MSNBC Poll: Do you think Obama went too far with his "lipstick on a pig"

[cali]

remark? Fucked up poll that bashes Obama either way. I voted despite that. First online poll I've ever voted in.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26637798/

[BeyondGeography]

1. 61-37 in favor of the good guy

I just voted, too. Whatever.

[bdamomma]

2. oh what BS

another stupid distraction.

[nc4bo]

3. Very fucked up poll. It's a trap. I like the I don't know option best. nt

edit to change from not sure.

[GreenPartyVoter]

40. It's a push poll for sure. Either way it gives credence to Obama calling

Palin a pig, when he did no such thing.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. What A Messed Up , Loaded Question

The premise is that Obama called Palin a pig which he never did...

[monmouth]

5. 61 - 37% now, in Obama's favor. 61% do not think he went too far..n/t

[BOSSHOG]

6. Did abstinence only get palin's daughter pregnant??

What MSNBC is "too far" pray tell? Hell sarah's a kick ass, gun toting motherfucker, just ask her. She can't take that??

[rosesaylavee]

7. Done

Why do people mark 'I don't know?'

Do you think Sen. Barack Obama went too far with his 'lipstick on a pig' remark? * 18151 responses

Yes, he has crossed the line this time.
37%

No, this is just part of the rough-and-tumble of political campaigning.
61%

I don't know.
1.4%

[nc4bo]

13. Voting yes is an admission. Voting no is an admission. Both admit that Obama was slamming Palin

At least that's my take on the matter.

[DangerousRhythm]

8. They SERIOUSLY pissed me off this morning.

I wrote them a scathing email. Even if they don't read it, I needed the release before I punched something, y'know?

[MorningGlow]

9. Ah, that ol' 31% base

sticking with McCain the way they stuck with Georgie. O, the outrage!
:rofl:

[YOY]

44. I just imagine Cletus the wife beating Yokel feigning outrage.

It's emmy award winning.

[Waiting For Everyman]

10. Thanks, cali.

[lamp_shade]

11. done

[Oceansaway]

12. ...

Do you think Sen. Barack Obama went too far with his 'lipstick on a pig' remark? * 19612 responses

Yes, he has crossed the line this time.
38%

No, this is just part of the rough-and-tumble of political campaigning.
61%

I don't know.
1.4%

[C_U_L8R]

14. 38% don't understand metaphor?

Or is it that 38% unaidedly ASSUMED that the pig in question must be Palin.
Seems like an awful lot of people on her side think their pigmalion is actually a pig.
OINK.

[Virginia Dare]

15. More faux outrage..

as Obama said, turning a big campaign into little things. McPOW and Princess Barracuda need to get over themselves.

[NewJeffCT]

16. Even the "no" answer is loaded

it's a rough & tumble world? WTF? How about the charge is a fucking lie?

[CTyankee]

19. I don't think so, Jeff. I took the remark in the context of what he said.

And saying that McCain was just dressing up old policies and trying to palm them off as new is like putting lipstick on a pig. To me, it is a perfectly apt way to describe what McCain/Palin are doing. That, too, can be considered "rough and tumble."

[NewJeffCT]

28. that's small compared to saying it was outrageous sexism

from Obama.

[CTyankee]

31. Absolutely. But they're desperate, will say anything. n/t

[angstlessk]

21. eggzactly what I thought...had nothing to do with 'rough and tumble'

it has been used so much it is called a 'cliche'..which means an overused saying...OVERFUCKINGUSED MSM...not aimed at some scardy little girl from alaska!!!!

[Hope And Change]

17. Done!K & R!

Do you think Sen. Barack Obama went too far with his 'lipstick on a pig' remark?

* 20670 responses


Yes, he has crossed the line this time.
38%

No, this is just part of the rough-and-tumble of political campaigning.
61%

I don't know.
1.4%


Not a scientific survey.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3704453/">Click to learn more. Results may not total 100% due to rounding.

[glowing]

18. This is sooo freaking stupid... Lipstick on the Pig.. Does not mean just Palin

It means the entire kinds of Palins and McCains and whatever... So many Pugs have used the experession.. Wonder if people are feeling like idiots for even swooning in their direction.

[truebrit71]

20. Wow...that is a fucked up poll question...

....

[bushisanidiot]

22. There was no good answer because the MSM and McCondo took the comment out of context!!

why the FUCK aren't the MSM going after Palin's scandals?

why the FUCK aren't the MSM hitting McCondo on all his houses?

the MSM is clearly receiving talking points from Rove.

it is so fucking obvious!!

[me b zola]

23. done

Do you think Sen. Barack Obama went too far with his 'lipstick on a pig' remark? * 21021 responses

Yes, he has crossed the line this time...38%

No, this is just part of the rough-and-tumble of political campaigning...61%

I don't know...1.4%

~~~*~~~

Where is the choice for McCain is a big whiny baby?

[NightHawk63]

24. Just voted...61 - 38 good guys (nt)

[Douglas Carpenter]

25. voted!!!

[Zombie2]

26. Done.

Loaded question is right...

What assbags!

[Brotherjohn]

27. Other: The MSM is wasting our time... again. (nt)

[annarbor]

29. Done

[tomg]

30. While I completely agree with the stupidity of the

question, it gives us some pretty solid information. To whit: This is the game. Obama didn't foul. Why is she complaining. Implicit in the numbers: people think that maybe she doesn't have what it takes to be in the bigs and she should be sent back down to the minors. Remember his response to attacks: "I've been called worse things on a basketball court."

With that said, everything said about the poll being crap, I agree with.

[azmouse]

32. done

[President_Obama]

33. the American people know pigs when they see them, and there is no shame in calling a pig a pig

[backscatter712]

34. "Has Senator Obama stopped beating his wife yet?"

Fucking fascist media. :mad:

Too bad they didn't include a Mu option.

(Mu, among other things, is the correct answer to the loaded question "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?" In that context, mu means "Your question cannot be answered because it depends on incorrect assumptions.")

[Iwillnevergiveup]

35. 120,00 plus

64% NO

35% YES

[Shine]

36. I voted in it......but ultimately this is exactly the sort of "catnip" that Obama refers to

the media eat this shit up! :eyes: The drama! The angst! The passion!

:swoon:


:crazy:

[ContinentalOp]

37. WTF? "rough and tumble of political campainging"

yeah, or he was using a perfectly innocuous, common expression. Where's the poll "Do you think the McCain campaign is being overly sensitive?"

[ananda]

38. 65% now say no.

Good

[Debi]

39. Did McCain back when he said it about Sen. Clinton's health care plan?

:crazy:

Obama didn't attack Palin - but don't tell the MSM - they're too busy peeing in their pants on this one :puke:

[jenmito]

41. Wow-what choices! No choice for, "No. He was talking about McCain-not Palin."

WTH is with the "no" having the reason being, "this is just part of the rough-and-tumble of political campaigning"?

[alcibiades_mystery]

42. 64% no with 122,000 votes: GOP in panic mode as phony outrage backfires badly

Mccain campaign increasingly unhinged, with the convention bounce evaporated, and palin being exposed as a liar and a fraud.

Obama played them.

[AtomicKitten]

43. What a monster pile of crap framing this like it had anything to do with Palin.

Oy. :eyes:

FU MSM

[chill_wind]

49. Right!

[Pacifist Patriot]

45. The comments regarding the poll are interesting to read.

[wiggs]

46. How much time did they spend on the "uppity" remark that was not a

manufactured issue?

[question everything]

47. They did not have "hell no!" still, no is 67% (nt)

[CitizenPatriot]

48. My letter to MSNBC

Hi everyone,

With all due respect, your vote re:" Did Obama go too far with the lipstick on a pig comment" is completely misleading. As you WELL know, Obama wasn't referring to Palin when he said this. Do you guys not watch the entire clips anymore before you report? I know you are not that careless, so what is this vote about? It assumes he made the remark about her and then asks if it went too far. That is an utter failure in logic, as your premise has been debunked by the facts.

Why aren't you asking the more serious question of whether McCain's attack on Obama's child welfare law to protect children from child molesters is fair? In his ad, McCain says Obama is teaching sex-ed to kindergarteners. Is that a fair and accurate assessment of the bill?

Or how about a vote about whether the judge was right when he told Palin to stop abusing a child by slandering and harassing the child's father?

Those are far more serious issues. It is a real shame that once again, we have media complicity in turning this into an idiocracy instead of a democracy.

I remain ever hopeful that our media will begin to re-establish their credibility after the last 8 years of flat out propaganda. And I say this with all due respect, as I am sure it is difficult to compete with the pandering and appeasement of Fox and even CNN.

Here's hoping the American people wise up and take this election seriously. It seems to me as if the fate of the world rests upon this one, so I don't find hysteria over distractions which are clearly deliberate dodging of the issues amusing in the least. I'm sure you have many anchors and journalists on board who agree with me on that and feel humiliated by having to pander to this nonsense.

I wish you all the best in your quest for journalistic integrity, as I am quite sure one day we will look back on these days with a vivid awareness of how the media was complicit in the ruination of this great country. I don't mean this as a jab at MSNBC, but more as a sad comment on the state of our democracy, which depends upon an informed electorate and free press to thrive. I am aware that MSNBC is the only cable news channel offering any sort of digging and vetting of the candidates at this point. I do wish you would live up to those intentions, as you stand out from the crowd as a beacon of sanity right now.

Thank you for your time,