Does this math look kind of weird???

[BrklynLiberal]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin

Sarah Palin eloped with her high-school boyfriend, Todd Palin, on August 29, 1988, when she was 24 years old.<6><122> Todd works for BP as an oil-field production operator<123> and owns a commercial fishing business.<24> The family lives in Wasilla.

The couple have five children: sons Track (born April 20, 1989)

[tblue]

1. Holy sh*t! She was unmarried and knocked up, too?

Oh, Sarah. The gift that keeps on giving.

[sandrakae]

5. Yea, no one can every accuse that family of practicing what they preach.

[ComplimentarySwine]

12. I thought that they supposedly preached no birth control and no abortion?

Having kids left and right seems to be evidence that they *DO* practice those ideals, no?

[BrklynLiberal]

21. Guess they forgot about the "abstinence only" type of life before marriage...

She preaches it loud and clear now.
Guess it did not work for her any better than it worked for her daughter.
It is the hypocrisy that is the point.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

44. Pattern of hypocritical family values. The more she mentions FV tonight, the more it is on table.

[tekisui]

2. It runs in the family.

[Danieljay]

3. So, Sarah Palin got pregnant out of wedlock, like her daughter, just older. Its the Hypocricy. n/t

[gcomeau]

4. Less than 8 months? Yeah, someone was knocked up. -nt

[samdogmom]

6. Her "pregnant" state at marriage has already been discussed on DU.

Nevertheless...if not pregnant at marriage, then the Palins' have a history of delivering premature babies!

[BrklynLiberal]

7. Have you considered a career in the diplomatic corps?

[samdogmom]

9. Not really. People who know me think I'm way too cynical!

Bottom line...thanks for pointing out the obvious math involved with Miss Sarah's marriage and the TRUE reason why she "romantically eloped"!!!!???!!!. I am so sick of the hypocrisy in our country--if you're a Republican you can shoot someone in the face and make it their fault...if you're a Democrat you have to apologize to the country because somehow your party let a Republican shoot someone in the face. Go figure!

(edited to make "someone" one word!)

[Egnever]

8. guess that abstinance thing is just for the little people

[Bucky]

10. You need to change your user name.

Being a snarky about other people's private lives isn't exactly "liberal". By the way, you might want to do the same math on Obama and his parents' marriage.

[samdogmom]

11. Last I checked Obama wasn't pushing "Abstinence" only education initiatives!

Who the heck cares WHY someone gets married, unless you're

1. Against sex education in schools
2. Against contraceptives
3. Against Choice
4. FOR ABSTINENCE ONLY!

Preaching abstinence and not practicing it make you a hypocrite! No forgiveness from me! Sarah preaches "Abstinence ONLY" education. SHE DID NOT PRACTICE THIS HERSELF! Where is her empathy for others who find themselves in a situation similar to hers?

[ComplimentarySwine]

13. I'm not sure that abstinence only means what you think it does

As I understand it, it means that abstinence is the only option of controlling whether or not one produces offspring. It doesn't mean that one HAS to be abstinent, only that they have no other birth-control choice other than abstinence.

[BrklynLiberal]

15. So if you want to have a child, you can have sex without being married? Do the fundies believe th

Do you think Sarah Palin is preaching that? Why did she cut funding for programs to aid unwed mothers?

[BrklynLiberal]

16. Abstinence only....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstinence-only_sex_education

Abstinence-only sex education is a form of sex education that emphasizes abstinence from sex to the exclusion of all other types of sexual and reproductive health education, particularly regarding birth control and safe sex. This type of sex education promotes sexual abstinence until marriage and either completely avoids any discussion about the use of contraceptives, or only reveals failure rates associated with such use.

Proponents of abstinence-only sex education argue that this approach is superior to comprehensive sex education (see Sex education) for several reasons. They say that sex education should emphasize teaching a morality that limits sex to that within the bounds of marriage and that sex outside marriage and at a young age has heavy physical and emotional costs.<1> They claim that comprehensive sex education encourages teen premarital sexual activity, which should be discouraged in an era when HIV and other incurable sexually transmitted infections are widespread and when teen pregnancy is an ongoing concern.

No mention of birth control. Perhaps you are thinking of the rhythm method.

[ComplimentarySwine]

24. Yeah, I didn't know abstinence only had anything to do with mariage

Maybe I've confused the two in my mind. I thought that it was just about not having sex until you wanted to have a baby.

[samdogmom]

26. Really? I stand corrected if true.

So are you saying abstinence and the rhythm method are the same????? (I truly never heard this before!!!) However, the bottom line: abstinence generally doesn't work and unplanned pregnancies are the result. I guess we can use both Sarah and her daughter Bristol as examples, if needed.

[BrklynLiberal]

29. Abstinence is meant to apply before marriage. Rhythm method is within marriage.

"Abstinence" is supposed to mean no sex before marriage.
The rhythm method is form of birth control....whether you use within marriage or not is your decision, but I believe the church meant for it to be used within marriage. They do not allow any other form of birth control.

[samdogmom]

30. Thanks! I was just trying to point out how ludicrous some of these Ms. Palin defenses are.

Bottom line: Either you believe in abstinence (before marriage) or you don't. Clearly Sarah and her husband Todd didn't believe in this. And, now we've learned Bristol and her boyfriend Levi didn't believe in abstinence either!

YET--THEY WANT TO PREACH THIS TO THE YOUTH IN AMERICA!

Bottom line, the family is composed of HUGE HYPOCRITES. Why is this so hard to understand?

[BrklynLiberal]

34. ...and that's the truth!!!!

[BrklynLiberal]

14. Did he or any of HIS kids get involved in pre-marital pregnancy?

Is HE touting abstinence only instead of comprehensive sex education and the use of contraception?

None are so blind as those who will not see. If you cannot recognize hypocrisy when you see it, I pity you.

[Left Is Write]

18. I don't think anyone really cares whether Gov Palin was pregnant when she got married.

What they care about is the blatant hypocrisy and the difference between her personal conduct and her public policy.

[BrklynLiberal]

20. BINGO!!! Hypocrisy is the subject of the post..not reproductive timing.

[Shakespeare]

28. And you should probably change yours.

To something like "Condescending and Sanctimonious."

This is about hypocrisy, and therefore utterly relevant.

[BrklynLiberal]

35. ...

;-) :thumbsup: :hi:

[AkFemDem]

17. Who the hell cares???!! Her uterus and any products of it are not the issue

Stop giving the right the power to claim "smear campaign" and "sexism".

[BrklynLiberal]

19. Hypocrisy is non-gender specific.

Part of her hypocrisy just happens to center around reproduction and the choices that we have about it...choices she would limit for everyone.

[JuniperLea]

23. Oh please... they are going to do that anyway...

Every time the InterTubes makes Sarah cry... they are already issuing pre-emptive statements!

[stillcool]

42. here's your sexism...

from the family values crew. I don't get why people are all in a dither..it's the Republican Party! Lying, Cheating, Stealing and sordid affairs are initiation.

Alaskan: Governor Babe for VP!
February 28, 2008

**RUSH: The babe is the icing on the cake aspect, something the Democrats can't claim on their side.

**CALLER: She can't take a bad picture not even from the back end.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_022808/content/01125113.guest.html

Palin's Media
FEBRUARY 26, 2008 - 12:05 PM
From Sean Cockerham in Anchorage --
http://community.adn.com/blog/24417?page=33
Sarah Palin is getting all kinds of media during her D.C. trip.

Check out this gushing piece in the American Spectator that declares "Sarah Palin, the beautiful conservative Republican governor of Alaska, would be an ideal choice to help McCain slay this unholy ObamaOprah beast."

"Gov. Palin could become the Republican Party's Segolene Royal, the French Socialist Party's glamorous leader known for her heels and political bite. She is the perfect antidote to Sen. Obama's cheap thrills, and would help rejuvenate conservatism."

[Overseas]

22. God just got a little mixed up and sent the kid before the parents were wed.

That's all. Just a little mix up in miracles.

[Erin Elizabeth]

25. Just for those who might have missed it.

It's NOT the fact that she was pregnant when she eloped that bothers anyone here. Hell, I know a lot of republicans who wouldn't give half a rat shit about that, either.

It's NOT that her 16 or 17 year old daughter is pregnant, either. I don't give a shit about that. I doubt most people really do.

It's the hypocrisy. It's ALWAYS the hypocrisy with these people. Whether they're screaming about not letting gays get married then engaging in toe tapping signals with gay guys in a bathroom, championing sexual predator legislation then getting caught with kiddies themselves, or making a huge deal out of abstinence ONLY, purity pledges and other creepy ass shit and then being pregnant on their honeymoon and having pregnant teens, it's ALWAYS the HYPOCRISY.

You can bet if a Republican is saying one thing, they are probably doing the opposite. It's a safe bet. In fact, there's been such a pattern with them, I think there should be an automatic investigation triggered anytime a Republican proposes, champions or furthers any child predator legislation.

They can talk the talk all day long, but they rarely ever walk the walk. I don't have one ounce of respect for that.

[BrklynLiberal]

27. I want to put the "applause" icon on my subject line for you...

:hi: :thumbsup: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[samdogmom]

31. Thank you! That's what I was trying to say...but my point wasn't clear!

[philly_bob]

39. BINGO! Saying one thing & doing the opposite = hypocrisy.

And just as I was reading your post, EE, this businesswoman who founded an international pretzel franchise got up at the Republican Convention and talked about how making money is not what's important, what's important is giving to others.

Yeah, those oil companies and oligopolists just don't stop giving. <SARCASM>

[adamuu]

43. Palin is all of the self-contridicitons of the whole GOP, rolled into one person n/t

[adamuu]

32. abstinence-only education + no birth control + no abortion =

Hey... where the fuck did all these damn kids come from?

edit to clarify subject line.

[adamuu]

33. "The nearest thing I can figure out is they're born pregnant"

If we don't get them off this ship, we're going to be hip deep in them.
Explain that.
The nearest thing I can figure out is they're born pregnant, which seems to be quite a timesaver.
I know, but really ...
and from my observations, it seems they're bisexual,reproducing at will. And, brother, have they got a lot of will.
Captain, I'm forced to agree with the doctor. I've been running computations on their rate of reproduction. The figures are taking an alarming direction. They're consuming our supplies and returning nothing.
But they do give us something, Mr. Spock.
They give us love.

[BrklynLiberal]

37. hahahahahaha

[TexasObserver]

36. Yes, Her family is guided by The Ten Suggestions.

They used to be The Ten Commandments, but that was sooooooooooo confining.

[BrklynLiberal]

38. :->

[City of Mills]

40. ROFL!

Good one! :rofl:

[adamuu]

41. hahah n/t

[stillcool]

45. She was 8 mos. no?

[knixphan]

46. Kick for the end of hypocrisy...

:kick: