Republicans don't really want ot overturn Roe vs Wade

[Quixote1818]

The last thing they want is to take that issue away from themselves. It gets them votes and if it was overturned it would be a disaster. Democrats should debate them by pointing that out. They are really just as Pro-choice as Democrats.

[Dissent Is Patriotic]

1. It's a great point...but I still don't want to roll the dice with my uterus. n/t

[SocratesInSpirit]

11. Amen!

And I'm not a gambling woman, either.

[GrizzlyMan]

2. I've said this for years.

Along similar lines, the freepers think Osama Bin Laden desperately wants a Democratic president when the exact opposite is true. Radical Islam WANTS a president who is likely to engage them gratutiously (Bush/McCain), not one who is more pragmatic about his approach to use of military force (Obama).

[BlueIdaho]

3. Do not kid yourself

The Dobson crowd - rapture republicans - would love nothing more. Now that the Reagan coalition is history, they have as much chance as the fiscal conservatives of running the show over there.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

4. I think (KNOW!) that Sarah Palin and her ilk are serious....this is no game for them.

The Repub party has lost control of the tools: The nuts are running the asylum now.

[codjh9]

20. Exactly! Eisenhower and Teddy R. are spinning in their graves!!!

[madmax]

5. DING DING DING!!! n/t

[Az]

6. The NeoCon leaders and the Core GOP have no real interest in Roe V Wade

But the pawns in the religious right definitely have an interest in it. And they are getting pissed. The GOP is going to have to give them some meat soon or they are going to tear their master's throat out.

[OneGrassRoot]

8. Absolutely, and Palin is one of those religious fundies....

not merely pandering to them like Bush and McCain.

[Az]

17. She is just a bobble dangled before the religious right

She has no power in the admin McSame would build. She is just a decoration to keep the religious right placated until they can figure out how to keep them satisfied more long term without giving up their primary lure.

[OneGrassRoot]

26. But, shit happens....there are many scenarios in which...

if McCain were elected, she could become president. Sounds like she's pretty devious and brutal herself in her short career thus far.

Shuddering at the thought...yikes

[damonm]

7. I've been saying this for years...

...as well as pointing out to my RW friends that the GOP had full power for 4 years, and could have ended illegal immigration - yet did NOTHING. They don't want to lose their precious wedge issues by ACTUALLY SOLVING THE PROBLEM.

[cali]

9. I disagree. I think that used to be true, but it's not anymore. The puke party

is now characterized by extreme zealotry on this (and other issues). And actually, there's no reason to think that the SC overturning Roe and returning it to the states would be a political disaster for the pukes.

[GrizzlyMan]

12. You're confusing party followers with party leaders

Of course the followers want it gone. It's all they talk about. But the leadership? No way. It's a wonderful carrot to use when herding their sheeple.

[cali]

18. oh, I don't think so. Look, one more SC justice in the Scalia/Roberts

mold and that's it. Roe is gone.

[complain jane]

10. I agree.

[maseman]

13. You should say KARL ROVE doesn't want to overturn R v W

[orestes]

14. I think thats half right

seems to me that there are certainly those in the upper echelons of the Republican party that genuinely want to over turn it.

But the rest? Not a chance.

First, it's far to useful as a tool to whip the fundies into a lather.

Second, they don't wanna have to pay for the round trip tickets to Europe just to get an abortion when they knock up their mistresses, secretaries, or interns .

[cynatnite]

15. Scalia, Alito and Roberts...'nuff said n/t

[1corona4u]

16. Funny, that's exactly what Randi said the other day....

[archiemo]

19. EXACTLY...its the same for anti-gay marriage, anti-stem cell...

Everytime I ask a repub that says they vote repub because of their stance on anti-gay marriage, anti-gun control, anti-stem cell research, anti-abortion what their party did to put those issues to rest when they had the White House and control of the Congress they can't say one darn thing. They don't want those issues to "go away" because then the preachers and the pundits wouldn't have anything to scare the sheep with!!!!!!!!! WILL THEY EVER FRICKIN' WAKE UP????????

[Marsala]

21. Remember that overturning Roe vs. Wade would only be the beginning

Then abortion would become a matter for the states or for federal laws, which would push it even higher in national prominence.

[iamjoy]

22. Keep Telling Yourself That

we keep telling ourselves that, we keep letting that view have credence and Republicans keep winning elections!

Don't you get it? The Republicans do want to overturn Roe vs. Wade, but they realize they have to be subtle about it. They can't just put a law through Congress that life begins at conception and let that be that. Roe vs. Wade will die not with a bang, but with a whimper. It has already started.

They will continue to pass incremental laws that challenge the landmark 1973 ruling. These laws stand a good chance of being upheld because they appeal to people's sympathies or common sense (like harming a fetus while committing a crime or the so-called partial birth abortion ban). Other tactics are to pass regulations, presumably to protect the mother, that make the cost prohibitively expensive and drive abortion providers out of business. If the law fails once, they will try again with either different language and/or a different Supreme Court.

Once abortion is banned, they will keep the Fundamentalists in their voting block by taking on the next great "immorality." Is it birth control, pornography or homosexuality? I realize homosexuals are already discriminated against in that they can't get married, but what if they can't even have civil unions? What if states start passing and enforcing sodomy laws? Once SCOTUS decides we have no right to privacy after all, who knows what happens next.

Don't kid yourself, and don't let anyone vote Republican under this false pretense of "oh, they would never..."

[MessiahRp]

25. It's not about telling "yourself" that... it's about telling Republicans and Pro-Life moderates that

When given a chance to remember that Bush and the GOP held a large enough majority to pass anti-abortion laws in Congress and sat on their hands, it makes a lot of people who vote based primarily on this issue pause and think about whether or not they had been played. Those seeds of doubt mean something to the ones who struggle with other Bush policies like increasing the size of Government, elimination of the Bill of Rights, endless war with no real policy behind it and the biggest economic downturn in generations.

The proof is in the pudding. From 2001-2006 they had their shot and accomplished nothing.

Rp

[still_one]

23. sorry, but they really do. If someone tells you they want to ban abortion in all cases

if they appoint judges like scalia and thomas, and if there platform states it, believe them, they do want to make abortion illegal

this is not a game, it is exactly as it appears

[MessiahRp]

24. I say this all the time

They had six years of full control and the ability to pass any abortion prohibition laws they wanted and did nothing. They aren't really anti-abortion, they're pro-opportunistic.

Rp