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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 10:17 AM
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Republicans crowing how Sarah Palin 'stood up to Big Oil.'
Truly priceless! Just heard yet another Republican, the former governor of New York, George Pataki, repeat this talking point on MSNBC.

Whom do they think they are kidding!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 10:18 AM
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1. truth has no place in politics
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 10:20 AM
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2. "Whom do they think they are kidding!"
The same people bush*/cheney/rove kidded in 2000 & 2004.
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flakey_foont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 10:21 AM
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3. I thought hubs worked for BP
how exactly did she stand up to Big Oil? enquiring minds want to know
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:10 AM
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14. Her husband does still work for a foreign oil company
Sending our money overseas.

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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 10:27 AM
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4. I thought I read that at one point she was in favor of a windfall profits tax
on big oil. Sounds like she's got a little lefty in her after all.
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:35 AM
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18. Not just for it, she pushed it through to balance the AK budget
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2008/08/sarah_palin_and_taxes.html

SARAH PALIN AND TAXES....Let's talk policy! And to make it even more interesting, let's talk tax policy!

So here's an interesting thing about Alaska governor Sarah Palin: she's a tax raiser. Last September she proposed a new state tax plan called ACES, and by November she had successfully pushed it through the Alaska legislature in a special session. ACES had two goals. First, it replaced a year-old plan called PPT that was mired in corruption and was widely distrusted. No problem there. Second, it was designed to increase revenue. PPT had raised revenues by $1 billion, but that was still less than everyone expected. So Palin's plan increased that by another $700 million.

But it gets even more interesting. ACES, of course, is a tax on the oil industry, since that's how the rugged individualists up north fund themselves. (In addition to massive infusions of federal cash, that is.) And it had three basic provisions:


* An increase in the basic tax rate on oil company profits from 22.5% to 25%.


* A windfall profits provision. When oil prices went over $50/barrel or so, the tax rate would rise 0.2% for each dollar.


* A tax floor. If oil prices fell below about $40/barrel, oil companies would still have to pay 10% of the gross price of the crude they produce.


Palin was especially dedicated to the windfall profits provision, or "progressiveness," as she calls it.

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Maine-i-acs Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 10:38 AM
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5. Stood up to Big Oil, thrust out her pasty hand, pocketed a check, and sat back down. (nt)
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 10:39 AM
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6. This is analogous to Gov. *'s campaign claim...
...that he had "stood up to the big trial lawyers." By standing up for the big corporations, of course.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 10:42 AM
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9. Not really
One is simply reframing the truth in a way more favorable to him. The other is swearing blind that black is white. But then Repugs are good at that. "We make our own reality".
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 10:59 AM
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12. Both are black-is-white claims. n/t
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:08 AM
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13. It's not the same
The analogue would be if * said that he was standing up to big corporations when he was really shilling for them. The "standing up to trial lawyers" thing is just a way of spinning the truth, rather than outright reversing it.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:22 AM
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16. * was outright reversing it.
He claimed to be standing up to those "big trial lawyers" when he was merely doing the bidding of corporate cronies. The former might have implied some courage; the latter demonstrates its absence.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 10:39 AM
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7. HUH?? She is a total oil corp. ass kiss. What are they talking about?? n/t
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 10:40 AM
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8. Careful - the ridiculous, when repeated enough times, becomes fact!
They are going full force and if someone doesn't put a stop to it, it WILL become "the truth".
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 10:42 AM
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10. *snort* I guess that pipeline thing is a non-story, eh? Forget that her dh works for them. nt
It's such a non-issue.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 10:43 AM
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11. she stood up after getting off her knees?
What a miserable excuse for a politician. It's one thing to oppose something you truly don't support, quite another to pretend that you are for things you are against!
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:15 AM
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15. So we can thank her for high gas prices?
Isn't that what the GOP does when ever anyone tries to stand in way of the oil companies?
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:29 AM
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17. The same wingnuts that have been screaming for years that
anyone who dares to criticize Big Oil is a Socialist/Communist/moron/tinfoil-hatted conspiracy theorist? Those Republicans? Really? ;)
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:37 AM
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19. Party before country... they don't care what it is... if the RNC says it's good, they'll agree.
They are idiots.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:39 AM
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20. While outsourcing a redundant pipeline using tens of billions of Alaska's taxpayer money?
She's doing to Alaska what she did to the small town of Wasilla where she saddled the residents with a $20M debt for something they didn't need.

SHE'S ANOTHER BUSH.
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