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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:34 PM
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Just got this email from a coworker. Re Joe Biden
Anbody heard of this, can we get a verification, clarification, or debunk here?

If you Google Bruce Riddle, Rockville, MD, you get a verification of
this.
*************************************************************

Family and Friends,

I feel an obligation to honesty and truth to share with you some facts. My Father and Mother instilled in me the values and morals of treating people fairly and always being honest. If you purchase something, you pay for it. If you borrow something, you give it back.

I have been "stiffed" three times in my 30 year professional career by someone who I rendered services to, gave a finished product to, but who refused to pay for those services even though they acknowledged the services and products were correct, were what they asked for, and were never challenged for not being correct. I am lucky in having only three, but those three hurt badly.

Joe Biden was one of those people. I worked on his 1988 Presidential campaign financial disclosure engagement. I busted it for him and got everything right. He stiffed me for over $15,000 worth of work. He refused to pay once he dropped out of the race. I did similar Capitol Hill campaign financial disclosure work for Bob Dole, Pat Buchanan, and a Democratic candidate for Ambassador to New Zealand. All of those folks paid even though they lost the election or did not get the appointment. That type of work is very demanding and very tedious because your efforts are scrutinized by Congress. Biden did not care.

I am on the Board of Directors of a company that owns a majority position in a private jet management company in Northern Virginia. They manage jets for businesses and rich folks. They also charter planes to the public. This past winter John Thompson chartered over $250,000 worth of air time. He paid every penny.

Joe Biden, in his latest unsuccessful run for President, chartered over $150,000 worth of air time. He PAID ZERO. He continues to refuse to pay stating his race is over and he is out of money. He never once complained about his flights. Joe Biden is a rich man. He could pay.

Joe Biden is a liar and a cheat. I know it first hand. Character is what life is all about. Joe Biden is a man of bad character and sets a bad example for America.

I feel compelled to share this dark side of a man who asks for your vote and trust.

Best Regards,

Bruce D. Riddle, CPA, CFP
BDR Associates, LLC
2401 Research Boulevard, Suite 101
Rockville, MD 20850

Work - (240) 631-1981
Cell - (301) 580-7800

Fax - (240) 631-2778
Website - www.bdrtax.com

This can be checked out at the following website:


American Daughter Media Center - Front Page > Bruce Riddle
Lest our readers think that Bruce Riddle is a partisan Republican, check
his
public record of campaign contributions:. From City Data - ROCKVILLE, MD
...
frontpage.americandaughter.com/?tag=bruce-riddle -

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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:37 PM
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1. First of all, Joe Biden is NOT a rich man ... he's the poorest guy in the Senate
and has a net worth of $150K-$250K -- that's including any outstanding
mortgages, etc. I think he ought to have paid what he could but I don't
think it's fair to characterize Biden as a rich guy stiffing someone.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:37 PM
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2. Sounds like one sour grapes side to a three-sided story to me...
And if this were true, the GOP would have been all over it a long time ago... or not... I keep forgetting how lame they are.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:39 PM
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6. With friends like that ... who needs enemies?
Insane how some people here e-mail have e-mail communication with major wack-jobs...

...
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:57 PM
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19. I have several Repub relatives who would definitely send me this sort of thing...
IF they ever got it themselves... weird how I never get this sort of thing... double weird that this guy's personal contact info is included here... this whole thing smells ratty.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:17 PM
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33. The date on the original Yahoo Message board page is Aug. 31 2008
It might not have made it around to them. Things like this take a little time to build before they explode.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:38 PM
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3. Tell him to say hello to Roger Stone for me
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sadbear Donating Member (799 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:38 PM
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4. Joe certainly isn't a rich man
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Madam Mossfern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:39 PM
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5. Did you bother to look at the website that this came from?
http://welcome.americandaughter.biz/?p=1

I'm tempted to alert your post, but I'm waiting for an explanation.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:41 PM
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8. If they don't come back with an explanation, I think we all should hit the alert..
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 03:42 PM by larissa
.

Very odd thread.
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:41 PM
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9. They never do. Nice post. n/t
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:41 PM
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10. Interesting.........n/t
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:45 PM
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14. Go ahead and alert me, I've been here since 2003 and have over 3200 posts
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 03:48 PM by apnu
But thanks for thinking I'm a troll. I thought we were all on the same team here. I come for help and this is what I get?

I did get this email from a coworker, and I do want to know if there is truth to this story or not. Would you like to see the email headers?

I know full well the what that site is, but if you Google that guy you'll find that this story is every where. So its not just them, and its not me messing with you.

But its the first I heard of it and came here for insight. If you don't have anything constructive to say, why waste your time posting?

(on edit, below)

Here is the source link sited by the American Daughter Media Center: http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_(A_to_Z)/Stocks_G/threadview?m=tm&bn=7923&tid=451999&mid=452071&tof=26&off=1

Looks like they didn't start off running the story but found it in Google.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:56 PM
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18. yes please share the email headers I would be more than happy to forward all kinds of crap to
your wingnut friends
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timber84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:05 PM
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23. apnu is NOT a troll n/t
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:56 PM
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17. Pay no attention to apnu...he despises Obama and is actively working for a GOP victory
Best to ignore him.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:59 PM
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20. Really? I am? Prove it.
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timber84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:07 PM
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25. pretty fucking bad that du member who have been here for four
years are now being called trolls, what is with the paranoia. If you had just signed up yesterday yeah maybe but four fucking years?

:grr:
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:15 PM
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31. Thanks Timber84
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:20 PM
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34. Thanks for the link
so much for credibility.
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:40 PM
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7. Every political donation this Riddle guy made was to Hillary
Anyone see a pattern here? Disappointed Hillary supporter dumping on Biden.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:42 PM
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11. Desperate need to go on the attack, rather than be on the defensive.
Now, back to Palin and McCain's serious lack of judgment.
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:42 PM
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12. Yes checkout some of the content on the website that published this screed
There's another part of the answer.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:49 PM
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15. Here is the source link they cite
http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_(A_to_Z)/Stocks_G/threadview?m=tm&bn=7923&tid=451999&mid=452071&tof=26&off=1

Granted this could be some guy just making stuff up, but that link is the 3rd unique hit in Google if you look for "Bruce D. Riddle, campaign donations"
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:43 PM
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13. One Thing Is Certain
Bruce Riddle wants John McCain to be elected.

If this story is true, I don't blame Riddle for being mad at Biden. Supposedly, Riddle only intended this to go to a small circle of family and friends. BUT, if that is true, he was acting like an idiot. He should have known some one, some where would circulate this widely. I don't care about his record of campaign contributions, I mean, check out Joe Lieberman's contributions - mostly Democrats and yet he is fighting hard for McSame to be elected.

the timing of this coming out is convenient to be sure...
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:11 PM
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27. He ain't that smart.
I found what is supposidly his posting that started this whole thing here.

Its fascinating to read the rest of the comments below it. Check out rpfleak's call on bullshit, and then orsino@swbe...'s smack down.

Either way, he posted openly in a Stock form that's going to live forever in the Google cache if not Yahoo's too. And what's worse he put in his name, address, phone numbers and websites. Forum Thugs, and spammers all over are going to abuse the hell out of him now.
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Minimus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:54 PM
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16. I called his office and got voicemail - I didn't leave a message. I may call back in the AM.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:01 PM
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21. Checked Switchboard
Here's what I found

Bruce D Riddle
11355 MORNING GATE DR
ROCKVILLE, MD 20852
(301) 881-1740
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:02 PM
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22. They needed to counter the lady who told us about Sarah the Baracuda
And this was the best they could find. Joe owes someone money for campaign expenses and hasn't paid it off yet.

Still owing money for campaign expenses is far different from being a vindictive mayor and governor, as reported about Sarah the Baracuda.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:06 PM
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24. Oh yet another email hit job. You need to get one of those Bullshit Blockers
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:15 PM
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29. Right, and that's why I came here before I called bullshit on it.
The guy's one my bosses. I can't call bullshit on him unless I can shut him down right away. One small crack and its no good.

I've been trying to dig up some data on the debts of the other Presidential contenders on both sides but haven't found much. I heard that Rudy racked up a pretty penny and his net worth blows Joe Biden's out of the water.

I did find this nice AP article showing that Biden is, at best, upper middle class in income.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:15 PM
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30. (self delete, dupe post)
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 04:16 PM by apnu
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:10 PM
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26. You need to forward this to the Obama camp....
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 04:15 PM by 1corona4u
seems like they(pukes) are starting to dish dirt...

Further more, Joe isn't even done paying his campaign debt, which if this is true, would be a part of that. I can't remember Joe ever flying anywhere in the primaries though, and in fact, during the worst part of the winter, he was DRIVING from Chicago to Iowa!!!
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:16 PM
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32. I'd love to, where can I do that?
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votetastic Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:20 PM
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35. from fight the smears website..
forward the email to: watchdog@barackobama.com
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 07:41 PM
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39. Submitted, thanks (nt)
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:21 PM
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36. Just go to the website, contact them, and copy and paste it
tell them you just got it in an email.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:13 PM
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28. Hasn't hit Snopes yet. "a Democratic candidate for
Ambassador to New Zealand". I call BS. Ambassadors are appointed, not elected.

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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:26 PM
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37. I'm going to dig into this guy...
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 04:29 PM by 1corona4u
but FEC shows;

RIDDLE, BRUCE MR.
ROCKVILLE, MD 20850
B.D.R. ASSOCIATES/CPA

BUSH, GEORGE W
VIA BUSH-CHENEY '04 (PRIMARY) INC
03/31/2004 250.00 24991104356


Go figure.

Interesting from open secrets;

RIDDLE, BRUCE D
ROCKVILLE,MD 20852 BDR ASSOC/CPA 3/31/07 $4,600 Clinton, Hillary (D)
RIDDLE, BRUCE D
ROCKVILLE,MD 20852 BDR ASSOC/CPA 3/31/07 $2,300 Clinton, Hillary (D)
RIDDLE, BRUCE D
ROCKVILLE,MD 20852 BDR ASSOC/CPA 3/31/07 $2,300 Clinton, Hillary (D)
RIDDLE, BRUCE D
ROCKVILLE,MD 20850 BDR ASSOCIATES LLC/CPA 9/12/06 $2,100 Clinton, Hillary (D)
RIDDLE, BRUCE D
ROCKVILLE,MD 20850 BDR ASSOCIATES LLC/CPA 9/12/06 $1,900 Clinton, Hillary (D)
RIDDLE, BRUCE D
ROCKVILLE,MD 20852 12/7/07 $-2,300 Clinton, Hillary (D)
RIDDLE, BRUCE D
ROCKVILLE,MD 20852 12/7/07 $-2,300 Clinton, Hillary (D)
RIDDLE, BRUCE D
ROCKVILLE,MD 20852 5/16/07 $-4,600 Clinton, Hillary (D)
RIDDLE, BRUCE D MR
ROCKVILLE,MD 20852 3/13/08 $-1,900 Clinton, Hillary (D)
RIDDLE, BRUCE D MR
ROCKVILLE,MD 20852 3/13/08 $-2,100 Clinton, Hillary (D)
RIDDLE, BRUCE MR
ROCKVILLE,MD 20850 B.D.R. ASSOCIATES/CPA 3/31/04 $250 Bush, George W (R)
RIDDLE, MARGARET
ROCKVILLE,MD 20852 DMI DEVELOPMENT INC/CONTROLLER 3/31/07 $2,300 Clinton, Hillary (D)
RIDDLE, MARGARET
ROCKVILLE,MD 20852 DMI DEVELOPMENT INC/CONTROLLER 3/31/07 $2,300 Clinton, Hillary (D)
RIDDLE, MARGARET
ROCKVILLE,MD 20852 12/7/07 $-2,300 Clinton, Hillary (D)
RIDDLE, MARGARET
ROCKVILLE,MD 20852 12/7/07 $-2,300 Clinton, Hillary (D)


So, what's his motivation?? Maybe he is king Puma?
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:32 PM
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38. Politicians with unpaid campaign bills are not horrible awful terrible news.
It really is boring stuff that is probably true about most candidates. The campaign will pay its bills as soon as it can.

Normal stuff.

Did we forget the millions Hillary still owed after her campaign ended?
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