Tweety the other night on Maher

[PCIntern]

was denigrating those people who said that they would rather have a beer with * than Kerry, etc. And poked fun at the poll question and ridiculed those who thought that * would ever have a beer with them - that they were voting for their President, not their drinking buddy. He went on to say that if you want pre-emptive war and a deficit economy, you can vote for * but if you want change and sanity, (he didn't use that word, but implied that), then you can vote for Kerry. he couldn't understand how anyone could be undecided.

What I can't understand is how he has the temerity to say all this on HBO, but then go back to MSGOP and say how likeable and engaging Bush is, with that stupid nervous, short laugh.

He was also saying how he and Maher were two tough journalists, and everyone else was just a pantywaist, an infotainment specialist, masquerading as a reporter. So he thinks he's a great journalist, eh...?

He was simply pandering to the liberal audience who attends and watches Maher - that he didn't want to be booed like that idiot Rohrbacher who spent the whole show with his arms folded and sneering at the crowd. I had to admit that the newlywed Ashleigh Banfield not only looked great, but she was eminently reasonable and surprisingly anti-bush. Dyson from U of Penn did a great job as well.

But it's all preaching to the choir, unfortunately.

[Eurobabe]

1. caught the last 1/2 hr of the show

definitely a good one! Watching Rorhabacher made me think we should fire ALL of congress and get some fresh ideas in the house. What a complete idiot that guy is?! How the heck did CA get him?

[PCIntern]

2. God only knows...

you should se the dork who's my congressman. They redistricted here in PA and we have a no-name schmuck now - they cleverly divided the Montgomery County area and gerrymandered the region to guarantee the schmuck-of-the-decade club will remain intact here, as they began to lose the suburbs of Philly.

Our guy makes Rohrbacher look like Winston Churchill.

[Joy Anne]

7. who's your dork?

Redistricting in the Harrisburg area to ensure a safe Republican seat gave the district instead a Democrat, Tim Holden, now challenged, after a furious 6-way primary, by JoePa's feckless son (25% in the primary), which might have worked if JoePa's relentless Republican campaigning for Bush hadn't ruined Penn State football. (What decent Democratic parents would allow their son to be recruited by JoePa?)

[tedoll78]

3. I'd like to be a fly on the wall at MSNBC..

just to hear how the producers/executives put limits on what and how Matthews can say things. I wonder if he puts-up a fight for some topics, and if his editors absolutely forbid him using certain talking points/facts/etc.

Hell, I wonder that about most talking heads on television. With the exception of Jon Stewart, of course.. :)

[hadrons]

4. don't forget Matthews ragging on Fox viewers ....

he liked them to the sleazy Jack Nicholson character in Carnal Knowledge who visits the same prostitute and wants everything (the sex, the conversation, etc) to be exactly the same everytime

[mandyky]

5. Matthews DID NOT say how tough he and Bill were

Bill Maher did - and what Bill asked (paraphrased) was "I think people like you (CM) and me have trouble getting guests on because we ask the tough follow up questions." Then Bill gave an example and tried to get Chris to agree.

While Chris Matthews can be maddeding, let's give him some credit when he earns it. I loved his "think 20 years out" rant.

[PCIntern]

6. I was paraphrasing of course

but their theses were congruent - that they're both 'tough' and others arent' because they don't ask real follow-up questions.

The point was, that Tweety, appearing on what is perceived as a 'liberal' show (show's you how far we've gone down the tubes in 40 years) acted like a 'fellow traveler'.

[Joy Anne]

8. Maher's converted?

He had been a wholehearted Libertarian, who often followed the party line to ludicrous conclusions.

[FlashHarry]

9. Unlike some, Maher's a pragmatist.

He (like Michael Moore) voted Nader last time. And while he may disagree with Kerry on a lot of issues, he understands that four more years of BushCo™ will be devastating to America on virtually every front. So, being a smart man, he has chosen the far, far lesser of two evils. Absolutist idealists, on the other hand, say things like, "Kerry voted for the war, so I'm not voting for Kerry." Or, "Kerry is pro-NAFTA, so I'm not voting for Kerry." Of course, you and I know they're missing the big picture.

[PCIntern]

10. ...and he like Stern

was a victim of big media oppression.

When it happens to them, it's a catastrophe - when it happenst to you it's a shame but...hey, what can you do?

[blondeatlast]

12. He has clearly stated that he supports John Kerry. No ambivalence

about it.

My take is that he is fiercely independent, and he'll call either side out when they are screwing the country. That means, on occasion, that our side gets ragged on, too. But not nearly as much!

[Kahuna]

11. Tweety voted for bush in 2000 because he though it would be nice

to have a beer with him. So... I don't know where he was really coming from.

[blondeatlast]

13. He wants another job in the White House.

It's been reported that MSN is considering dropping MSNBC (although they are now the 2nd cable news channel--hmmmm).

Like many of us in a similar situation, Matthews is looking out for Tweety (I respect the guy, actually, but I love calling him Tweety!)

[seabeyond]

14. repugs are boycotting matthews

matthews has at least challenged bushies more so than any other, even olderman, and olderman does pretty good. so the bottomline, it is about chris and olderman and maher that challenge the right

not to far off there

fairly though, doesnt matter who matthew has, kuccinich, dean edwards, or a repug, .........when he invites a high up politician to show, he is respectful, and doesnt challenge. he does go after the underlings though, and see more repug.