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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 01:55 PM
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Andrew Sullivan in Atlantic Monthly: The Shock of Palin
31 Aug 2008 10:22 am

Non-movement conservatives may well have this reaction:

I’ve voted a straight Republican ticket every year of my life since 1975, when I first came of voting age, but I was stunned and horrified by McCain’s choice of Palin. I simply cannot even consider voting for McCain after this choice, which speaks loudly of his own selfishness and fundamental frivolousness.

So I was shocked when I turned to the conservative blogs looking for others who shared my dismay and found a celebration going on. They really honestly believe that Palin’s “inexperience” and Obama’s “inexperience” are equivalent. I have had no luck at all in the past 24 hours trying to explain that Obama is quite obviously an impressive man (with whom I disagree on almost every major issue) with extraordinary qualities of organization, discipline and leadership. I see nothing in Palin’s record to suggest that she has any such qualities.

He is a man who has spent his adult life thinking serious thoughts about serious issues and having serious conversations about them with other serious, well-informed people; while Palin quite as clearly has done none of those things. He was the president of the Harvard Law Review; she was the point guard on her high school basketball team.
He has surrounded himself in his campaign with world-class people (with whom, again, I disagree on almost every issue); and though I am doubtless an elitist and snob for saying so, I doubt that she has even met a half-dozen world-class people in her lifetime.

While Obama might do a hundred things as President that I believe are bad for the country, I am confident that he would surround himself with experienced, informed, competent advisors and that he would make no world-destroying blunders. I cannot say the same about Palin and, in view of what this choice reveals about McCain’s character and judgment, I cannot say the same of him either.

The Palin pick says much more about McCain than it does about Palin (all it says about her is that she didn't have the good sense to turn it down). What it says about McCain is that he is more interested in politics than policy, more interested in campaigning than governing, tactical when he should be strategic, and reckless when he should be considered.

He is as big a gamble as president as Palin is as vice-president. This decision was about gut, about politics, about cynicism, and about vanity. It's Bushism metastasized.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/the-shock-of-pa.html
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 02:00 PM
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1. Andrew, STFU and vote for Barr.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 02:02 PM
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4. And encourage other die-hard Republicans to do the same
I can't wait until Ron Paul's convention starts. I'm still getting emails from his supporters, local folks who still have large Ron Paul signs in their yards. I've only seen one sign for McCain, and it was homemeade, added to a sign advertising honey for sale.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 02:06 PM
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6. yes!
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 02:06 PM
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5. It is an e-mail a Conservative sent to Andrew which he posted on his blog.
The only part Sullivan wrote was "Non-movement conservatives may well have this reaction:"

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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 03:05 PM
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11. And the final two paragraphs. n/t
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 02:39 PM
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9. Sullivan is voting for Obama -- he has been pro-Obama for most of the year
He also voted for Kerry in 2004.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 02:01 PM
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2. Wow
Thinking Republicans are appalled. But I believe McCain is pandering to the non-thinking Republican, who represents the majority of his party.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 02:02 PM
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3. "Bushism metastasized"
Classic.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 02:40 PM
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10. I liked that, too. What a great way to put it -nt
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 02:32 PM
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7. Hmmmmm---He claimed in 2004 to be supporting the Kerry/Edwards ticket.
Edited on Sun Aug-31-08 02:39 PM by tblue37
"I’ve voted a straight Republican ticket every year of my life since 1975. . . ."

Oh, wait--I followed the link. Most of what you have quoted was not written by Andrew Sullivan. He was quoting someone else. The only part of what occurs in the OP that was actually written by Sullivan is the first line and the last two paragraphs.

In order to avoid confusing us, you should probably put the part he is quoting from someone else into a blockquote or else put it into a different color font. As it stands, it looks as though Andrew Sullivan is saying all of it.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 02:37 PM
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8. He is quoting a blogger's post....which is why the post at the actual link is
indented.

Sullivan supports Barack Obama and did vote Kerry-Edwards. He hasn't supported Bush in quite sometime.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 03:10 PM
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12. i thought he was disgusted in '04 and voted kerry. turncoat. n/t
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bidenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 03:14 PM
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13. who cares what sullivan thinks?
He's an ass.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 03:17 PM
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14. people should click on the article so that they can see what is Sullivan and what he is quoting


From Sullivan's part this is actually quite funny and brilliant

The Palin pick says much more about McCain than it does about Palin (all it says about her is that she didn't have the good sense to turn it down)
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