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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:11 AM
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Gwen Ifill will Moderate the Biden/Palin VP "Debate"...
Aug. 5, 2008 — Gwen Ifill, a longtime correspondent and moderator for nationally televised public broadcasting news programs, has been selected to moderate the Oct. 2 vice presidential debate at Washington University in St. Louis.

Paul G. Kirk Jr. and Frank J. Fahrenkopf Jr., co-chairmen of the non-partisan Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD), today announced the moderators for the 2008 general election presidential and vice presidential debates.

...

http://news-info.wustl.edu/news/page/normal/12104.html


And the format of the debate?

All debates will be ninety minutes in length and start at 9:00 p.m. ET.

Each debate will be administered by a single moderator.

...

the vice presidential debate will include domestic and foreign policy.

In each debate except the town meeting format, the candidates will be seated at a table with the moderator.

Kirk and Fahrenkopf introduced two format features different from CPD formats of the past. The first change will be incorporated in the first and third presidential debates as well as the vice-presidential debate.

Each of those debates will be divided into 8 ten-minute issue segments; the moderator will introduce each segment with an issue on which each candidate will comment, after which the moderator will facilitate further discussion of the issue, including direct exchange between the candidates, for the balance of that segment. Time will be reserved for closing statements by each of the candidates in each debate.

http://www.debates.org/pages/news_111907.html


And Gwen Ifill?

PBS' Ifill failed to identify Competitive Enterprise Institute as conservative, energy industry-funded

Summary: In a segment on Al Gore's global warming campaign, PBS' Gwen Ifill noted that "critics have called Gore 'alarmist,' " before airing a clip of an ad produced by the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI), which she identified only as a "Washington think tank." But Ifill did not mention that CEI is a conservative institution largely funded by the energy industry, which has a financial stake in opposing policies that seek to combat climate change.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200605250007

...

PBS' Ifill characterized liberal criticism of Alito as "demonization"

Summary: PBS senior correspondent Gwen Ifill characterized criticism of Supreme Court nominee Samuel A. Alito Jr. by liberal "interest groups" as "demonization."

http://mediamatters.org/items/200601110003


Think that Gewn just might supply Palin's tutors with the debate questions? :shrug:
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:13 AM
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1. Gwen's gone corporate...Joe will have to overcome her wishy-washiness
and he will.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 06:08 PM
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25. Yea, but is she a D, or an R?
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 06:11 PM
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26. She's not supposed to be either on television.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:13 AM
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2. If our VP candidate was someone other that Biden, I might be more concerned.
He's so seasoned at this, he'll be sure to get the message across, regardless of the questions.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:13 AM
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3. She can have the questions all she wants
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 11:14 AM by Jake3463
The problem is when Biden challenges her response from a direction Palin isn't prepared for and Palin is left mumbling rw talking points.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:16 AM
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5. Biden challenges are only allowed if Gwen says so....
Each of those debates will be divided into 8 ten-minute issue segments; the moderator will introduce each segment with an issue on which each candidate will comment, after which the moderator will facilitate further discussion of the issue, including direct exchange between the candidates, for the balance of that segment. Time will be reserved for closing statements by each of the candidates in each debate.

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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:15 AM
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4. And this in NY Magazine...
"Yet the roar of approval was deafening inside the hall when Palin strode to the podium. The faithful, fueled by resentment toward the “liberal media”—at one point the delegates chanted “Shame on you” in the general direction of an aghast Gwen Ifill—over its treatment of her, wanted her to wow them."

I bet she pulls her punches after that.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:17 AM
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6. Ifill is a GOP tool
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 11:18 AM by Joe Bacon
Bob Somerby documented her repeated whoring for the GOP in his Daily Howler

http://www.dailyhowler.com
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:28 AM
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9. I agree. n/t
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:16 AM
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31. Yup, no question....
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:19 AM
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7. Great - another corporate media whore
How she ever got on PBS is beyond me - just another RW shill

Her and moose mom will be all chummy during the debate - "just us girls" type of thing y'know.

Joe better be ready for this.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:33 AM
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10. Yep. She'll get some corny girl-talk vibe going
that will make anything Palin says look brilliant.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:22 AM
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8. Gwen Ifill? - don't kid yourslves, Ifill will bring out the shrillness of Palen...the broad
is only a tool, Obama camp will soon put a lid on Palen Baby, especially when Hillary and Bill step up to the plate!
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:34 AM
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11. No matter who moderates, Biden will have the toughest job of all.
All eyes will be on Joe to see how he is going to handle Palin...pitbull...female. His natural inclination will be to treat her as a lady, and I don't think she fits that category, but there are a ton of Repugs who will argue the point.

If he takes off the gloves and handles her like an opponent, regardless of gender, he'll be criticized for being so rough on a woman.

I have confidence he will be able to zing her in his answers, but he won't be able to zing her too many times or he'll be considered as ruthless.

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

I'm hoping she comes out like a pitbull and makes one of her snide remarks, then Joe can ignore the gender and his upbringing to be polite to women, no matter what, and treat her like an opponent....or a pitbull, whichever fits.

Barack and John will just debate as usual. No surprises there, except that Barack will mow John down in the first round.

I have a feeling I should bypass the popcorn during the Biden/Palin debate. I'll be too nervous pulling for Joe.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 05:24 PM
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21. I think he should rip her to shreds. Someone's got to.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 12:13 PM
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33. If I were Biden, I'd just say "Fuck it" and go for it.
Take her the fuck apart. He already knows the media will demonize him, so he might as well look good doing it.

And who knows? If he's tough, smart, and unyielding, maybe people will see a disconnect between the MSM narrative and what they actually saw Biden do.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:36 AM
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12. Isn't she supposed to be Condi Rice's best gal friend?
At least there were strong rumors about their close friendship all over the Web at one time.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:44 AM
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13. I think so and even Condi (like C. Powell) has not come out
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 11:45 AM by hlthe2b
in endorsement of McSHame, at least not to my knowledge (I know Colin hasn't)... Could be that they suddenly remembered they have some African American blood within, and that it has become just a wee bit harder picking the incompetant old rich white guy over the once-in-a-lifetime mega-inspiring black candidate.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:48 AM
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14. She doesn't sound that hostile
I think she's a person of color and she wrote a book about Obama and the new politics of race that's due out next year. The blurb about the books credits Obama with transforming racial politics to a new better level.

http://www.amazon.com/Breakthrough-Politics-Race-Age-Obama/dp/038552501X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1220805980&sr=8-1

There's no way on earth that the wingers aren't going to complain about Ifill moderating. Of course, we might have a working the ref situation where she bends over backwards to look fair.
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BronxBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:52 AM
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15. Not sure
Haven't watched Gwen Ifill much. But I've read the comments on this thread and the consensus seems to be she is a corporate hack.

The wild card in this is that a lot of Black folks are very happy she's the moderator. They think that because she is Black, she might take a more even-handed approach.

Thanks for the links.

I'll spread them around to some Black folks who may feel this way.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:12 PM
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17. I'm African American and we know her as Condi's friend
Any friend of Condi's is not a friend of ours.
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BronxBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:52 PM
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23. They love her on the TJMS
How you been Goclark?
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 12:46 AM
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30. Hi Bronxboy ~ I'm great and will be better when
Obama wins!

Ifill better not be naughty to Barack or she'll have to deal with Sister goclark ~

I don't like nobody messing with our next President!

Fired Up, ready to get out the vote!
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 05:04 PM
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20. Almost all nationally produced CPB programming is corporate.
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 05:57 PM by intheflow
It is, after all, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, and it's board is chock full of RWingers who look like philanthropists on paper but have conservative Repuke political connections--often through their marriages. For example, the Chair of the Board's husband was an economic advisor to GHW Bush. The second Board member listed, Beth Courtney, is married to the head of Courtney Communications, a political advising company that seems to have been involved in a money laundering scheme so that a Repuke Louisiana politician could use David Duke's propaganda resources without it looking like they were connected to Duke. The third board member listed is a member of the Heritage Foundation and is active in Florida Republican politics.

Sorry, I could only stand to read/research three CPB board member bios because my stomach just isn't strong enough for this today.




Edited because my typos always seem to be actual words that spell check misses. *sigh*
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 01:56 PM
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16. You know what, if Amy Goodman isn't moderating the debates, then there's no real choices. nt
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 04:24 PM
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19. Yep.
I wouldn't even mind seeing a Fox moderator if Goodman was also allowed to moderate. THAT would be fair and balanced reporting.

And what's with only one person moderating, anyway? :shrug:
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Fighting Donkey Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:13 PM
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18. Do you think Biden will be able to hold his ground
against that new Republican "powerhouse?"

:evilgrin:


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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 12:22 PM
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34. Joe has shown a number of times he is not a Whimp.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 05:26 PM
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22. Ifill moderated the Cheney/Edwards debate 4 years ago, and
I thought she did an OK job. She didn't seem biased to me either way. She was the only debate moderator the whole year who brought up the issue of poverty in America, as far as I can recall.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:56 PM
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24. What happened to the traditional podium this in my opinion favors McSane because
of his height standing next to Obama makes him look very short.
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 06:12 PM
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27. She is unbiased and a great moderator
There is no reason to worry
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 06:43 PM
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29. My only concern is the backlash
being threatened and not forcefully rejected if Joe beats her up.

If a woman can't go toe to toe then she has ZERO business in the White House in any capacity.

THAT'S EQUALITY!

If you believe in equality then stand up and DEMAND IT!!!!
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 06:15 PM
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28. She's not exactly known for her Tim Russert follow-ups, but, she's not dumb, either.
And she should show up with stats on things, and pose very specific questions in difficult corners. It will be hard for her to corner Biden on much.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 12:10 PM
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32. I'm happy about this...
...given all the talk about how Biden needs to be "careful" on he "attacks" or "goes after" Palin.
The fact that it is a female moderator is a plus in that it will take an edge off the criticisms that she was being "ganged up on" or something.

Since, I can't post yet, just thought I'd add this. What really bugs me are the other two moderators, Tom Brokaw and Bob Schieffer, because of an article in the NYT re: McCain's cozy past relationship with the press. It said that during the 2004 Repub. convention that these two were at a small intimate birthday party for McCain -- and out of all the people available, these are the two moderating the debates? DISGUSTING! Just based on their own ethical standards, if they claim to be true journalists, they should not have accepted!
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 12:39 PM
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35. TOTALLY AGREE - BROKAW AND SCHIEFFER have both shown unfair bias against Obama
and if they were at an intimate birthday party for him, they should NOT be in charge of the debates!

That's like Bush being governor of FL when Bush was running as president, or J Kenneth Blackwell being Bush's campaign head in Ohio the same time he was in charge of statewide election decisions as S.O.S.!!!!!

DAMMITTTTTTTTT

MORE AT www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable
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