Bush Losing - Karl Rove & Co Go Into Crazed HyperDrive

[GOPAgainstGW]

Bush’s Sleeper Cells
All it takes is a wink and a nod from the White House, and this network springs into action
Newsweek, By Eleanor Clift
Updated: 3:50 p.m. ET Aug. 27, 2004
Full Article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5843033/site/newsweek/

Aug. 27 - Karl Rove makes Chuck Colson look like a girly man. Colson didn’t have the audacity to go after John Kerry’s military record when President Nixon was looking for dirt on antiwar leaders. After researching Kerry’s medals, Colson, who now heads a prison ministry program, backed off. “Maybe Chuck knew he was going to find Jesus back then because he had a degree of shame,” says a senior staffer to a Senate Republican.

The Kerry campaign thinks it has succeeded in discrediting the scurrilous attack on Kerry’s military service, but Rove got what he wanted. Instead of talking about a failed war in Iraq and a new report that shows 1.3 million more Americans living in poverty, we’re debating what happened in the Mekong Delta in 1968.

The strategy “came straight from the West Wing,” says the GOP staffer. “Nobody should be confused.” Asked to explain, this Republican says Rove is smart enough to keep technical distance. But all it takes is a well-placed wink to activate a web of Bush family hit men, confidantes and deep-pocket donors. “They know what to do—it’s like sleeper cells that get activated,” he says, likening the players to “political terrorists.”

[greenbriar]

1. death and hell is

too far away

[Pirate Smile]

2. I thought these sections were very interesting:

"The strategy “came straight from the West Wing,” says the GOP staffer. “Nobody should be confused.” Asked to explain, this Republican says Rove is smart enough to keep technical distance. But all it takes is a well-placed wink to activate a web of Bush family hit men, confidantes and deep-pocket donors. “They know what to do—it’s like sleeper cells that get activated,” he says, likening the players to “political terrorists.”

snip

My Republican mole on Capitol Hill says the green light has gone out to Republicans to do whatever it takes to get Bush elected. “This is the way we hold onto power,” he says with disgust."

God, they are disgusting.

[ClintonTyree]

3. But the majority..................

of Americans think the Bushies are honest and trustworthy guardians of our Democracy. It amazes me how ignorant and intellectually lazy most Americans are. I think that's why they like Bush so much, he's one of them.

[FloridaPat]

4. My father - the Democrat - has this proble. It's not laziness or ignorance

it's having spent a life time believing that the President of the US is a great person who leads well and is out to protect our great country from all harm. It takes a great mental turn to understand that your own government is against you and plotting to ruin you. I went through that during the Vietnam years. I totally realized my government was a fraud when the air traffic controlles got fired. But I still did not realize how bad it could get. And they're hold back to win this election!

It's very hard to realize the one entity you trust to keep you safe is a liar. We need to start early in the schools to show how distrustful the government is, not how to be good patriots. How many would support that idea?

If our government is a fraud and a liar and not for the protecting the poeple, but the corporations - that leaves us where? The Democrats give We the People scraps, but they've lost our government too. To change all thise, we need people to run their own lives at a first level, run for office, and then hold everyone accountable. Hard to do when you are raising a family, working, trying to pay bills, and have nowhere to learn all this.

Ohm yeah, my dad and I both hate Bush.

[Gin]

5. this is exactly the correct description...hope someone uses it in an ad.

“political terrorists.”

[krkaufman]

23. Like maybe an ad for "Bush's Brain"?

I *pray* that the producers of the documentary take Eleanor's article as an opportunity to get their feet in the door of some of the talking head shows. Rove's fingerprints are all over the SmearBoat lies, and I expect their documentary will shed some light on that bastids tactics.

[annabanana]

9. "how not to be good patriots"?

By promoting numb nut power-hypnotised zombies, we are already teaching kids not to be good patriots. I refuse to let them have the word "patriot", it doesn't belong to them.

- Massachusetts Patriot.

[madmax]

16. Absolutely!

You've nailed my thoughts and feelings, FloridaPat. I'm now trying to talk politics with my 14 year old grandaughter. I don't want her to believe the myth of the 'liberal media', blind justice (USSC), or that our governement operates for the people, of the people, by the people. Unless 'the people' are engaged and questioning.

[krkaufman]

24. Don't blame the Democrats

"We the People" have allowed this to happen, by not staying informed and not holding the government accountable.

The current political environment is a result of a large portion of "we the people" ignoring what's going on, in deference to our opiate of choice and/or in the pursuit of creature comforts.

[FloridaPat]

26. I have to come to the defense of those not informed. Until the

interenet, it was impossible. It is still extemely hard. I have to spend 1-2 hours a day to keep up and there are still a lot of things I don't catch. The government's goal is to keep up in the dark. To find out what they are up to is a full time job. We should be haning editors and media owners along with the politicans.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

7. Untrue.

You are spreading fear, uncertainy, and doubt, with no basis in fact.

[Nay]

8. It's true, DumpGump. Most Americans ARE like Bush --

petty emotional idiots, intellectual slackers, bobos who love TV, small-time bullies who love to manipulate others. Just get a job at any moderately-sized workplace and you'll have the misfortune to meet a whole bunch of them.

[Jade Fox]

11. Ugh! Its the weekend, don't remind me of my job!

:)

[Nay]

13. Ha! Sorry! It is depressing, isn't it? I go in to work every Monday

(freeper heaven) and dream of the day when I can leave. Economy is just too shitty, though, and I make quite a bit of $$$ where I work. Have worked there a while.

May have to go to Canada after November, though.

[Jade Fox]

14. I too have a dream....

I've made the decision to get another job, and the priority is going to be
finding better people to work with! No loss, since I am NOT making good
money in the semi-freeper heaven where I work.

[madaboutharry]

6. "This smarmy canpaign...."

Smarmy is the perfect term to describe not only the canpaign, but Bush, the creeps around him, and his presidency.

[Hobarticus]

10. "Political terrorists"! THAT's a line Kerry should repeat!

[Guaranteed]

19. Brutal. nt

[Jade Fox]

12. "a degree of shame"....exactly what Rove et al lack....

What is it with Rove? He must be the most miserable person on the
planet to spend his life doing what he does.

[krkaufman]

25. I doubt Rove is miserable

Sociopaths feel no guilt or remorse.

[Gyre]

15. Hey Karl, no reason to get crazy

as long as the media is still swallowing your press releases whole and half the country believes Saddam took out the WTC! Chill. Ya got no worries!

Gyre

[Strelnikov_]

17. This Is The Way I See It Too

. . .

"The fact that the sleeper network has gone nuclear is evidence of Bush’s weakness, not his strength, says Zogby. “If weren’t seeing serious damage, they wouldn’t be hitting so hard so early. The president is on the ropes; there’s no other way of looking at it.”

. . .

Political campaigns mimic sporting events in one important aspect, the winner is the side that is ahead when the bell goes off, not at the end of the 1st, 2nd or third quarter.

Using this analogy, Boosh playing the swifty card at this point is kind of like an NCAA team, challenging a stronger opponent, going to 3 point shots with 5 min. left. They know they are falling behind, and turn to 'conventional' desperation tactics to attempt to stay close. And the closer it stays, the less chance they will launch any 'unconventional' desperation tactics (intentional fouls), since these could just as easily backfire badly.

Let's face it, unless there is some political 'nuclear' event to change the current dynamic, history is not on Boosh's side.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/2004/la-na-approval24mar24,1,3244787.story?coll=la-center-elect2004

"Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton defeated incumbents despite polls late in the campaign showing that voters had significant doubts about their readiness for the presidency."

"More volatility was evident in the reelection campaigns of Gerald Ford in 1976, Carter in 1980 and George H.W. Bush in 1992, all of whom lost. Approval ratings for each fell below 50% in the months before the elections. And polling found voters ricocheting between their qualms about the challenger and dissatisfaction with the incumbent."

[West Coast Democrat]

18. I have always said that Rove is not brilliant, he just plays dirty...

dirtier than most people have the conscience to play. He is not a political genius...he's made plenty of mistakes--invading Iraq and losing Jeffords for example...but he has an important part of his brain missing. It's called a conscience.

He's never played fair in his life. He's never won any fight or election without cheating or lying. If Republicans want to call that "genius," then they don't know what the term means.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

21. The Colson anecdote backs this up...

"Colson didn’t have the audacity to go after John Kerry’s military record when President Nixon was looking for dirt on antiwar leaders. After researching Kerry’s medals, Colson, who now heads a prison ministry program, backed off. "Maybe Chuck knew he was going to find Jesus back then because he had a degree of shame," says a senior staffer to a Senate Republican."

Rove has no degree of shame.

There are all KINDS of ways to get what you want in life as long as you don't care who you destroy in the process. That, in a nutshell, is Rove's "talent."

[GOPAgainstGW]

20. O'Neill SBVT Now Has $2.2 million in Donations

Email Rec’d
08.28.04

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John E. O'Neill is claiming that his Swift Boat organization now has $2.2 million in donations, with two more months to go before election day. Not bad. When his Firm’s GOP ops and Merrie Spaeth’s group rolled John McCain for Bush in 2000 they raised $2 million.

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==Reply==

Tell O’Neill to knock himself out, but it ain’t going to work this time. Secondly, it don’t spend very well when he and Perry are going to be in Federal prison cells.

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[John Q. Citizen]

22. Great post

What you say is true but you are preaching to the choir. Go post the same thing at http://www.netpluscom.com/ which is a small ISP discussion board in Ohio. Ohio is a swing state. Help create an echo chamber for the left!

[GOPAgainstGW]

27. What you need an invitation?

[JLFinch]

28. How can I contact TRA BC'04 in Houston?

Is there a web site? An e-mail address?

Really want to invite you all to an event this week - rally against John O'Neill!!!!!!!

Thanks.