Rep. Ron Paul on C-SPAN now

[MoonRiver]

A sane Republican? A Democrat called in and asked "why isn't Kerry talking like you! How can we get this to happen?"

:wtf:

[BlueEyedSon]

1. Dang, I thought you said "MO Paul"!

[LynnTheDem]

2. Ron Paul

is libertarian, and he's opposed the invasion of Iraq since he spoke on the House floor October 10, 2002.

But unfortunately I abhor the rest of his politics.

[capaylib]

6. What are the rest of his politics

I heard a reference to Milton, but no other obvious clues to me...clue me in.

[JohnKleeb]

7. umm repealing the min wage

[TheRovingGourmet]

33. Ending the drug war.

[MoonRiver]

11. Yes, after listening to him for awhile he sounds like an economic wacko.

I believe he said he's a follower of the Austrian economic school. If so, that is very bad.

[Norquist Nemesis]

3. Another caller tried to call him a 'pacifist'

HAH! ROFL~

She started out by saying, "Dr. Paul, I know you're a pacifist but..." Brian stopped her at that point for Paul to explain and say, "No, I'm not. I'm for going to war as a last resort. I'm not for starting wars." 9paraphrase)

OOPS! I guess the label-to-the-extreme-at-the-outset attack didn't work! LOL

[capaylib]

4. He is making sense

Is this a case of Foreign Policy makes strange bedfellows? This guy is good, what's the gotcha?

[MrBenchley]

5. SANE? Ron Paul?

The guy's as crazy as a shithouse rat. He's opposed to the UN, birth control, environmental protection, the minimum wage and just about every otehr fucking thing in the world.

"A Democrat called in and asked "why isn't Kerry talking like you! How can we get this to happen?""
You could give John Kerry LSD and I doubt he'd sound as out of it as Ron Paul.

[JohnKleeb]

9. I would hope that Kerry doesnt sound like Paul

for christ sakes.

[MoonRiver]

12. I don't agree with the caller. It just surprised me.

Of course, who knows whether the guy was really a Dem. Only thing that makes me think so is the Pukes obviously hate Ron Paul.

[JohnKleeb]

24. I know you dont agree but

yeah they hate him because hes somewhat sane on social issues.

[MoonRiver]

30. Its really amazing what lemmings rank and file Pukes are.

They treat the slightest divergence from their holy Puke doctrine as sacrilege, subject to severe reprisal. I think their official language is Borgspeak, not English. Meanwhile, we Dems squabble and argue one minute, then hug, kiss and join hands the next. Go figure!

[JohnKleeb]

32. they have their infights I am sure but

not as much as they did in the 60's.

[capaylib]

10. Thanks, thats what I needed

but he is making sense to me on Foreign Policy.

[el_gato]

36. He's also Opposed to the Patriot Act

As well as U.S. imperialism

[JohnKleeb]

8. wtf is that

no hes not sane at all, hes a libertarian, yes he may agree with us on IWR and PA, but he's not good stuff, he's for repealing the min wage, made a statement 8 years ago about most of black males being in prison.

[capaylib]

13. Reminds me of the time

A made a donation to a door to door canvaser for a front group for Lyndon Larouche...the "Rainbow" something or another...not knowing the connection. Luckily, something...I don't recall what...prompted me to investigate a little further and I found them out and was able to cancel the check...whewww....

That was before the Worldwide Web...thanks for the instantaneous clarification.

[MoonRiver]

14. Thanks for the info.

I was just curious about him. I've heard the name, but had no knowledge of his political stances.

[TheRovingGourmet]

38. Wasn't that a statement about the number of black males in

prison? I have heard him talk about this before.

[Norquist Nemesis]

15. There will be a draft

Just said he thinks there will be a draft regardless of who is elected. :cry:

[MoonRiver]

16. I definitely do not agree with that.

If Kerry is elected we won't have a draft. But we will in the wcs of *'s re-Selection.

[Norquist Nemesis]

25. Just the messenger

but what he had to say about it is valid. He talked about the activity that's been going on in Congress with it. We've done the same here on DU.

He agreed with the caller that there isn't really a difference between the parties in Washington on the issue and given the current climate and things that are being discussed that we can probably expect it to happen. He also said he hopes it doesn't.

[MoonRiver]

28. I know.

I am very uptight about this draft thing.

I sure wish Kerry and Edwards had separated themselves from the Iraq war shit more. That's about the only mistake I've seen in their campaign. Well, they also should have gone on the attack earlier against SB liars. And, I also believe Kerry should have picked Clark. :cry:

[capaylib]

19. That thought has run across my mind too

hope not, but wouldn't be shocked beyond belief. I would think that the threat of a draft OR the reinstitution of the draft should be a great deterent to war...but I guess that wasn't true of Vietnam.

I'm so confused....one day of active posting....don't know whether I'm coming or going, dem or libertarian:-). Kidding...I think I can take it.

[Norquist Nemesis]

21. Welcome to DU!!

:hi: :toast:

In the confused camp too...need ... more ... coffee ... :donut:

[LynnTheDem]

27. Hello!

:hi:

[LynnTheDem]

17. Libertarianism is ...

The platform is as little govt as possible and as much contracts as possible.

So if I want to hire your 5 year old to work in a factory, YOU are the kid's legal guardian so YOU can sign such a contract. And your kid comes to work for me in my factory.

There are no government rules or regs, no laws saying what can & can't be done.

If YOU and I agree $.25/hour for the kid and the kid works 10 hours a day 7 days a week, fine. As long as you & I agree on it in contract.

[LynnTheDem]

18. It doesn't work in real life

They'd have no taxes at all. No govt services, other than enforcing contracts.

They think with individuals having more money coz no taxes, they'll donate $ to help the poor, out of the goodness of their hearts. ROTFL!

It doesn't work; say you have a dead end street.

On the street you have 3 houses.

#1 is hubby, wife, 3 kids, struggling to get by

#2 single and rich

#3 a couple, no kids, doing ok money-wise

And it snows.

And #3 is at the dead end of the street, so #3 and #2 have to go past house #1 to drive out to the main street.

#1 can't afford to have their bit of road in front their house plowed.

So #2 and #3 have to pay to have the entire road plowed? What if #2 loses their jobs and can't pay either?

What if you're house #100 on that street...

The whole platform is nuts, imo.

[AmerDem]

20. For a repuke he made alot of sense!

Seems like a very fair man. When asked if he was going to vote for shrub...he paused and said he wasn't sure.

[MoonRiver]

22. Wow, I missed that!

I believe there are many Repubs who are on the fence right now.

[AmerDem]

29. C-Span will replay WJ today

Not sure what time though. They also archive all of there shows, you can get it from their site.

[KharmaTrain]

23. A Fascist Friday Gotcha!

Yep...clever guy that Brian Lamb...

He brings on a Repugnican in sheeps clothing...a wacko Liberatarian who happens to have a similar view of the war as the rest of us, and that's propped up to get the Democrats to glom on to a Repugnican and gives Brian cover when he gets hit at the drinkie drinkie parties that he brings on Repugnicans who are critical of this regime. Yep...this dude knows how to pull the levers!

[LynnTheDem]

26. Agreed!

Don't be fooled, people!!! Ron Paul is right in line with what we dream of...anti-invasion of Iraq.

But that's ONLY because WAR COSTS MONEY.

Read Paul's website; you won't like the rest of his views.

[el_gato]

37. Well let's see

He's against the drug war...So am I.
He's against the Patriot Act...So am I.
He's against the Invasion of Iraq and Imperialsim in general...So am I.

So he does have some good positions. However the main problem
with Liberatriansim is that is rightfully sees the threat of too
much power in the hands of government but it ignores the threat
of too much power in the hands of corporations and in this day
and age it is becoming harder and harder to distinguish where the
corporations end and our government begins.

Having said that, I don't see any reason to spew invective Paul's way.
He's just standing up for what he believes in. If there were more
"republicans" like him the debate about what is happening to this
country would be on a much higher level than what we have now from
the neocon slime machine.

[AmerDem]

31. Did you watch it?

Because if you did you would have seen the squirming and unease in Lambs face as this Paul guy ranted about about what shrub is doing wrong.

Granted Lamb is a repuke thru and thru but to say he set this up as some kind of sly way of having Dems support repukes is a bit crazy!

[KharmaTrain]

39. Of Course He'll Squirm...

This is Brian's attempt at "balance"...and a mindset at the whole network. They'll parade several hard-edge conservatives...AEI & Heritage types...and balance it with a moderate Democrat or a "moderate" Repugnican. He's more interested in types he can "pal" with when he's on.

I assume this is the same Ron Paul who ran for President as a Liberatarian in the 80's and early 90s...sure sounds like it. I'm far from dismissive of Liberatarian positions (far preferable to the ones that are being imposed on us now) but this sure isn't or shouldn't be construed of what a Democrat, Liberal or Progressive believes. That's the shell game Brian's playing.

[TheRovingGourmet]

35. I've known the guy a long time. He is a little nutty, and differs

from me on lots of things, but he is no fascist. He stands by his convictions, no matter how unpopular they may be.

[redstateblues]

34. My Libertarian friend says his nickname is"Dr.No" because

he votes no on just about any spending measure that comes down the pike. He annoys the Repugs.