If this ends up tied 269 - 269, what plans are there for the House of Representatives?

[rug]

[BklynChick]

1. well then we win, of course.

[tekisui]

2. They vote Obama.

But, there is only one scenario for that to happen, very unlikely.

[rug]

6. It's one vote per state. Do we have 26 state delegations?

http://clerk.house.gov/art_history/house_history/electoral.html

BTW, playing with these electoral vote projections, I see Obama with 20-22 states to 28 - 30 for McCain. Doo we control enough House delegations in each state?

[tekisui]

10. The state delegation is decided by the number

of reps from each party per state?

[blue_onyx]

11. I read a CNN article that said Dems control 26 delegations...

while Republicans control 21 and 3 are tied. So Obama would win although it would be close. What's weird is that some states could switch votes. For example, Michigan could vote for Obama but it's delegation would vote McCain in a tie since we have more Republican representatives. In the end, Obama would win which is what really matters.

[rug]

12. I just checked the clerk's roster: 26 D, 22 R, 2 tied (AZ 4-4 and KS 2-2)

Oddly, the Dems have ND and SD because there's only one Representaive, and it's 3-2 Dem in Iowa. (Ironically, Delaware has one Republican representative which whould give them the state.)

I can see enormous pressure on one or two Dems in red states to switch to give them a one vote win. If that happens it's Profiles in Courage time.

[DCBob]

7. Actually there are multiple tie scenarios. I have identified 5 plausible ones.

They can be viewed here:

http://zbob.net/yeswecan/USAVote.html

This is a flash based map application I built. Just go to the drop down and select "tie scenario 1 - 5". In my opinion it is quite possible. Thank goodness we have the majority in the House!

[book_worm]

3. well the dems control the house and we are expected to gain another 20-30 seats

so I guess the house would probably name Obama president. But it's unlikely to be a 269-269 tie.

[WeDidIt]

4. We win in that case.

Done deal, we have the delegations.

[vaberella]

16. Yeah that's true, we dominate the House. We just don't dominate the Senate. n/t

[no_hypocrisy]

5. And the beauty of it is it's in the House, not the Senate. Lieberman

can't have his last dramatic hurrah.

[tomg]

8. Provided they don't take it off the table.

I'm kidding. Really. aaaaaaah the fire, the flames. :hide:

[progressiveforever]

9. We should win anyway, but some Dems will play politics

Some will vote McCain if taht's the way their district went. It will be the old house that votes (the one in now)- We need to make sure this doesn't happen. Of course, I remember telling a class the day of the 2000 election that it was possible for one candidate to win the electoral vote and another to win the popular vote, but that hadn't happened in over a hundred years----hmmm.

The vote hasn't gone to the House since 1824 (JQ Adams vs. Jackson)

[rurallib]

13. Question - is it the 110th congress or the 111th congress that votes?

The old congress or the newly elected congress?

[suston96]

14. I think it will be the old congress...... The electoral votes are counted ...see edit below.

Amendment XII: Election of executive branch.

The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;--The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;--The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.3 --The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

On edit: The counting will be done on Jan 9, 2009 - that would be by the NEW Congress.

http://scottyurb.blogspot.com/2007/06/2008-electoral-college-tie-would-likely.html

[vaberella]

15. It won't happen. The GOP is terrified of Palin as well.

Remember no one is able to say one damn positive thing about Palin.