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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:05 PM
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Is there any proof yet that Palin was ever a member of the AIP? Please post it here
So far we only have proof for her husband
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:07 PM
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1. We have un sworn statements of other members of AIP
and we have one videotaped meeting where Sarah is sitting and listening, another where she addresses the meeting and gives very supportive statements (but never says that she belongs to AIP)
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:12 PM
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2. so we have an AIP video where they say she is a member, she is present and she doesnt deny it?
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 10:13 PM by bushmeat
Thats about as strong a case as it can get with out actual documents isn't it?
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:19 PM
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4. Not quite...
there are statements made by other self identified AIPers where they SAY she was a member, but then... do they speak for the "organization"? Are they in a position to actually know? Or is it that they saw her at the meetings (which we do have video on) and assumed (as we have) that she was a member. It's possible she attended meetings with her spouse, who IS a registered member of AIP.

But the real question is would anyone trust Obama if Michelle actually attended the meetings of the Black Panthers (which is just silly, but similar has been put out there as a smear by the right wing whackjobs)???

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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:26 PM
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7. She recorded a specially made welcome message for their convention.
It's on video. Why do that if you're not sympathetic to their cause at the VERY least?
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:37 PM
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9. Hey, the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming

but the evidence in the form of a membership listing or something is still missing.

However, if someone gets a person who IS a member to make an affidavit attesting to her membership...
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:31 PM
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10. Hm, interesting point.
:D
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 06:13 AM
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15. ew didnt assume. there was a woman on the council? who said she was a member
sht took it back

isnt that correct?
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 07:15 AM
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17. Do you have the video to this by chance?
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:14 PM
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3. Earlier DU thread
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:25 PM
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6. Thanks, Jane I just kicked
that one up.

This is from Congressman Frank Pallone, 6th District of New Jersey.

PM7nj (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-02-08 02:52 PM
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Congressman Frank Pallone (on Palin and AIP): Treason
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 02:53 PM by PM7nj

Treason
by: Congressman Frank Pallone
Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 01:47:59 PM EDT
This is an extraordinary indictment of Sarah Palin by Rep. Frank Pallone, and he calls it straight. - promoted by Rosi

Many in the chattering class have been talking about Governor Sarah Palin's qualifications to be Vice President to the 72-year-old Republican nominee for president, John McCain (the oldest to ever take office). It does not matter to me that her daughter is pregnant or that her husband received a D.U.I. nearly 30 years ago. All families go through struggles in their personal lives and should be able to do so with a level of privacy and respect.

What is important to me, however, is that in the previous decade she was a member of a political party - the Alaskan Independence Party - that advocated a vote that would allow the secession of Alaska from the United States of America.

In a message to Congress on July 4, 1861, President Abraham Lincoln said about attempts by the Southern States to secede that, "the States have their status in the Union, and they have no other legal status. If they break from this they can only do so against law and by revolution."

Allowing the potential Vice President of the United States, next in line to the presidency of our republic, to be someone that believes states have a legal right to secede from our union would be akin to allowing a member of the Parti Québécois to become Prime Minister of Canada or a Scottish National Party member to become Prime Minster of the United Kingdom.

While it may sound alarmist and overly dramatic, as someone who has sworn an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic," I find it extremely troubling that the country Ms. Palin would presume to lead as next in line to the Presidency, apparently wasn't good enough for her to be a part of. It is this, more than anything else, which speaks to her lack of qualification to be Vice President of the United States.


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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:21 PM
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5. What proof do her handlers have that she was a Republican?
Apparently, they have one piece of paper that constitutes her registration with the Republican Party in 1990. However, it's claimed that she became a member of the AIP in 1994. Did she change her registration? Her 1990 Republican registration doesn't disprove that. If we had a complete copy of her record from the registrar of voters in Alaska in every place she has lived, maybe it would prove the matter once and for all. But supposedly, the records in the county where Wasilla is located weren't kept and do go far enough back.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:28 PM
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8. a journalist in 2006 said she was "libertarian", also. n/t
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 05:45 AM
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11. This seems like the most complete take on it - I hope we get some sworn affidavits!
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 05:50 AM
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12. at the very, very least, she was close to them, attended their convention in 1994 and 2006
And addressed their convention in 2008 and her husband Todd was registered AIP until 2002

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/alaska-party-official-says-palin-was-not-a-member/
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 05:52 AM
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13. If We go solely by voter registration, Bob Novak is a Democrat.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 06:04 AM
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14. and so is Richard Perle
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 06:04 AM by Douglas Carpenter
when it comes to fringe parties, it is not unusual for people to be active supporters and effectively members, but not registered.

Only a very small percentage of active supporters of the American Communist Party are or were ever registered as Communist.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 06:18 AM
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16. Exactly HOW
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 06:20 AM by symbolman
does a person Post PROOF?

Is that even Possible? Is a Newspaper link Proof? Which paper constitutes Proof? A Xerox that's been scanned? I always find this interesting, as to what constitutes "proof" and to whom.. :)
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 07:30 AM
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18. Since you have family members involved, couldn't you just ask them
if Palin is a member?.?.?

Wouldn't they be able to confirm whether or not she is?.?.?

What do they think of her?.?.?

Do they like her and therefore be protective of her?.?.?

Certainly if she were a member they would have paperwork stating her membership.


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