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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:06 PM
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Just heard the Ny Times was wrong
and that Palin was NOT a member of the AIP group. oops.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:07 PM
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1. But her husband was....and she was as well.
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:08 PM
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6. No she wasn't
The chairwoman of AIP that was quoted saying the Palin was a member was wrong. the NY Times is retracting its story.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:11 PM
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15. Could've fooled me.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:19 PM
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24. Sorry, there are enough valid reasons that she's unfit - this isn't one of them.
As Gov she is welcoming the "competition" of the Indy Party & drawing lines of commonality between the parties. Just a little bit of toadying.

Nothing to see here folks, move along.

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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:21 PM
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26. That's not true. Where did you get your info? n/t
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:10 PM
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11. AIP thinks she was, according to the video.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:07 PM
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2. Nope, its on tape..... too late.
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:07 PM
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3. She attended their meetings
She is just trying to cover up now.
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:10 PM
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10. She went to their meetings but was not a member.... ok, got the memo.
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:13 PM
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18. I take it on Lynette & Dexter Clark's word that Palin was a member
I know them personally and can vouch for them.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:23 PM
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28. We just need solid proof other than the video addressing. Her signing something or a picture of her
with them. I definitely think she was a member.
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glancingthefuture Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:30 PM
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32. Heresay. better get the facts.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:34 PM
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34. But according to Hannity, Obama has terrorist ties because
he was once in the same room with William Ayers (never mind that he was never actually convicted of anything related to terrorism or anything else)! :crazy:
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shey1218 Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:07 PM
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4. we heard the truth ourselves on that video remember
their leader said she had been a member
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:09 PM
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9. It was their President that said the info was wrong. I have no idea what the
truth is, but when the Prez of an org. admits they were wrong, it sure does put doubt out there!
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:14 PM
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19. NO, the CHAIRMAN of the AIP said Palin WAS a member
...and that Palin's actions are like "a cat covering up it's own crap in a litter box"
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:08 PM
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5. Shit happens. Better to accept being wrong than deny reality.
We had a reasonable basis for believing she was a member; turned out the AIP people are a bunch of liars or believe their own fantasies.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:10 PM
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12. I believe the AIP: people -- she's the known liar and thief
No wonder the GOP loves her.
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:08 PM
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Doesn't explain the statements from the chairwoman and the youtube of
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 11:08 PM by Arrowhead2k1
that prospector dude saying she was infact AIP... :shrug:

Something's fishy.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:08 PM
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7. The Chairwoman of the party said she was
The RNC says she wasn't. Hmmmm
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:09 PM
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8. Someone is lying. And Toddster was a member.
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pookieblue Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:10 PM
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13. even if she wasn't....
isn't her husband still a member? At least up until now?
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:10 PM
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14. Her husband has been a member
Palin's primary mentor throughout her political career, Wally Hickel was the AIP's former candidate for President before he became the Republican Governor of Alaska. Palin attended their meetings and even spoke there this year. Who actually is saying that Palin wasn't a member? Is it the current head of the AIP party? Or is it the head of the AIP party during the time she allegedly was a member, in the mid-1990s, the one who said Palin's denial of membership was "hooey"?

I for one would like to know if Palin or her husband ever contributed money to AIP candidates in their election efforts.
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:12 PM
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16. gop is trying to "dan rather" the nyt and anyone else who dares cover this story.
they want to scare-off ANY negative reporting about palin as being unreliable.

good luck on that one.
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:15 PM
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21. It saddens me to see everyone on MSNBC tonight just taking the GOPs word for it
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 11:16 PM by Arrowhead2k1
and merely brushing this aside. I thought they were smarter than this. I hope somebody is doing some serious digging behind the scenes on this and gets to the truth. Palin being a member of the AIP is simply unacceptable and needs immediate attention.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:13 PM
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17. Troopergate is in the process of being squelched.
We'll be seeing a lot more of this stuff in the next few days. All the 'rumors' will have been proven to be false. People will retract their statements, or say they were misquoted. The Republicans have decided that Palin will be their VP.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:18 PM
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23. Yep--the GOP goons are up in Alaska now, straightening everyone out
and spending massive amounts of hush money and running the shredders. The stuff that leaked out will all be retracted, the lawyers and spinmeisters will take over, and the media will play along, and that will be that. And the American people will believe that this woman is a moderate Reformer With Results, with more experience than God himself.
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the Sundance Kid Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:15 PM
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20. sorry Johnny Repuke, she's a member and has attended their conventions
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 11:16 PM by the Sundance Kid
way to vet your VP, by the way ;)
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GrizzlyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:18 PM
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22. Translation: Palin's goons got to her and made her an offer she couldn't refuse
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:20 PM
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25. so now the AIP is changing its story.
"interesting".....
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:22 PM
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27. So it's okay to go to a secessionist party's meetings, to even speak at them,
to frequent them, to have their husband actually join up, and to become so well known that everyone assumes you are a member, as long as you don't officially join by registering to vote for their candidates. So I guess a political candidate can attend KKK meetings, speak at them, have their spouse become a member and it's all okay.

The level of journalism in this country continues to astound me in its breakthtaking incompetence and timidity.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:29 PM
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31. Regarding security clearance... isn't just ASSOCIATING with them enough?
This isn't dead.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:27 PM
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29. I'm disappointed in you

but I guess you don't know how to use DU or the internet.


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ComplimentarySwine Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:27 PM
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30. Voting registration released
According to the news tonight, the RNC released her voting registration cards showing that she has been a republican in response to the AIP story.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:32 PM
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33. And The Chinese Olympic Gymnasts Were 16 y/o.......nt
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:38 PM
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35. at the very, very least she was closely associated, she attended their convention in 1994 and 2006
And addressed their convention in 2008 and her husband Todd was registered AIP until 2002



September 2, 2008, 10:32 pm
Alaska Party Official Says Palin Was Not a Member
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/alaska-party-official-says-palin-was-not-a-member/
By The New York Times
The chairwoman of an Alaskan political party that advocates a vote on the state’s succession from the union said Tuesday that she had been mistaken when she said Gov. Sarah Palin was a member of the group.

A front-page story in The New York Times on Tuesday and articles in other news media reported that Ms. Palin was a member of the Alaska Independence Party for two years in the 1990’s.

The information in the Times article was based on a statement issued Monday night by Lynette Clark, the party’s chairwoman, who said that Ms. Palin joined the party in 1994 and in 1996 changed her registration to Republican.

On Tuesday night, Ms. Clark said that her initial statement was incorrect and had been based on erroneous information provided by another member of the party whom she declined to identify. The McCain campaign also disputed the Times report, saying that Ms. Palin had been registered consistently as a Republican.

After checking the party’s archives, Ms. Clark said that she could find no documentation that Governor Palin had been a member of the party. She said Ms. Palin attended the party’s 1994 and 2006 conventions and provided a video-taped address as governor to the 2008 convention.

Ms. Clark said that Ms. Palin’s husband, Todd, was a former member of the party.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/alaska-party-official-says-palin-was-not-a-member/



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