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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:19 PM
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Canvassed today. Three republicans told me they were with McCain til Palin
Palin lost them. They're voting Obama. REPUBLICANS people!
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:20 PM
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1. Woo-hoo!
That's the best news I've heard all day. Funny, I think you are the second person on DU from New Hampshire who has had an anecdote like that. I guess she's not playing too well up there, eh?
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:23 PM
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11. I was surpised by the republican reception to our call
I know for a fact independents are bullshit. The women I know will vote local republican, but not for McCain. They are ripping mad. Seems the token vagina thing sent them into a rage.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:26 PM
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13. Republican women? or men?
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:29 PM
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15. All republican men.
Mostly independent women, but a few men who are really concerned about their fixed incomes.....these are land owners with old money and their concerned about their fixed incomes. WTF?
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:31 PM
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19. The returns on capital in dividend form...
have been pretty crappy under both Bushes.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:50 PM
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35. The thought of Sarah Palin in charge of our economy IS scary.
I wonder what my boss feels about this. I didn't want to rub it in so I didn't discuss it much.

It must scare him that I know more about economics than she does. lol.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:20 PM
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2. Excellent news.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:20 PM
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3. I believe it..we'll see just how many
suckers they're are.
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:21 PM
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4. In NH, which is usually mcCain country!
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 02:21 PM by AllieB
:applause:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:34 PM
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22. Seriously!
I met one angry republican lady out of 40.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:21 PM
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5. Any port in a storm!
Good work, graywarrior! :applause:
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:21 PM
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6. I think there are far more of those than we realize.
That choice could tip the balance for those who were a bit worried about McZombie's potential for dementia and reputation for rash decisions.
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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:22 PM
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7. Great news - probably being repeated everywhere.
For every rabid RW KKK Republican Palin revs up to vote, there may be two moderate Republicans who are turned off. Let's hope so - it does make sense.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:22 PM
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8. You made that up!
Republicans aren't that analytical - or picky. ;)
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:35 PM
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23. These are real estate guys. Very analytical.
The woman I canvassed with knows this people well and even she was shocked.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:22 PM
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9. Sarah Boleyn is a dangerous person
I wonder what will happen when PUtin doesn't "show deference" to her royal usurperness?

HRH. Oh, this is America? Did anyone tell Boleyn/Paleyn?
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:22 PM
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10. Thank you . Posts like these help dispel the doom and gloom.
I wish the nervous nellies would be doing more canvassing and less looking to knock down the ticket. We need all the help we can get.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:24 PM
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12. Oh, and let me add this was a wealthy neighborhood.
Extreme wealth.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:35 PM
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24. well that might explain it.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:38 PM
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28. How so?
Most wealth in NH goes republican.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:40 PM
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30. They don't relate to her populist story and that's all she's got.
Nothing more there.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:48 PM
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33. Gotcha!
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:28 PM
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14. THIS is why Palin *is* an issue -- even if the campaign can't or doesn't want ...
... to attack her directly. Demolish the manufactured image of her and McCain's poor judgment and decision-making is highlighted.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:30 PM
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16. All 3 republicans were concerned about his making a decision like that
It seemed like a huge issue with them that he'd use a woman to get a vote.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:33 PM
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21. So they weren't even aware of what an unqualified candidate she is?
That's a good sign.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:36 PM
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25. Oh, they were aware of that.
The Russia near Alaska thing had them laughing.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 04:09 PM
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45. Yeah, I was howling at that, too, when it came from Steve Doocy & Cindy McCain ...
... but began getting worried when it came from John McCain.

    ABC via C&L: Delusional John McCain peddles “Alaska is close to Russia” nonsense

    GIBSON: Can you honestly say you feel confident having someone who hasn’t traveled outside the United States until last year, dealing with an insurgent Russia, with an Iran with nuclear ambitions, with an unstable Pakistan, not to mention the war on terror?

    MCCAIN: Sure. And one of the key elements of America’s national security requirements are energy. She understands the energy issues better than anybody I know in Washington, D.C., and she understands. Alaska is right next to Russia. She understands that.

Now I'm wondering whether someone should question McCain as to whom he consults on foreign policy.

In a serious country, this guy would be laughed off the stage.
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:30 PM
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17. That's fantastic. And coming from you, I believe it.
I have a feeling that Palin is going to lose nearly everyone except the die-hard right wing for them.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:33 PM
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20. NH voters are intelligent voters and independent thinkers.
They can sniff out a con and a lie and they do not like it. They will not support it. A lot of the undecideds really hinted that Obama had their interest but they will make their decision based on the debates and who presents the better plan for the economy. The economy is a big big issue here. That and oil prices for heating.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:30 PM
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18. See, more and more are coming over....I just said this a while ago.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:37 PM
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26. One of them is impressed with Obama's campaign.
As a business man, this impressed him so he decided to take a closer look after the Palin thing.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:40 PM
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31. Which is why Obama is staying on message, and not attacking...
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 02:42 PM by 1corona4u
people are sick of that. I think there are some democrats on this board, who are so afraid of coming off as being weak, that they want total attacks on McAss. But the public is tired of that. The political junkies on here don't get that.

By the way, go here and read some of their reasons. On the left;

http://www.republicansforobama.org/
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:50 PM
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34. Yes, it is seriously about the issues this time
Attacks are not going to work. No one is paying attention....at least not the people I talked with today. They're too busy running their lives.
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:37 PM
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27. Tell that to Chicken Little, who is whining on another post right now, saying
that the Obama campaign is FAILING!
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:52 PM
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36. Obama's campaign is attracting republican's attention.
They're not gonna go shouting it from the rooftops. But see, this is why canvassing is so important. You get to talk with people and find out what they're really thinking. They will talk to their neighbors. They are very concerned. Hard core republicans, we can't do anything about, but the ones concerned about this country, we can.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:47 PM
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32. I'm hearing the samething.
Lots of "I wish he had picked Hutchison or Pawlenty, someone like that".
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:53 PM
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37. They're torn between holding their noses and voting for Palin
or, what I think they'll do, is wait til their in the voting boothe and vote Obama.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:56 PM
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38. K and R
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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:07 PM
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39. You just made my day...
Oh boy, did you make my day. I see and talk to folks in Maine and they are poor, some of them are so poor and yet they vote against their own interests time after time. I can't stand it. Thanks for the positive news and for your work.
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:12 PM
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40. There is something I haven't seen mentioned....
which is...there is no shortage of misogyny from the good-ol boys network on the right. Not a one of them is foolish enough to put it on public display, but given how often we have heard traditional gender roles discussed by them in dated contexts, you know it exists just beneath the surface. I don't think it's quantifiable, because you'll never get any of them to admit they feel that the role of women should be more subdued, but there is no shortage of them, and my guess is they comprise a pretty sizeable portion of their base.

One need look no further than the uproar over women ministers and preachers among Evangelicals to see that there is plenty of that type of thinking still alive and well in the GOP base.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:14 PM
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42. Yep. I picture lots of those older men just quaking in their boots
picturing Caribou Barbie as commander in chief.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 05:20 PM
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47. Two of them expressed their support for a woman at VP or P
One didn't comment either way.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:13 PM
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41. Now THAT is interesting. Tell me, what were other Republicans saying?
Were they jazzed up by Palin?

I'm not a hand-wringer so feel free to be honest.

:hi:
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:20 PM
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43. There really are TWO types of Republicans
Type A) Fiscially conservative.. they want smaller, less government. Socially, they don't particularly care what people do if they're not breaking laws (ie gay marriage, abortion, etc.) Fiscally, I agree with Republicans on some of thier financial points. I wouldn't mind seeing a limit put on welfare - although unlike a lot of Republicans, I certainly wouldn't want to see it go away. But - that is for another post.

Type B) Socially conservative.. Frankly, these people tend to be the lesser educated of the two groups. They vote based on their bibles and what "God" wants them to do. Abortion & Gay's are evil - and nothing else matters. They will vote far against thier own interests just to repress others in society that they deem unacceptable.

Sadly, the Republican party has quickly been taken over by the "Type B's" in recent years. And, this is upsetting the Type A's who are realizing that democrats are no WORSE about fiscal matters then current republicans, and they mostly agree with democrats on the social side anyways - so they might as well vote for a democrat instead of a republican - because right now we're closer to their ideals then Republicans are.

John McCain was actually doing a good job at luring those "Type A" republicans back.. until he went and had Palin join the ticket. Then he just reinforced the idea that the Religious right truly is in control of that party - and even John McCain the "Maverick" doesn't have much control of it anymore.

Hopefully this is a win for us!
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:22 PM
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44. I read a poll analysis the other day about Palin that
said while she gains votes for McCain, she actually LOSES more votes than she gains for him so it's a negative effect. I wish I could remember where I read it.

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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 04:21 PM
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46. I am too invested to trust my gut ... BUT ...
I hate this woman based on merit, and I so believe in BO, and KNOW McCain is a disaster waiting to happen.

But, I just can't shake the gut feeling that her pick simply gives the "reason" for a lot of people who were going to go all gaga over whoever he picked anyway, their "reason" to vote for McCain, while she pushes A LOT of the "indies" who really did not know for sure, or who might have been leaning a tick to McCain, over to BO ...

That is my gut sense, and my gut is usually pretty good, except I am too invested either way here.

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