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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:06 AM Original message |
I'm just gonna say it: We still live in a racist culture. |
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BklynChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
1. obviously. who's pretending we don't. |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #1 |
41. Are you kidding, with all the racism deniers around here. For months |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. +1 |
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okieinpain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #41 |
75. +2 |
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the_real_38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #41 |
78. Obama was leading in the polls a week ago ... |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #1 |
42. Check out post #18 for starters |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
2. Agreed, but I also think it's gotten a lot better. The youth give me hope, |
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Bubbha Jo (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
24. As long as people are still alive that grew up before |
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okieinpain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
76. yes young people do deal with race a lot better. so I guess it's |
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Curtland1015 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
3. We live on a racist PLANET. But try not to worry too much. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
4. We do, but we will prevail. |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
5. yes.... and it's obvious |
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qwlauren35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #5 |
54. Cracks in the Ceiling, actually! |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
6. THIS is why we must get out there and do face to face contact to get votes as well as |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
7. The fact that the same people who were supposedly disturbed by |
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nam78_two (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #7 |
63. Bingo |
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Frances (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
8. But racism does not explain it all |
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Sensitivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
9. Give the Rethugs some credit: They made transformative move and delivered effective propaganda |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
10. Yeah, we do, and we fool ourselves into thinking we don't |
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Boz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
11. That has been the tough part in discussing Michigan |
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wvbygod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #11 |
27. That's it? No evidence, data or facts to back it up? |
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Boz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Obviously its a generalization, but stereotypes are based in reality. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #31 |
53. Not based on fact though; John Kerry won Michigan by only **3 points** in 2004. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #31 |
56. LOL on using "stereotypes are based in reality" to decry racism, btw! |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. I don't think region in general has anything to do with it any more... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #11 |
52. That's dumb; Michigan has the WORST economy in the nation, and Obama has not focused on it. |
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Courtesy Flush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
12. Is anyone denying this? |
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wvbygod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #12 |
30. Is anyone proving it? |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
13. sure, that is a given fact. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:23 AM Response to Reply #13 |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:31 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. what a steaming pile of shit. take it back to freeperville. |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. They can't help themselves |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. I don't get it... |
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wvbygod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #20 |
37. numerous voters in Appalachia |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #37 |
48. *sigh* We've gone over this before |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Yeah, OK. The rural counties that Obama lost to Hillary 20-80 in states |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #16 |
45. I hope you enjoy your stay! |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #16 |
55. Thank you for so brilliantly illustrating the OP's point. You have deftly portrayed the racism and |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
14. Of course we do |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
15. well, duh. and sexist. and it has escalated upward the last decade instead |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
17. yes but progress is happening |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
18. Boo Fucking Hoo |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Um, ok |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Huh? |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #18 |
29. Let me guess, you must be white. nt |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Exactly |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #29 |
35. None of your god damned business |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Re-read the OP please |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #35 |
47. I think we WILL win...but not by pretending that racism isn't a very LARGE issue in this election. n |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #18 |
46. You're white, aren't you? n/t |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
19. Yup |
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protect our future (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
21. I totally agree. n/t |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
34. You are 100% |
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fed_up_mother (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
36. The "Muslim" charge greatly exacerbates any latent racism |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #36 |
49. The Muslim charge is a cover for closet racism. |
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fed_up_mother (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. I KNOW people who have adopted |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #49 |
59. Damn Straight. That's it right there! n/t |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:57 AM Response to Reply #36 |
62. I agree with you that the hatred of muslims is there... |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
38. Being a Democrat in the USA is by far the biggest obstacle |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
39. Sure, racism is a factor (not the only one, though). |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
43. I never doubted it for a second, america's dark secret is no longer so secret... |
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Raffi Ella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
50. When Hillary said this y'all called HER a racist but now? |
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SeaLyons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #50 |
57. Bravo!!! n/t |
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abbiehoff (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #50 |
61. I didn't see any whining. |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #50 |
66. Question |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #50 |
67. yes |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #50 |
68. Hillary was using that fact as a reason NOT to have Obama as the nominee. |
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SeaLyons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. No, you're wrong,,, |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. No, I'm not wrong. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #50 |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. Calling someone a bitch while defending someone else from being called a racist makes my head hurt. |
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elkston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #50 |
71. The problem is, what can he do? He is born black. He cannot change that. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
58. If racism is the excuse this time, what explains 2004, 2000, 1980, 1984, 1968, 1972, 1952, 1956???? |
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qwlauren35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
60. If we could see faces... |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. I agree with you... |
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abbiehoff (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
65. Common perception is that a black man has to be 100% better |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
70. Another way of looking at it.... we were drunk on racism for hundreds of years ... |
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