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RollWithIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:29 PM
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Gift from Fred Thompson....McCain when tortured gave the names of the Green Bay Packers.....
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/07/in-pennsylvania.html

{i}Yesterday in Pittsburgh, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., professed his love for the Steelers to KDKA-TV.

Asked what first comes to his mind when he thinks of Pittsburgh, McCain chuckled, "the Steelers. I was a mediocre high school athlete but I loved and adored the sports but the Steelers really made a huge impression on me particularly in my early years."

And then McCain told a rather moving story about his time as a P.O.W. "When I was first interrogated and really had to give some information because of the pressures, physical pressures on me, I named the starting lineup, defensive line of the Pittsburgh Steelers as my squadron mates."

"Did you really?" asked the reporter.

"Yes," McCain said.

"In your POW camp?" asked the reporter.

"Yes," McCain said.

"Could you do it today?" asked the reporter.

"No, unfortunately," McCain said.

Here's one reason he likely couldn't do it today -- the Steelers aren't the team whose defensive line McCain named for his Vietnamese tormentors. The Green Bay Packers are. At least according to every previous time McCain has told this story. And the McCain campaign just told ABC News that the senator made a mistake -- it was, indeed, the Packers.

In McCain's best-selling 1999 memoir “Faith of My Fathers,” McCain writes:

“Once my condition had stabilized, my interrogators resumed their work. Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate my medical treatment if I did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave them my ship’s name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant. Pressed for more useful information, I gave the names of the Green Bay Packers offensive line, and said they were members of my squadron. When asked to identify future targets, I simply recited the names of a number of North Vietnamese cities that had already been bombed.”
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:30 PM
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1. How's he polling in Wisconsin?
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:32 PM
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6. I'm trying to decide if that will help him in Minnesota.
Vikings fans may like that he tried to turn the Packers over to the North Vietnamese.
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timber84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:30 PM
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2. Steeler Nation will remember that.
don't fuck with a steeler fan!
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:31 PM
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3. :-p
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:31 PM
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4. Fred's not right in the head and he
sounds violent.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:32 PM
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5. Happens to me all the time . . . I'll be deep into one of my best stories . . .
And realize that when I meant to say "Apple" I accidentally said "Volkswagen."

Takes quite a bit of backing and filling to get out of a hole like that.
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RollWithIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:48 PM
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9. Well, you aren't running for President of the United States of America... nt
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:32 PM
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7. The Steelers were a losing team up until the Chuck Noll team of the 1970s
At which time McCain was out of high school. So what "huge impression" did they make?
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:15 PM
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10. The same impression ABBA could have made on him before he went to prison
even though they didn't form until 1970, and none of their songs was released in the United States before 1974, the year after he was released.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:34 PM
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8. Why would the Vietnamese interrogators ask for anybody's NAMES?
It's completely absurd. They needed to know target information, schedule variations, altitudes, and ordinance in order to better prepare their air defenses. They didn't need to know anybody's names. This is just dumb.
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