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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:09 PM
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Palin's pastor : "Jesus himself operated from that position of war mode"

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/

Let’s break the vacuum seal on that latest can, shall we? (giant sucking sound, behold worms) This is from Ed Kalnins, the senior pastor of Wasilla Assembly of God. pPalin attended here for most of her adult life, until her new affiliation with a similar church in the state’s capitol, Juneau:

What you see in a terrorist — that’s called the invisible enemy. There has always been an invisible enemy. What you see in Iraq, basically, is a manifestation of what’s going on in this unseen world called the spirit world. … We need to think like Jesus thinks. We are in a time and a season of war, and we need to think like that. We need to develop that instinct. We need to develop as believers the instinct that we are at war, and that war is contending for your faith. … Jesus called us to die. You’re worried about getting hurt? He’s called us to die. Listen, you know we can’t even follow him unless you are willing to give up your life. … I believe that Jesus himself operated from that position of war mode. Everyone say “war mode.” Now you say, wait a minute Ed, he’s like the good shepherd, he’s loving all the time and he’s kind all the time. Oh yes he is — but I also believe that he had a part of his thoughts that knew that he was in a war.

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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:11 PM
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1. We need to get these people on our olympic gymnastics team
I mean their ability to twist and turn would put a 14 year old Chinese girl to shame.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:17 PM
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3. Video of Palin at the church (2 minutes into video)
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:15 PM
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2. Well, he wouldn't be the first to mistake Jesus' portrait for Ted Nugent. n/t
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:21 PM
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4. Batshit crazy.
He's called you to die? You won't be missed. In fact, why are you still here? Uncle Sam and Jesus have an M-16 for YOU!
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:23 PM
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5. Woot - he's the Republican Jeremiah Wright.
although somehow I suspect we won't see him on endless 96 hour loop.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:28 PM
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6. The church's website is down...
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 07:28 PM by rainbow4321
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/palin-is-lawyered-up-and-ready-to-joust/#comments

MH (12:07:45) :


And via metafilter, their church, beseiged with people wanting to review posted-online sermons because some of the stuff within is the stuff of Jeremiah Wright part II, has now taken all their content offline.
http://www.wasillaag.net/all.html

Dare I hope anybody got there first and saved some of those files? They appeared to have all their sermons for YEARS on that site.

Bet the server doesn’t come up again for a good long 70 days or so.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:46 PM
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7. I guess that whole "Prince of Peace" thing was just good PR
:eyes:
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:48 PM
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8. Palestinian Attack In Israel Part of God's Judgment, Said Recent Guest At Palin's Church
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 07:50 PM by rainbow4321
http://www.the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=4170


http://wasillabible.org/sermons.htm


In a talk entitled "The Jerusalem Dilemma," Brickner also went on to describe all of the problems in the Middle East as related to Jerusalem. "But what we see in Israel, the conflict that is spilled through the Middle East, really which is all about Jerusalem, is an ongoing reflection of the fact that there is judgment," Brickner told Palin's church, adding: "Judgment is very real and we see it played out on the pages of the newspapers and on the television. It's very real. When Isaac (Brickner's son) was in Jerusalem he was there to witness some of that judgment, some of that conflict, when a Palestinian from East Jerusalem took a bulldozer and went plowing through a score of cars, killing numbers of people. Judgment -- you can't miss it."

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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:49 PM
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9. Jesus Jihad?
mmmm...kay.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:50 PM
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10. Oh Dog! Another RW Whacko Who Thinks her Political Career was a Call from G-d!
As for his former congregant and current vice presidential candidate, Kalnins has asserted that Palin's election as governor was the result of a "prophetic call" by another pastor at the church who prayed for her victory. " a prophetic declaration and then unfolds the kingdom of God, you know."

Even Palin expressed surprise at that pastor's advocacy for her candidacy. "He was praying over me," she said in June. "He's praying, 'Lord make a way, Lord make a way...' And I'm thinking, this guy's really bold, he doesn't even know what I'm gonna do, he doesn't know what my plans are, and he's praying not, 'Oh Lord, if it be your will may she become governor,' or whatever. No, he just prayed for it. He said, 'Lord, make a way, and let her do this next step.' And that's exactly what happened. So, again, very very powerful coming from this church."
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 08:03 PM
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11. Now what? Jesus-was-a-warmonger-gate"?
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 08:06 PM
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12. Gee, I must have missed the part about the war mode in the Sermon on the Mount
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