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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:46 PM
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One thing that bears repeating: the Nazis had this pegged
Luftwaffe chief Hermann Göring knew just how it was done.
This has been posted and reposted a million times. I don't
care. Read it again. And again. It was SAID by Hermann Göring.
It was taken to heart by the party of John McCain:

"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."

Plus ça change...........
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Cattledog Donating Member (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:49 PM
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1. So does the Republican Party.
They've just taken Goring's philosophy and adapted it to America.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:50 PM
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2. K&R. I'd tattoo that on my forehead if I had the space.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:51 PM
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3. you are right it needs to be repeated K&R n/t
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:54 PM
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4. I also believe that the German people did not consider
Hitler a serious threat and they let him dismantle the government piece by piece.

Just as the Repugs have been doing by stacking the courts, the DOJ, all government programs and the list goes on.....they Repugs committ crimes and then manage not to be held accountable...sound familiar?
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:06 PM
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5. ...HAVE this pegged.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:06 PM
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6. Country first = Deutschland uber alles
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:09 PM
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7. kick
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phiddle Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:18 PM
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8. Point well taken, however, your attribution, I believe, is incorrect.
It should be the propaganda minister, Josef Göbbels.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:17 AM
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11. Göring may have gotten it from Göbbels
But this was taken verbatim from an interview with Göring in his cell before
being judged at Nürnberg. Göbbels committed suicide before he could be taken.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:22 PM
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9. NO ONE
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 08:25 PM by kwolf68

understood propaganda like Hitler, Goring and Goebbels...no one.

Similarities are striking

-overtly nationalistic
-obsessed with symbols (the flag for instance)
-external boogeyman (justification for imperalism)
-internal boogeyman (justification for restricting civil liberties)
-marginalization of a distinct group of people (Jews, hippies, communists, socialists)

I have studied this movement as much as my original discipline and Hitler knew that the only way to get elected would be to run on a more mainstream platform. We've all heard the Nazis were called "national socialists", but they truly weren't socialists, rather nationalists.

Because of the economic depression Germany was facing in the early 1930s, Hitler said/wrote himself that he would have to run on an egalitarian platform.

Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf:

The incorporation of the volkisch (Nazi) ideology into a party in the form of NSDAP is the only way to victory


He was saying that to get Nazism/fascism implemented into Germany it had to be through a mainstream party. In this case, the workers party.


His boogeymen were Jews of course and many of the same things said about Jews are the exact same things being said of Liberals today. To accomplish his agenda of a pure white race meant Jews had to be removed. This is a bit different than the 'liberal' thing, because Hitler was obsessed with the 'cultural' implications of the Jewish peoples influence on Germany. Read anything substantial about Hitler and you will find he was obsessed with "BLOOD", in that he wanted it to remain pure.

So there are differences from that standpoint, but the playbook the Republicans are using against us is strikingly similiar. I say that admitting that most republicans would not want to see us hearded into death camps or anything.

Last note...if you ever get into an argument with anyone who says Hitler was a socialist because he was in the National Socialist German Workers Party just ask them if there was just a socialist party at the same time? And if so, what became of those people? Basically, leftists in Germany were heavily persecuted before Hitler outlawed those parties altogether.

ANYONE genuinely seeking the truth will understand Hitler was a right-wing fascist and the best way to understand a fascist is to read what they wrote. If you are a Liberal doing any objective research into Nazi Germany, there are more than a few things that make you go….hmmmmmmmm.

Conversely, the communists weren't a hell of a lot better.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:26 PM
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10. Evil does not mean stupid


usually
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:20 AM
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12. As we say here in the Rheinland:
Kann sein, kann auch nicht sein (could be, could be not), or, as Bush would sing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Zg_Z6P0GE
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chieftain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:32 AM
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13.  Says it all, doesn't it? eom
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