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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:10 AM
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Some of you were right: Palin will be replaced
Edited on Sun Aug-31-08 09:12 AM by Truth Hurts A Lot
This pregnancy swap story WILL grow legs. Too many facts just don't add up. Her daughter was out of school for 8 months during the same period! And the TX to AK flight story is simply.not.credible.

Don't get mad because it doesn't fit your idea of reality: Hell, it definitely doesn't fit mine. We are way too savvy to buy her cover up story. This might play well in small towns but she is in the big leagues now.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:11 AM
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1. Not to be nitpicky, but
TX to AL isn't that far.

TX to AK is.

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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:12 AM
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4. oops!
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:11 AM
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2. Then Lieberman can step to the plate. YES.
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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:12 AM
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3. my only 'fear' is that this has been put out there on purpose
Edited on Sun Aug-31-08 09:13 AM by habitual
to distract everyone from the real problems that she brings to the table. Then when 'they' come out and prove that this is nothing more than a left wing rumor (that they seeded) and is nonsense, everyone looks stupid and they look clean as a whistle.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:13 AM
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5. Let Obama and the surrogates focus on all the real issues which is change vs. Bush 3
But we on the net should be free to discuss whatever we choose, and if it gets to the MSM, so be it.
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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:20 AM
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7. of course, this is exactly what worries me.
I am all for freedom to discuss anything. And i am interested in the outcome. I am just worried that we are being used - sent on a 'wild goose chase'

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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:39 AM
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12. even if its true, we lose when we draw attention to it.
its lose-lose

The trap: Palin's personal life is lose-lose for us.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/whrab/15

So, you get her to admit the lie about her daughter's baby. That's great. Then, what???
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/whrab/17

C'mon people this is chess not checkers! We need to be able to see a more than one move ahead! THINK!
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:02 AM
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20. Her personal life is not a "lose" situation for us
if she lied about a pregnancy being hers and not her unwed daughter's, if this is indeed true.

It smacks of a grand hypocrisy on Palin's part; here is a politician who would deny women like her daughter 2 things:

1. CHOICE of whether she wants the pregnancy (it's wonderful that they kept the child and the grandparents will raise it as their own, but that's not the issue. Lots of people would do that. But why HIDE the fact?)

2. Sex education at the LEAST and birth control at the MOST;

If the child is indeed her daughter's, why not claim it with pride and attempt to make the point that sex education, choice and birth control is not necessary when you have families willing to close ranks? Doesn't that fit in with the their philosophy that ALL American families be just like THEIRS?

It's not LOSE for us when here is ANOTHER HYPOCRITICAL GOP POLITICIAN who will LIE to us about their own affairs while advocating how the rest of us live in regard to our bodies and our hearts.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:44 AM
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16. Good point. I see you have been paying attention to the Rove playbook. nt
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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:20 AM
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23. As in...
?
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:16 AM
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6. Why wasn't Huckabee picked?
I always thought he would of been the hardest to campaign against.


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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:22 AM
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8. After the John Edwards story I will never again
brush aside a story because it seems too tacky to be true, or so obvious you'd think it would have been discovered sooner.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:46 AM
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17. Word
reality has been a bad tabloid for some time now. I'm eargerly awating Bat Boy's inevitable run for Senate.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:33 AM
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9. link to daughter being out of school for eight months?
Other than someone said that someone said?

And why would she be out of school for eight months?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:36 AM
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10. the stupidity is mind numbing. YOU MAKE HER MORE SYMPATHETIC> there are no legs
there's only DU'ers bullshitting endlessly.

You can't prove this. It won't be investigated.

SHUT THE FUCK UP.
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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:42 AM
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14. and it makes her more sympathetic, as you said
I mean, wasn't she chosen to appeal to the base? Won't this story, true or false, simply serve to bolster that appeal?

Look out for the trap, it's only one move ahead!
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:36 AM
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11. Right now the story seems really weak
It seems to turn on a picture of her wearing a coat at the 7-1/2 month stage. No signs of pregnancy there, but the coat could have covered that.

Are there any DNA experts out there? Count the question be answered with a simple DNA test?

If so, maybe she should offer to clear up this matter. If she refuses to do that, it will only give the rumor more credibility.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:40 AM
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13. If repugs can demand Obama's birth certificate
we should be able to demand a DNA test!
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:48 AM
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19. Would a DNA test answer the question?
Or would Sarah's and her daughter's DNA be so similar that a paternity test would be inconclusive?

I guess we are assuming that if Sarah was the mother, then her husband was the father, and assuming no incest, there would be a different father if the daughter gave birth. So in that case, the DNA test should be very clear.

This could all get very interesting, because there are actually four possibilities:

1) Sarah and her husband are the parents
2) Sarah's daughter and her boyfriend are the parents
3)
4)

I'll let you figure out the other two possibilities, but they aren't very pleasant for anybody involved in this story.

For the sake of everyone involved, let's hope it is case #1. Let's clear this up with a DNA test.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:06 AM
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21. rofl nt
:rofl:
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:43 AM
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15. Will this be McCain's Thomas Eagleton Moment?
Will this be John McCain's Thomas Eagleton moment, as when George McGovern forced his first running mate, Missouri US Senator Thomas Eagleton, to resign?

Will McCain's judgement be called into question, just as McGovern's was back in 1972?

Stay tuned!
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:47 AM
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18. Has any network or cable news channel mentioned a peep about babygate
Edited on Sun Aug-31-08 09:47 AM by mrone2
even in passing? The only place I have seen any mention at all is on the internet, but I don't watch tv 24/7 so I could have missed mention of it.

on edit: typo
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:26 AM
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24. I don't think they should without more evidence
If the story came down this way, there must be somebody who would be willing to talk.

Larry Flynt, we need you. :)

Tactically, it is better if this festers for a few weeks before exploding. The issue, in the end, will be McCain's judgment and how seriously he approached his first big decision. We know already he met her only once before offering her the job. It also appears that his staff wasn't concerned about the ethics charges. If it turns out that his people overlooked something as big as this baby problem, that will be devastating to his campaign.

This guy is just following the neocon playbook. Remember it was William Kristol who was predicting Sarah Palin would be the pick. Obviously he and his PNAC biddies were advocating this inside the campaign. It is really telling that they got their way.

"We don't need no stinking experience. We are making all the important decisions. We just need somebody who will look pretty."
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:33 AM
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26. Maybe they're confident of another win
courtesy of Diebold, so who needs "experience"....rather they just need someone who will do what they're told to do.
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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:07 AM
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22. I think so too but I think it'll be because of the ethics investigation
Edited on Sun Aug-31-08 10:34 AM by True_Blue
and I think they'll make her turn down the VP position and she'll give some sort of reason for not being able to accept the postion.
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:26 AM
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25. Maybe she will come down with a bad case of mono.
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