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mikiturner Donating Member (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:36 PM
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Why John McCain Just Lost Florida [PLEASE DIGG]
Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 12:37 PM by mikiturner
Great diary over at KOS

..if the Obama camp engages in some smart, targeted politicking. It's the Sarah Palin pick, and it might be the thing that pushes Florida into the Obama camp. Why? Follow my logic here, and you'll see how simple it is.

In the 2000 Presidential election, Sarah Palin supported Pat Buchanan. Not Al Gore. Not George W. Bush, but Pat Buchanan:

Pat Buchanan brought his conservative message of a smaller government and an America First foreign policy to Fairbanks and Wasilla on Friday as he continued a campaign swing through Alaska. Buchanan's strong message championing states rights resonated with the roughly 85 people gathered for an Interior Republican luncheon in Fairbanks. … Among those sporting Buchanan buttons were Wasilla Mayor Sarah Palin and state Sen. Jerry Ward, R-Anchorage.

Now, political junkies such as ourselves can imagine the messaging: "Sarah Palin apparently didn't think George W. Bush was extreme enough," etc, etc. But, really, do most people know enough about Buchanan and his platform in 2000? Not most people...except in one place:

South Florida. And particularly Palm Beach County.

Accidentally voting for Pat Buchanan instead of Al Gore is something that brings up a lot of emotion in South Florida. Not just because the people there feel disenfranchised and upset that their vote helped Bush, but also because instead of voting for the ticket with the first Jew (I know, we all know now about Lieberman), they voted for someone they perceived to be an anti-semite:


Head to the link to read more, and PLEASE DIGG!!!
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:38 PM
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1. so is this why Pat made that weird comment on MSNBC about leaving early before the convention.... nt
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mikiturner Donating Member (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:40 PM
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2. Which comment?
He makes so many odd comments.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:42 PM
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4. I doubt I could find the clip - but it was a strange thing about timing for the RNC
Something about him possibly leaving early for the RNC when McCain's VP was announced. I wonder if he's been on MSNBC since?
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:41 PM
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3. Also, he dis'd Joe Lieberman
with this pick. After Holy Joe made a fool of himself for McGrumpy
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mikiturner Donating Member (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:43 PM
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5. Loserman, Pawlenty and Mittens
Are NOT happy. McCain used them, plain and simple.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:43 PM
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6. It certainly hurts him Florida
but you also have to cut through a lot of weeds to get to the truth, and explain a lot of things to people who might not be all that educated (elderly people who have low levels of education).
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mikiturner Donating Member (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:46 PM
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9. True
But the name "Pat Buchanan" is pretty much all you need in that area.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:43 PM
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7. That link doesn't have any proof who she supported that I can see
There is proof that she wore a buchanan button in 1999

There is proof that she liked both steve forbes and pat buchanan

but hard proof is necessary I think, otherwise they will just deny it


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mikiturner Donating Member (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:45 PM
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8. What kind of hard proof?
It's not like we have to prove she was a co-chair or something.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:46 PM
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10. Let me look at the link again. I didn't see anything about her being co-chair
for buchanan. Thanks


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mikiturner Donating Member (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:47 PM
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12. Oh, I'm not saying she was
I'm just saying that proving that level of involvement is not necessary to get the point across. Sorry if I wasn't clear.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:51 PM
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14. That's cool, and I have no doubt that she leaned toward buchanan back then
I just want to find something really hard to throw at people in case they are on the fence

Thanks

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mikiturner Donating Member (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:16 PM
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15. No problem
Too bad there aren't any pictures of her with Pat or wearing buttons. Maybe we could contact the Buchanan for President campaign...
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:47 PM
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11. I think it's something fairly well established
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:49 PM
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13. I just want the ammunition so there is no doubt when I throw it at people I know in Florida
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