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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:30 AM
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What do you all think of McCain (I can't even include moose lady) supporters?
Are they outrageously stupid or they viciously and selfishly responsible for millions of deaths and the destruction of our constitution and economy.

Do you despise them? Can you forgive them? Do you see them as an inconvenience? Do you think Obama could or should bring us together with them? Will uniting us work? Are we not looking at the whole picture somehow?

Personally, as a team leader for my town, my job is to organize volunteers and get phone banks humming and canvassing rolling. Obama principles are to stay above the fray and not get into trashing republicans. I try. I don't exhibit any real emotion when I am on the job. However, I cannot seem to get past the deep revulsion, the absolute RED anger I feel towards these people. I'm afraid it clouds my rational thought and causes me to make emotional over intelligence decisions. I hate that. My entire recover process in a 12 step program comes into conflict around the injustice done to this country.

Anyhow, I'd like your opinions. I am off to canvassing all day and hope I can come home to some suggestions and/or commiserating.

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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:33 AM
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1. They are Scared of Obama.
Either as an "Unknown". Or as "Librul". Or as a "Black Man". Or as a "Gun Stealing Tax Raiser".

Those are the ONLY reasons I have heard, from real people, as to why they are voting for mcpow. I have never heard anyone argue for mcpow, only against Obama.
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:41 AM
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2. they are another inconvenient truth..the truth is they are all over the place, just
concentrated more heavily in some places than others.

I don't tolerate narrow minded well at all. It is my failing, as I try to practice tolerance in all aspects of my life.

I too get irrational and can't respond to their garbage. Lose my voice, get tongue-tied, suffer amnesia of the talking points. I hate myself when that happens. I just stare at them like "where the hell did you get THAT?"!!


I remember the invectives my Old Testament professor used to use when he got off on a rant about on the literal interpretations of the Bible particularly the book of Genesis (which he referred to as The Mythology of the Hebrews). This has become my mantra almost when faced with ignorance at any level:

Balderdash, Claptrap, gutter rubbish and hogwash! Repeated often. Sometimes in a different sequence.

He used to shout that out in class at least once per lecture, we loved him.
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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:41 AM
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3. I have a neighbor.
She is a devout Catholic, retired Colonel, lesbian, generally pretty progressive, in her mid-70s. She is voting for McCain this year, because, 'Obama is too far out there.' My jaw dropped.

A woman in my office who I love dearly is a staunch Republican, the only one at work. We can't even talk politics. It would get too ugly. She made a snide remark the other day about Obama being from Kenya (while I was talking about a kid I had just met from Kenya who is trilingual - nothing political at all!), so I am guessing her issues are partly racial. But she thinks Bush is great, and she supports McCain totally, probably without even thinking. She is really intelligent, too!

I don't run into many Republicans. I live in a small county with about 13000 registered Dems and about 3000 registered Republicans.
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cyndensco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:04 AM
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4. The mccain supporters who have all along aligned themselves as repub
are curiosities to me, but I don't hate them. I do not understand how they could be in favor of the social issues they hold dear but figure we are just wired differently. I have little contact with any, and wish it to remain that way. Most of these folk, IMO, will not be swayed. They will vote for mccain even though it will prolong their, and our, struggle with the same old shit.

The life-long democrats who are now supporting mccain, though, bother me. Whether they are still angry over Hillary's loss, fans of Palin, or unable to vote for Obama just cause, these people IMO deserve no respect. They are willing to prolong their, and our, struggle with the same old shit while voting against the issues they hold dear.



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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:23 AM
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5. Simple equation: they are either rich or stupid. n/t
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:24 AM
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6. They're either a threat or a menace
Not sure which.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:27 AM
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7. They simply don't think; they are incapable of critical thinking.
They operate on an emotional level that keeps them from seeing the forest through the trees. They vote on likability, not issues. Case in point - from a Repubican blog:

"My wife is genuinely excited by Mrs. Palin, because she see's herself. They don't share many political beliefs but, they do share a background in the real America that's not mirrored in the Ivy League coastal elites."

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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:29 AM
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8. One of them is my dear old dad, unfortunately.
I don't think he's reachable (or people like him). He's a watcher of Fox news who has never really experienced want or devastating misfortune. If you say "poor people" in his hearing you can actually see his eyes glaze over.

I was once working a minimum wage job and was short of cash for bills. I sucked it up to ask him for a loan. Instead, he sent me a copy of some resume' software. I later joshed him about it and he said he thought that I was making 11.00 an hour at the retail job. He just can't imagine.

MPK
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:37 AM
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9. I work with a whole bunch
And there's 3 things you don't talk about at work - and one of them is politics.

But they do anyway. I don't get worked up over it because they are so ridiculous.

One was telling me that Obama supports killing babies outside of the womb. Said it with a straight face, too.

I sarcastically responded that I heard he drinks their blood, too.

This particular Gramps supporter I work with is a fundy originally from out of state (South of here).


And to throw shit back at 'em, so to speak, I sometimes quote Proverbs 11:17

"Your own soul is nourished when you are kind, but you destroy yourself when you are cruel."


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sammytko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:38 AM
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10. It is because he is black
The people I know will tell you something else, but since I know them, I know the truth.

They just won't say it out loud...
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:27 PM
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11. Well, I was enlightened today after canvassing for Obama
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:38 PM
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12. Many McCain supporters are simply suckers for his "Maverick" shtick.
I know several self-proclaimed "Independents," mostly in thier 40s, that support McCain because they think he is a "moderate." :crazy:
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