We're attacking her for different reasons because she is female than we would if she was male.

[Pale Blue Dot]

Half of the arguments I've seen against her would never even be considered if she was a man. And THAT has got to stop.

[Bread and Circus]

1. Bullshit.

[Faygo Kid]

2. ????? I don't think so.

She is a right-wing, unqualified extremist.

You best post specifics before you make that charge.

[Connie_Corleone]

3. She's not qualified to be Vice President.

I would say the same for an unqualified man.

[LostinVA]

17. That's fair

But at lot of the attacks on her are just sexist. I *hate* her, but I hate her for legitimate reasons, such as her stance on oil drilling, endangered species act, aerial wolf hunting, etc.

[whistler162]

31. Actually she is qualied for the office....

she just ain't qualified to receive my vote to put her in that office.

The Constitution sets forth the qaulifications for the office.

[Colobo]

4. She's not qualified.

[Evergreen Emerald]

22. It is not about experience it is about judgement

She is as "qualified" as Obama. Experience is not the issue. She is simply on the wrong side of every issue--just like McCain.

[cliffordu]

24. BWAHAhah ahHa HaHa Ha hAhAha hAha hAhA

:rofl:

[Cha]

26. NO she isn't as qualified as Obama.

You know that if you'd done any investigation at all.

[rufus dog]

45. Technically she is qualified

Meets age and birth requirements. After that it becomes a ridiculous argument that you should never be drawn into. It is the 'small issues' that Obama refereed to in his speech. I had a friend trying to get into the argument via email. I responded with a picture of her lovely downtown.

Don't go down the rabbit hole, it cheapens our candidates.

[Cha]

62. I will stand up and say she is not as qualified as Obama

It does not cheapen my candidate a damn bit.

We're after quality not being able to meet the age requirement.

[nam78_two]

28. Palin is as qualified as Obama?

:wtf:

[sandnsea]

38. No she is not as qualified as Obama, that's absurd

Which is why McCain's judgment in choosing her is to be questioned. It's an easier argument to make - but in no way is Palin as qualified as Obama.

[Evergreen Emerald]

75. We will not win on the experience argument. McCain has experience.

Obama has no experience. Palin has no experience. If experienced mattered, Obama would not be the nominee.

As Obama stated: change comes TO washington, not from washington. As Obama stated: it is about judgment, not experience.

To suggest that experience suddenly matters undercuts Obama's whole theme.

Palin is wrong on every issue from women's issues to the enviornment. That is her weakness. She is more of Bush. She is more of the same. She is a fundamental right-wing Bushie.

[spanone]

49. i really don't think she's as qualified as barack obama and experience IS the issue

she is on the wrong side of every issue and unqualified and inexperienced

[sushi]

59. You are right!

She is as "qualified" as Obama, and experience is not the issue. She is simply on the wrong side of every issue, according to Democrats. The question is what do the independents think.

[Schema Thing]

5. For instance?

[grassfed]

6. jfc

[hlthe2b]

7. Hypocrisy, extremist views, extremely unqualified, &

quite possibly as corrupt as those she supposedly sought to go after? Hardly gender-linked.

[AuntPatsy]

8. look to our resident trolls, they love stirring the pot and then sitting back

and watch it bubble but to their ever lasting sorrow all bubbling pots do no more than simmer

[moriah]

9. I'm assuming the main argument you are talking about is the parenthood issue?

I agree on that.

A father of a newborn special-needs child would not be told he couldn't run for president or vice-president.

We can't be hypocrites here.

[Thrill]

10. The thing is she wouldn't of been picked if she wasn't a woman

And that's what is disrespectful to all women

[scheming daemons]

11. She wouldn't even have been CONSIDERED for the job by McCain if she were a man....

[RoadRage]

73. DING DING DING!

[JohnnyLib2]

12. Agreed.

[movonne]

13. Oh stop it...if she is running for vp then this would happen..we got to

stop this type of thinking..as a woman I think we have to be just a little stronger...and not make excuses..now they are saying because she is a woman Biden can't be as tough on her..we can't have it both ways...

[loyalsister]

61. Biden can be as tough on her as he wants

If he wants to win he won't do anything that the media characterizes as "attack."
I have been working on campaigns for a long time. Women have the advantage when they are "attacked."
It offends men particularly. "I wouldn't want him talking to my sister\wife\daughter that way."
He can certainly do it- at our peril.

[LittleClarkie]

14. It's not that she's a woman. It's that she's a hypocrite.

She holds up the birth of her last child as evidence of her pro-life credibility, saying that others would have aborted the child, and talks about what a gift and a challenge the child will be.

For someone else apparently, since she won't be around.

She belongs to the party of family values. She doesn't believe in choice for women who don't have the resources she had to make the decision she did about having a Down's Syndrome child.

Half the arguments I've seen against her would never be considered if she wasn't a raging hypocrite.

[LostinVA]

15. I agree

There are TONS of legitimate things to attack her on. At least half the attacks I see are just sexist.

[KittyWampus]

16. She was chosen largely as a token woman & she's a Fundie, a group that expects women to be breeders

obedient breeders who stay at home and raise their kids OR at least have a husband to look after the kid.

[vaberella]

18. Her reproductive organs are being used to manipulate the vote by MSM, GOP, and McCain camp.

This is no game. You may sit there and say that half the arguments wouldn't be in play if she was man. But the other half of our nation is using exactly that against us and Palin is gladly playing the tool.

I definitely know I'm calling her and them out on this. You don't fuckin' manipulate the vote with someone's gender and get away with it.

[physioex]

21. Right....

OHHHH I chose NOT to have an abortion. Give me a break.

[tbyg52]

43. Manipulation. Exactly. nt

Edited for traditional stupid typo, even in subject.

[physioex]

19. Proof? EOM

[Name removed]

20. Deleted sub-thread

Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Fearless]

23. It's 3:00AM, does her being a woman mean anything as to whether she'll be qualified to...

pick up the phone?

Absolutely not.

[vaberella]

25. She's far from qualified. n/t

[Fearless]

40. Right. But her being a woman does not make it so.

[Beausoir]

27. How many threads do we need about her amniotic fluid?

When did she begin to "leak"??

OMG!!!!11!

Sickos.

[JVS]

37. If we can generate enough chatter that tabloids and the MSM talk about when and what...

was coming out of her reproductive organs as much as they have been talking about the whereabouts of John Edwards' reproductive organs, we will have accomplished a great thing.

[JVS]

29. I will attack her for whatever reason suits the purpose of making her look bad to my audience.

When I am among secular people I will attack her for being a religious zealot. When I am among people from church, I will attack her for being of a heterodox denomination. When I am among liberals I will attack her for her conservative views. When I am among conservatives I will attack her for her for anything they are prove to view as shortcomings in ideology. When I am among women, I will deride the obvious pandering of her nomination and the fact that McCain must not think much of womens' intelligence, when I am among conservative men who dislike women in authority, I will rub their noses in it.

If I can attack her for opposite reasons over the course of an afternoon, I will consider it an accomplishment.

Same goes for Johnny Boy.

[Pale Blue Dot]

36. I really, REALLY hope you're being sarcastic.

If we can't convince people with the truth, then what the hell are we doing?

On edit: I hate when people take my obvious sarcasm seriously. I think I've been a hypocrite in response to you. :thumbsup:

[LostInAnomie]

30. Bull-fucking-shit.

[JVS]

42. I love the avatar.

Somehow no matter what you post, it looks like you're giving a big thumbsdown.

Funny how often it matches the content of the post.

[sniffa]

32. K&R

You are correct.

[gal]

33. Then stop reading it.

[gal]

34. Then stop reading it.

[faithfulcitizen]

35. She wouldn't be VP if she wasn't a female, and thus we would attack HIM for other reasons.

:silly:

[AZBlue]

39. Do you mean the comments about her 4-month old child? What about the Edwards criticisms

because of his wife's cancer? And, if any male had a 4-month old child at home with special needs, I'd say the same things about them that I'm saying about Palin. A special needs child deserves the attention and care required. It's not because of her gender, it's because she's made a very bad choice.

Aside from that, she's patently not qualified anyway.

[thewiseguy]

41. What?

[jgraz]

44. And people wonder how the Democrats have lost 7 out of the last 10 elections

:eyes:

[helderheid]

46. If she were a man, the RW would be up in arms about this pick. Unqualified and completely unfit.

[blonndee]

47. How about some examples? Thanks.

[Name removed]

48. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[blonndee]

50. Thanks for the agreement, but

could you please quit posting in caps? It's very disconcerting and freeperish. Thanks.

[hasssan1]

53. I know , but I AM SO ANGRY AND ON FIRE , But i'll try to loose the caps

[Debi]

56. Yes, please LOOSE those caps!

:hi:

[Pale Blue Dot]

57. Look, I know you don't agree with my OP, but consider

this poster's name, the fact that his sig line has been created to sound like he's a foreigner... do you REALLY think HE'S here to support us, whether you agree with him or not?

If I was a suspicious type, which thank heavens I'm not, I'd almost say that he was planted here to make it look like un-American types support Democrats.

Now why do you think he's disagreeing with me? Hmmm....

[blonndee]

63. Dude, I think you are reading too much into my post. What are you talking about?

On edit: DUH!!!

A litte slow on the uptake, I am tonight. A little Yoda-ism to make up for my slowness, this edit is.

[sniffa]

52. You're really over the top

You're like an angry Shatner.

[Pale Blue Dot]

54. ...

:rofl:

[blonndee]

55. ....

It's a good effing thing I WASN'T taking a sip of my beer when I read your post.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! :rofl:

[hasssan1]

58. I am very angry at this moment , 8 years is a long time and for me

this election is like war because i can see if obama don't get to WH , this country will go to hell. Trust me I came from IRAM 12 Years ago and i see some stuff here that ordinary American people won't see. there are a lot of similarities between this gop and current WH and mullahs who are ruling in iran. So now you know why I MA SO ANGRY.

[Pale Blue Dot]

60. Ahhh, yes. So you are an angry Middle Eastern dude who supports Democrats in all caps...

Just as I thought. Please, I teach world culture - could you tell me more about what life is like in IRAM?

[hasssan1]

66. If you teach world culture and don't know how life is in iran,then i believe you bought your degree

online and i think you paid too much for it. honest to god i feel you are very smart (spy) republican disguise yourself as a dems to do some damage here. just my honest feeling.

[Pale Blue Dot]

67. ...

:rofl:

[LostinVA]

68. Why do you hate IRAM?

:rofl:

[Debi]

51. Thank you. n/t

[mitchum]

64. Well, she is being put up in the storefront window because she IS a female

so, what can ya do?

[Pale Blue Dot]

65. Attack her on her positions, experience and policies?

Like we would a male?

[mitchum]

69. Fair enough, but after those 5 minutes are up...

there are still a lot of hours left in the day
Tis not my fault that the wench wears a threadbare shift

[Pale Blue Dot]

70. Unbelieveable. nt

[mitchum]

74. What? My mimicry of Elizabethan speech?

Thanks, but it's really nothing.

Tell me that you really didn't miss my (quite heavy handed) use of "threadbare shift" as a metaphor for her lack of experience or qualifications. As I said, it was pretty heavy handed. But self righteousness and a desire to appear oh-so-sensitive can dull one's perceptive powers.

[blonndee]

71. Hahahaha!

Maybe because she is a spectacle in the truest sense. How about that possibility? A laughingstock, an embarrassment, a member of the carnival of absurdity?

[w8liftinglady]

72. after 8 hours...I have to agree

and I started one of those dreadful threads.Let's focus on Governor Palin.Leave Sarah out of it.

[Ichingcarpenter]

76. Clever

I really like that.