If you gave Palin's speech a letter grade what would it be? A-F?

[book_worm]

I didn't watch it so I can't say.

[FrenchieCat]

1. Me neither....so I can't help you.

[itsrobert]

2. Z

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ for snooze fest.

[dolo amber]

14. Aye

:boring:

[bookman]

3. Three Letters

SOS

Same Old Shit

[MissDeeds]

4. P - Pathetic n/t

[pettypace]

5. One of the most effective I've ever heard, I'm afraid

My god, where did she come from???

[book_worm]

20. as good as Hillary or Obama last week?

[kestrel91316]

39. I agree. VERY effective in showing the entire world

1 - How full of herself she is.
2 - How incredibly vicious, arrogant, hateful and full of hubris she is.
3 - How sophomoric her speaking skills are.
4 - How much she resembles the alien in the movie of the same name, with that RIDICULOUS pointy-headed hairdo from hell.

[Hoof Hearted]

65. Her hairdo?

Jesus H. Christ. There's plenty of ISSUES to trash her on. Could we just PRETEND not to be the sexist motherfuckers of the left for just one night?

[kestrel91316]

68. I'm a woman. I'll criticize her hair if I like. She's the exact kind of bitch who

wouldn't hesitate to call me fat and ugly to my face. She has shown her true colors, and the gloves are off.

[susanna]

50. Dupe: Self delete n/t

[susanna]

52. Two threads now gushing over her.

Why do you like her so much? Just curious.

I found it rehashed rhetoric that will fire up the red-meat base, but Independents all over the country might be put off by the snark and sarcasm. Why do you think she was that good? Please, do tell.

[pettypace]

73. Its not about liking her

For christsake, objectively, how can you not give her props for her performance tonight.

And yes, she's very attractive, I'm not the only guy here who thinks that...I assure you that's not enough for me to vote for her.

[susanna]

75. I don't have to give her props,

because she (to me) sounded sarcastic, snarky and condescending. So I would say that you and I are viewing through vastly different prisms of experience.

I'm glad you find her so amazing. I just don't.

[bookman]

6. Three Letters

SOS

Same Old Shit

[bookman]

7. Three Letters

SOS

Same Old Shit

[AtomicKitten]

8. AK47.

[HughMoran]

I didn't watch it either, so it sucked

Sarena won her match though :D

[Colobo]

9. Honesly- C-

[mikelgb]

10. not over

crowd likes it

some good one liners that will become talking points

definitely not a disaster for GOP

[bookman]

11. Three Letters

SOS

Same Old Shit

[bookman]

12. Three Letters

SOS

Same Old Shit

[saltpoint]

13. Content -- F. Delivery -- D-

[K8-EEE]

15. D

Her voice was VERY annoying....very Miss Beauty pageant trying to impress the judges. Literally NOTHING of substance...

I also thought some of the "red meat" stuff came of very insulting to most Americans, such as the "being mayor is like community organizer except with real responsibilities." Anybody been a Girl Scout Leader? I have....is taking 22 eleven year old girls camping for the weekend "responsibility?" Is it worthless?

[trueblue2007]

51. D- I could not stand her nose twitching.

Who does she think she is? A witch trying to cast a spell on America?

She als does something ugly with her mouth.

Overall, I thought she looked like an average, trampy kinda woman. Not very bright.

[Scooter24]

16. D

[yardwork]

17. D

[anigbrowl]

18. C. Started well, got lost in the middle.

Very wordy, went on and on, but short of specific policy proposals, pretty meaningless. Weak delivery.

[Hepburn]

19. D for disaster!

OMG........she is worse than the worst HS principal I have ever heard speak at a graduation.

:wow:

[kirby]

21. C n/t

[jimlup]

B+

She can read from the tel-a-promter. It had all the standard stump stuff. She did her 'job'.

[Overseas]

22. For a Republican speech? Lying all the way? B+

She made all their snide remarks with a cute little perky smile. Because she had the speech full of sarcastic punchlines, she acts like it makes her a really tough gal. Ready to lead the free world.
And she's got the crowd roaring.

Oh, Grampa Johnny dropped by to soak up some love.

[grateful581]

23. Honestly it really wasn't that special.

allot of lies, especially when she tried to bash Obama on taxes.

[depakid]

24. She passed with a C+

Got through it without any major mistkes, but didn't say or do anything above average.

By contrast, I would haven Biden a B+

[Undercurrent]

25. I think she is doing very well.

Seriously. She scares me! I had hoped and hoped she would be a huge flop.

B+

[kestrel91316]

43. She is incredibly arrogant, completely lacking in the slightest

shred of humility, given the weighty nature of her possible future job.

Did somebody tell her the VPs job is to offend and insult most of your fellow Americans? Because she sure did.

[high density]

26. we don't have enough letters in the alphabet to represent it.

[Hepburn]

27. D for disaster!

OMG........she is worse than the worst HS principal I have ever heard speak at a graduation.

:wow:

[AirmensMom]

28. B ...

For Bad. Very bad.

[noel711]

29. I'm a professional preacher... do this all the time..

Delivery ... B-

Content....F

Originality...F

Language...C

Inspiring... F

[Bobbie Jo]

30. F- followed by expulsion.

[mikelgb]

31. not over

crowd likes it

some good one liners that will become talking points

definitely not a disaster for GOP

[smoochpooch]

32. For members of her party: A- For the rest of Americans:C

She had a couple genuinely good lines, but some that were genuinely spiteful. At times she was trying to sound tough, but ended up sounding vindictive.

[ecstatic]

33. I am numb and nearly speechless. I'm sure she has rallied the base

Her ugliness rivals Ann Coulter.

[NotThisTime]

53. That's good, she won't garner sympathy when we take her down

[bushisanidiot]

34. Uhhhh.. F.

she sucked, BIG TIME!

this is the best you can come up with, pukes?? this is IT?

SERIOUSLY???

[BlueIdaho]

35. Grade - C.

Now the easy stuff is done - lets she what happens next.

[THUNDER HANDS]

36. A for delivery, F for content

she speaks well, being a trained broadcast journalist.

[Karmadillo]

37. Easily an A. A very, very effective speech.

She turned a no bounce convention into a bounce.

[City of Mills]

62. She may have re-energized Obama's base

She sure seems to have re-energized us here!

[kestrel91316]

38. H. Because it was virtual hate speech.

[ITsec]

40. E for Empty

[sandnsea]

41. Empty, Boring and Elementary

C-.

[techtrainer]

42. B+

Ran a little long. I thought the line about putting the Executive jet on ebay was effective.

[techtrainer]

44. B+

Ran a little long. I thought the line about putting the Executive jet on eBay was effective.

[mvd]

45. Well, I asked my mom and she couldn't even rate it

Said it was rude, belittling, hateful, brutal - so I give it an A for Appalling.

[K8-EEE]

64. Rude, Belittling, Hateful....

Yeah that's about right....

[blogslut]

46. C+

She didn't stumble over her words or lose her place. She got through the whole thing without any major screw-ups. However, there was no passion. No belief behind the text. And the text was not good at all.

[Armstead]

47. Style -- A -......Content D-

[PassingFair]

55. Are you marking on a curve?

Actually, I agree with your grades.

:)

[DS1]

48. B - It wasn't a speech for Democrats

[begin_within]

49. Speech had no overarching theme; was unfocused; a few witty lines. Delivery was nervous at first,

calmed down halfway through, but still surprisingly stilted, considering that she has a lot of on-camera experience.

[cynatnite]

60. It made me wonder how she would fair in a sit down interview...

without a prepared speech and teleprompters. She struck me as someone who would struggle with that.

[ShortnFiery]

54. F

[cynatnite]

56. C... delivery was shaky and she looked very rehearsed...not natural at all n/t

[mvd]

63. I just heard some clips on Malloy's show

The punch lines fell flat. And her voice doesn't have 1/100th of the maturity of Hillary's voice. She sounded petty.

[BlooInBloo]

57. I didn't even watch the speech, but I know it was an A....

Because otherwise I'd be sexist.

[City of Mills]

58. In all honesty...F

If the goal tonight was to get the Republican base to vote Republican - A

If the goal was to appeal to and attract Independants and undecideds - F

[WeDidIt]

59. Z-

[Overseas]

61. I can see the sarcastic frat boys writing this speech for her.

Gleeful about having a Cute Little Hockey Mom through which to pour their bile.

No collegiality here. No no no.
Culture war ignited here.

[greendog]

66. Delivery - C / Content - F

[951-Riverside]

67. A+

'cause we gotta stick to the issues ...and ...and shes a Mom :sarcasm:

[damndude]

69. i'll give it 2 fingers

1 from each hand

[Honeycombe8]

70. For THEM...A on delivery, D on substance. It rocked their house, so it was good. nt

[Awsi Dooger]

71. A-

The speech writer sabotaged her near the end, otherwise it was an A.

It also doesn't change anything, other than contributing to the inevitable bounce.

[chiefofclarinet]

72. Didn't watch it either, but....

I'm right now reading the transcript. The speech itself is awful. I can't imagine how much worse it can be, but apparently her saying it makes it exponentially more horrific.

It's shallow. The first 1/3 of the speech is talking about herself and her family. I know Biden and Obama did that too, but the authenticity of it is grossly missing. And this is the part with actual content...

It's going too far. Biden and Obama have been quite gentle with Palin. Even with a list of problems that approaches Bush, they haven't brought them up cruelly. Palin made snide comment after snide comment, demeaning Obama's and Biden's experience, while hypocritically telling about her "experience" as PTA board member and mayor. Talking about the hype that the MSM put on the Dems last week, and what Obama did in his speech, while practicing exactly what she accuses Obama of doing.

It's a pack of lies. She brings up the "bridge to nowhere," a bad idea when her record has her being for it before opposing it. She talks about her state's surplus, ignoring the huge deficit she left in Wasilia. She misquotes, misattributes, misstates, and just plain doesn't understand what Obama's platform is. And the talk of taxes... and terrorism... and drilling for oil the consumers won't see until 2012 at the earliest... At the very best, it's spin; at the very worst, it's slander.

It's the same ol' crap. The "Pee-Oh-Dubya" trash appears again, and again, and again. She "cleverly" alludes to 9/11, not only the date she ships out Track to "Ee-rack," but the attacks 7 years ago while she was a councilperson in Wasilia. She talks about Alaska's "hugh" supply of oil and gas. Well, we know where the gas comes from: her mouth. She talks about the scary "lib-urls" that want to raise taxes, but forgets to mention that it's for the "rich" in McCain's book not the middle class.

It's the wrong message. This is not a speech that will send women, minorities, and swing state voters to the polls for McCain/Palin. This gives Obama/Biden ammo, instead. Sure, this is a speech that will fire up the base. But, the Republicans forgot it wasn't the base that sent Dubya to another term; it was the independents that were scared of the war on "terra" and thought Kerry didn't have the power to stand up. And, they will lose the swing voters because of it.

It's just utter trash. As a college student, I have given better speeches than this, and I'm on track to be one of those "absent-minded professors" that have problems communicating with people. Any rhetoric and/or literature teacher could have given this speech better form, more content, and cleaned up parts where the message is lost. As a communications major in college, she had to go through some sort of speech writing classes. Why didn't she remember these now?

I can't believe that this is supposed the "second-best" person in the GOP.

All in all, this may have passed with an "athlete's C" in high school, and a D- in college. But, in the real world, this is a major league F.

[mmonk]

74. An FU.

[last1standing]

76. If I was grading her like a college speaker ---- D+/C-

First, I'd knock her down a grade point for being too obvious in reading from the teleprompters. At times she would do little more than read the words phonetically.

But the real hit would come from her use of fear tactics. That's a big no-no in college classes, yet it was the crux of her entire speech. That would take her from a B to the grade I listed in the title.

Now, how does it rate for the intended audience of slack-jawed neanderthals with their cravings for raw meat? A+ She gave them everything they asked for, hatred, fear, arrogance and lies. They ate it up and asked for more.

Of course the pundits gave her an A, but then they were going to rate it that way regardless. I never heard mention of the obvious lies and distortions and only KO mentioned her arrogance. So I don't put much stock in them.

The real question will be how the American people rate it and that we just don't know as yet.

[ladjf]

77. The speech was barf time.

[lakercub]

78. Depends on what your goal is

As far as a great speech...no. By no measure is it a great speech. A great speech accomplishes more than one thing. Here is what I expected her to do:

1. Fire up the base - A+
She did that and then some. But the religious right is part of the base, and mean-spirited rudeness seems to be what they want to see. WWJD? Make fun of the opposition using empty rhetoric I guess.

2. Introduce us to who she is - C
Not too many people in either party are familiar with her. Most of us on this site already knew she was a PTA hockey-mom. Now everyone knows (and knows and knows and knows...my god...we get it...and McCain was a POW too...damn it...I know). They also know a little more about her family (although, with all the potential scandals, its hard to say how much we actually learned). As for her politics we learned she is down the line Christian Conservative but we learned nothing specific about her own politics...thus this grade is lower. Which leads to...

3. Attracting undecided centrists - D-
There are probably a small amount of undecideds that liked the attack-dog nature of this speech, but I would hazard a guess that most didn't. It was vindictive, rude, arrogant, petty, and sarcastic...and if you weren't part of the choir, it would be easy for her to come across as a jerk. McCain has always wanted to change the tone in Washington, so he brings in this!!?!??! If you thought the tone was bad before wait until she brings it further into the gutter.
Also, her complete lack of specifics could not have done anything to attract centrists. They wanted to know more about her stand on the issues, and they got nothing. Admittedly, convention speeches can be pretty short on this sort of thing, but when the candidate is a complete unknown, some substance is required. Biden said that today...no mention of health care or education? Almost nothing on the economy? Sarah, there is more to running a country than demeaning your opponent.

4. Attract Hillary voters - D
There are some PUMAs that will love it, but they were inclined to love it anyway. The vast majority of undecided Hillary voters, however, got nothing from this speech. She's a woman...great...we get that. But she supports nothing that progressive women support. She offered nothing on how she helps the cause of women, except by simply being one. She is a hard-core rightie, and, as far as I'm concerned, did a great job of showing last night just how cynical her selection was. We know McCain wanted Ridge or Lieberman, but the Bush people got to him and said..."Hey, let's get a right-wing babe...the chicks will vote for her on gender alone." Most of the women I know are far too smart to fall for this, and I expect this speech may have helped in the backfiring process with left and centrist women.

So, great speech? No. And to the guy with the University of Virginia logo. Stop it. If you can actually say this speech was better than Obama's (or Michelle's) then you got into your "special plants" again. Obama's speech gave a little bit of meat to the core, while at the same time presenting a centrist message to the undecideds, and he even threw in some respect for his opponent...THAT is what makes a great speech.

[Abacus]

79. D+/C-

Good for the base, but she already had them.
May have energized a few more voters, but probably substantially less than the number independents that were turned off.

Delivery was okay. Message was B+ to the base, but solid D for gaining independents and undecideds.

[BurtWorm]

80. Compared to Giuliani's, maybe B, B-.

Compared to Biden, more in the C, C- range.

Compared to Obama? No comparison. Different ballparks. Different leagues. Different worlds.

[ObamaKerryDem]

81. F

[Butch350]

82. Whats there to grade???

Someone wrote her a canned speech - they included points that would get the crowd to cheer - they added a bunch of EMPTY
insults - she made fun of my candidate and his running mate and my party.

I give her a BIG F (U)