the trolls are easy to spot and therefore don't create so much havoc.

[cloud75]

15. I still got a lot of shit to get off my chest that's what I'm doing here.

[DevonRex]

17. I said "what the fuck are they doing" not "doing here."

[AtomicKitten]

19. Another example of purposeful distortion of facts to feed the bitterness.

[DevonRex]

20. Yep. Is there a full moon or something tonight? Today is just

totally bizarre, isn't it?

[AtomicKitten]

21. Yep, it's a chaotic crazy day today.

[ruggerson]

40. The one you're responding to

is one of the prime examples proving our point and disproving yours.

[AtomicKitten]

46. "The One" responds: Let it go, big boy.

I had to step away to refocus what I wanted to say to you. I realized I am pissed off, but it's not at you or other former Clinton supporters that haven't quite let it go. Hey, I feel your pain. I was gently spanked by DU and voluntarily took some time off to refocus.

There is so much shit flying, so much emotion erupting over finally realizing this is it. This is our shot at the White House and a filibuster-proof Senate. That's all I care about. I mean that and a half.

I have had a remarkable journey here at DU from Clinton Sycophant to Clinton Hater (those titles assigned to me). Here's where I really stand. I will speak the truth about them without fear and I won't be shamed for it. I am most often met with an onslaught of trashing the source, calling me a hater, and, well, pretty much everything including the kitchen sink, everything except the meat of the matter. The point. I don't like that. I am entitled to like or dislike whatever I want. That's not a crime. And I'm entitled to post where I'm coming from within DU guidelines without being slammed for it.

I am completely immersed in this election. Barack and Joe are our hope for change. After these long-ass eight years, that is what matters. It's the only thing that matters.

Peace. Please.

[Lerkfish]

54. excellent post

kudos

[AtomicKitten]

59. hey

thanks

[rebel with a cause]

36. Obama took the comment out of context?

The way I remember it, I was watching tv when the comment was made and the people that said it was racist was the news media. I never heard Obama say anything about it personally.

And like others are saying. If you want people to forget what went on in the primary, then I would advise you to drop it. If you want to keep trying to bad mouth Barack for your own purposes, then you can just keep on keeping on and see what happens. :shrug:

[DevonRex]

39. You're my hero. :)

[rebel with a cause]

42. thank you.

:pals:

[darius15]

7. Thanks Hill!

I just wish she would attack Palin. THAT would be something.

[Arkansas Granny]

16. The media would like nothing better, but it would further distract from the issues.

Hillary is playing this just right and showing herself to be the seasoned politician that she is.

[DevonRex]

32. I agree completely. And the contrast between Hillary and Palin

is so stark that Hillary doesn't need to attack her.

[Name removed]

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[DevonRex]

18. Good job Hillary. nt

[babylonsister]

34. Rec'd! Thank you, Senator Clinton! nt

[Jennicut]

60. I did not support Hillary during the primaries but she is being gracious and helpful now

Thank You Hillary! I hope she will be continue to be a strong voice in the Senate. Is that good enough for you Ruggerson?

[Honeycombe8]

61. Yaaaaaay, Hillary! Keeping it straight, matter of fact, supportive, on point! Superb. nt