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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 02:24 AM
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Palin's speech played right into Obama's hands
Obama has been pushing the message that the Republicans have no new ideas, only insults and divisive politics. And that's exactly what was in Palin's speech. And all the others, too. The Democrats only have to stick to message. "More of the same, more of the same, more of the same". The independents are too sick of Republicans to believe that they could be the true party of change.
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Omnibus Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 02:28 AM
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1. After reading CNN's comment section
I think you're right.

People who heard her, and aren't partisan Publicans, agree she isn't what they're looking for in our national government.

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 02:29 AM
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2. You got it....
Plus Miss new-around-the-block doesn't realize that the media don't play that. There is a reason that Barack rarely if ever riles against the media....It's not something to do....especially in a speech that will be watched by millions. This will not be ending well. Some folks are deeply pissed.
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 02:34 AM
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4. Probably not a good idea to piss off people...
who buy ink by the gallon
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 02:29 AM
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3. Absolutely
And she said such ugly things that an ad will be so simple. All they have to say at the end of it is, "More Of The Same".
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 02:37 AM
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7. It's a strategy that's beautiful in its simplicity.
Attack Republicans' strength (insults), attack their weakness (Bush), stay on message. Palin is just a distraction. And far from a positive one.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 02:36 AM
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5. I'm surprised, after reading around the 'nets, how many commenters
who were NOT identified as Dems seemed to feel protective about Obama, and thought her attacks on him were over the line. I think it's because the public has had 20 months to get to know him, and know he's a decent soul (whether or not they agree with his politics) and the attitude toward Miss Nasty's speech tonight is "Who the hell are YOU, to attack HIM?"
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 02:38 AM
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8. People have been assuming that palin won't be attacked because she's female, but she blew it...
by acting like the most shrewish scold of a schoolteacher that anyone could imagine.
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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 08:31 AM
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15. I thought the same thing!
The combination of the school-marm glasses and hair style, and the incessant finger-wagging created a really nasty combined effect.

Of course, that room full of pasty-faced cretins were eating it up.

It was like watching Sean Hannity play to an arena sized studio-audience... in a skirt.

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japple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 08:50 AM
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22. She has a weird "gleam" in her eyes. Kind of like Nurse Ratched.
She looks a bit deranged or brainwashed to me.
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 02:36 AM
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6. they just need
They just need to use Jed's "crickets" video about the entire convention, and that would work well.
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nico818 Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 02:50 AM
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9. They made a HUGE Strategic error in the speech!
The Obama camp is already capitalizing with emails. When they made fun of Barracks experience as a community organizer, it opened up a new angle for Barrack to attack them as "same ol', same ol'"...

Here is a line from the email: "Community organizing is how ordinary people respond to out-of-touch politicians and their failed policies."


McCain campaign are gonna feel the heat soon.


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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 08:24 AM
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11. I think you're right about the email. I hadn't ever donated but did tonight.
They just opened a can of worms.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 08:46 AM
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21. I donated for the first time last night as well!!
:thumbsup:
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Dr. Death Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 09:08 AM
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27. Yep, same for me.
Trash talking. That's all the repukes have.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 09:14 AM
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31. Woohoo!
:toast:
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 09:55 AM
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36. Thanks for reminding me.
Off to make another donation! :hi:
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 09:12 AM
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29. welcome to DU, nico818
:toast:
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 09:16 AM
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33. What a great line about community organizing!
Edited on Thu Sep-04-08 09:16 AM by MrWiggles
That should be in an ad and used as a mantra.

The pitbull with lipstick likes to bite people who choose to organize in order to help the needy.
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curious one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 03:07 AM
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10. After calming down and thinking some, I think Phalin speech tonight was test of her loyalty for
McLoser and because of that it did not have any substance. It was empty and full of hatred.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 08:26 AM
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12. Yup.
All she did was trash. She didn't do an effective job, imo, of introducing herself to anyone other than the base. She had no plans for how she would govern, and no plan to attract moderates or independents.

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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 08:29 AM
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13. TRASH TALK EXPRESS
After last night, that's what McLame's campaign should be called.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 08:57 AM
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26. ohhhh good one!
:thumbsup:
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 08:30 AM
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14. you're right about independents
I can't see how any of them could like that speech.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 08:37 AM
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16. Obama spoke to the independents, the non-political
He spoke the those who may have only tuned in to that one speech, because they didn't know who this Barack Obama guy is.

What were the folks thinking last night who tuned in last night because they didn't know who this Sarah Palin woman is?
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 08:39 AM
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17. Yep. Just what I said here...
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 08:39 AM
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18. And, for those upset that there isn't a push-back as yet...
isn't it usually the case that while the other party's convention is going on that no negativity is used, no ads put on TV? Even though the repukes didn't abide by this, aren't the Dems sticking to this plan and we can expect delightly truthful ads slamming them by weekend, as well as full-on assaults on the weekend talk shows?
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 08:41 AM
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19. her speech was like reading high school girls hating on each other
on their myspaces. :puke:
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 08:45 AM
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20. I used the phrase "moldy oldies" last night as Mittens was delivering his screed...
errrrrrr...I mean, "speech", and the subsequent speakers (Squirrel Boy, Captain 9/11, and Milfy McMooseburger) did absolutely nothing to alter that perception!!!

I kept saying to myself "The American people can't be falling for this tired old shit again, can they??"
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 08:51 AM
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23. "Milfy McMooseburger"
:rofl: I hope you don't mind if I borrow that. :D
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 08:52 AM
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24. It was like light and darkness
postive and negative.
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cameozalaznick Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 08:53 AM
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25. Appartently the guys over at
www.fivethirtyeight.com agree with you. There's an interesting column today about it. You won't hear this from the tv commentariat.
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 09:09 AM
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28. She really handed the Obama campaign a golden opportunity
when she referred to the "current do-nothing Senate." They should use that to hammer home the fact that the real reason the Senate is bogged down is Republican obstructionism, not Senate Democrats.

She gave 'em a two-fer! They now have an opportunity to point out that the implication that Democrats are to blame for the snail's pace of the Senate is a blatant lie, and it opens the door to let voters know that Republicans not only don't want change, they're actively opposing it every chance they get.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 09:12 AM
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30. well said! And welcome to DU!
:toast:
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 09:19 AM
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34. Thanks! n/t
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 09:16 AM
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32. It sure did.
I didn't hear a single damn solution, I didn't even hear them ADDRESS the concerns that most Americans are struggling with. Hell, I didn't even hear them acknowledge those concerns!
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 09:48 AM
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35. It was more than just the negativity. There are going to be several details
uncovered when this speech is analyzed. Here's a little taste of things to come:

Some of Palin's remarks stretch the truth
SPEECH: Gas pipeline, earmark issues have more subtlety than described.

Daily News staff and wire report

Published: September 4th, 2008 01:48 AM
Last Modified: September 4th, 2008 02:38 AM

Gov. Sarah Palin's remarks to the Republican National Convention about her record in state government stretched the truth.


GAS PIPELINE

PALIN: "I fought to bring about the largest private-sector infrastructure project in North American history. And when that deal was struck, we began a nearly forty billion dollar natural gas pipeline to help lead America to energy independence. That pipeline, when the last section is laid and its valves are opened, will lead America one step farther away from dependence on dangerous foreign powers that do not have our interests at heart.

THE FACTS: Palin implies that construction has begun on a major natural gas pipeline from the top of Alaska into Canada. That is not correct.

In fact, no building has begun and actual construction is years away, if it ever happens. This summer the Alaska Legislature, at Palin's request, passed a bill under which the state will issue a "license" to a Canadian energy company, TransCanada Corp., and pay it up to $500 million as an incentive to someday build this enormous project, which Alaska politicians have long sought with little success. The license is not a construction contract, and federal energy regulators have not yet approved the project.

Palin also puts the price tag for the project at $40 billion, an exaggeration. This is roughly $10 billion more than most cost estimates industry players and consultants have made to date.

http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/515517.html

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