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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 03:53 AM
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GOP itchin' for a Mike fight--Michael Moore @ RNC!
'Fahrenheit 9/11" director Michael Moore - a virulent enemy of President Bush - has been hired by USA Today to write four opinion columns during the Republican Convention. Word is that party officials aren't happy that the pugnacious Moore - wearing the credentials of a legitimate journalist - will be the skunk at their garden party next week, traipsing around Madison Square Garden and maybe even causing trouble.

But get a load of what some of the delegates have to say:

Alabama delegate Terry Butts: "I'm from South Alabama, and we're used to dealing with jackasses, and so I look forward to making his acquaintance. In Alabama, there are probably a few good ol' boys who would know how to put a good knot on his head."

Louisiana delegate Carey Holliday: "I would be delighted if he slapped me. Because then I could defend myself. And it would all be on camera. He'd be hit from so many angles - he'd never even catch me. Four hundred-pounders move very slowly and with no wind at all. I'm 53 and in good shape."

Alabama delegate Rick Sellers: "I think I'm going to contact the officials with the convention and have his media tag pulled. This is ridiculous!"

North Carolina delegate Jim Cain: "The bomb squads and drug-sniffing dogs should give him a thorough once-over before letting him into Madison Square Garden."

Nebraska delegate Rod Krogh: "I doubt he's going to want to provoke people - I would assume he's a better judge of his body than that. I'm 6-foot-2 and 175 pounds. If we went to the mat, that's one match that I know my limits."

South Dakota delegate John Teupel: "If he's going to show up at the GOP convention, hopefully he has the sense and tact to act like a civilized human being. If he wants to get in my face, I'm plenty capable of getting back in his."

Mississippi delegate Field Bryant: "I was a deputy sheriff for five years, and I've dealt with a lot of people who have that mindset. But if he listens with his heart and his mind, he'll come out of there a changed man. Lord knows he needs some redemption."

Moore's spokesman, Mark Benoit, told Lowdown yesterday: "I think these people are speaking out of bravado....I think cooler heads will prevail. Once people talk to him, he's an intelligent, likable guy. I think anyone who's said those things, after spending five minutes with him, would come away with a different impression."

Full article may be found here: http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/226284p-194318c.html
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 03:57 AM
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1. How about free screenings of F911 at the MSG Theater?
Edited on Fri Aug-27-04 04:14 AM by BlueEyedSon
(for non-NYC peeps: the smaller venue next door)
:evilgrin:
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drhilarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 04:03 AM
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2. Listen to them...
It's all fear and violence. Pretty sad.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 04:10 AM
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3. They have plenty to be afraid of......
all the untold TRUTHS............
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 04:11 AM
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4. What do you expect

from the former school bullies? That's what these guys are, thats
the level of discourse they wish to engage in, and that's how their
"leaders" act on the world stage. In a battle of wits, they are
completely unarmed.
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Bark Bark Bark Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 04:11 AM
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5. Consider The Bill O'Reilly Example
Bill O'Reilly once farted out all this horsewind about how he'd shoot Al Franken if the conditions were right (you know, if there would be no prosecution--if Al were unarmed, had his back turned, and was blindfolded--and if Bill had a bellyful of "liquid courage" and twenty rednecks backing him up).

Then we see those lovely photos of Wild West Bronco Billy O'Reilly meeting up with Michael Moore. All smiles, hands shaken, smiles, everybody's happy...don't want no trouble, everybody's happy...

These bums talk a good fight, but we all know why they're called "chickenhawks." I was hoping one of these knobs would call fighting Moore a "cakewalk"...
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 04:15 AM
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6. A couple of my old college buddies are going to be
Edited on Fri Aug-27-04 04:29 AM by BullGooseLoony
there, making a documentary...one is actually a Democratic Party organizer. hee hee

I told em to be REALLY careful. I could see somebody just making the slightest misstep and getting pounded by the fascists in that place.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 04:23 AM
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8. Wouldn't it be ironic
Wouldn't it be ironic if the only violence occurred inside the convention center from delegates?

Stand up to them and make 'em froth. But be ready to duck if they swing!
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 04:19 AM
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7. *Sigh* What a bunch of bizarre men...
puffing out their chests and bragging about how heroic they would be if their pathetic, terrified, little fantasies actually came true.

And, heaven forbid, someone other than a BushCo media whore gets a press pass to cover their convention!
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 04:51 AM
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9. These 'delegates' sound
like they are straight out of the freep republic. I really would have expected them to show a little bit more professionalism since they are delegates and should have been capable of speaking with some tact or something instead of issuing threats like some 12 year old (not to insult 12 year olds). :shrug:
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 04:58 AM
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10. You'll remember that USA Today hired Ann Coulter to write
about the Dem Convention, then had to "fire" her because her article was so bizarre. She wrote somthing about sitting off to the side with the "pretty girls", or some such bizarre shit.

I'll bet the Dem delegates didn't threaten to deck her if she stepped out of line, though.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:10 AM
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11. Now, this is wonderful news.
Actually, I was hoping that I would get the job of being a live commentator. I would follow the true high moral standards set by the coverage of the Democratic convention.

A sample script:

****************

Gee Bob, did you hear what that Republi-KKK-lan ass-wipe just said?

I sure did Steve, and it just goes to show you that when their lips are moving, then they are lying.

And another thing Steve, there is irrefutable evidence that bush WAS a deserter during the Vietnam war.

Yes Bob, and I heard the Senate will be considering charges of treason against Dick Cheney for his involvement in the disclosure of a CIA operatives name for political purposes.

You are right again Steve, and it just goes to show you what cowards they are when they are not wearing those silly white pointy hats.

**************

Of course, this duologue would take place during the Key-note speakers speech.

Actually, maybe it IS better that Michael Moore would do the commentary.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 12:59 PM
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17. That is perfect!
Did you happen to see the MSNBC coverage during Al Sharpton's speech? I was absolutely shocked at the pundits scorn and sneers and their constant interruptions so that the speech couldn't actually be heard.

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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 02:43 PM
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19. Yes I did.
I kept switching channels to try to find a good one. CNN had that vile victoria clark, bob dole, wolf blitzer, and tucker carlson shooting off their mouths.

I did happen to see Al Sharpton get talked over, and I switched channels because I wanted to hear what he had to say. The second channel began to bitch because he was talking longer than scheduled.

I tried listening to NPR raido coverage of the convention as well. They had some dumb ass rebublicans who were in love with their own voice talking away right over the speaker I wanted to hear.

I called several stations, including 3 times at CNN to bitch.

I do NOT tune in to listen to what wolf blitzer thinks about when he takes a dump. I am tuning in to see and listen to the event.

very frustrating indeed
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:13 AM
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12. Amazing threats of violence! Did anyone at the DNC threaten Sean Hannity?
Hell, they had their hate radio jocks swarming all over the Fleet center, and nothing happened that I heard of. But let Michael Moore set foot anywhere near one of those delegates, and they'll pick a fight. You know it. THey're actually pumping themselves up for the chance to assault a liberal.

Unreal.
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Crazy8s Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:50 AM
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13.  Nope...
but Hannity was yelping about constant threats of violence from the protesters at RNC yesterday--claimed he had police protection because of all the 'death threats'. Like the protesters there give a rats patoot about that self-important weasel!
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 01:07 PM
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18. He got protection at the DNC too
I doubt anyone would have done anything to him, though. It's the power of suggestion that they WOULD HAVE, that he was attempting to get out to the public, by getting a bodyguard.

Wuss.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 06:03 AM
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14. I hope he has his camera crew with him.
Edited on Fri Aug-27-04 06:04 AM by in_cog_ni_to
He needs to have those rabid dogs on film. Show the American people those Christian values. What a bunch of idiots. Then again, they ARE voting for the chimp so we shouldn't expect anything more from them.

GO GET 'EM MICHAEL!!!!
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rullery Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 06:17 AM
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15. Moore needs to watch his back
Some of those good ol' boys from Alabama and Mississippi are probably Klan, and will be looking for an opportunity to stab Moore in the back, if they can. Maybe we will see a few white pointy hats at the convention too, or even a cross burning on stage. Wouldn't that wake America up to what these Republicans have become!
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Insomnicole Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 08:17 AM
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16. LOL!
Listen to the funny little roosters, all puffed up! You know that they'll run home crying to Mommie if Moore so much as looks at them funny. I've known winger types like this my entire life. They talk a good (and really loud) game and then pee in their pants and get all "No, no, man, I don't want any trouble!" the second they're confronted. I love it.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 02:49 PM
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20. they are so scared!!!
Edited on Fri Aug-27-04 02:50 PM by SemperEadem
"Alabama delegate Terry Butts: "...In Alabama, there are probably a few good ol' boys who would know how to put a good knot on his head.""

You mean you know a few thugs and low-lifes who would use violence to deprive one man of his right to his own views and his right to articulate it well to others.

The best they can do is to do what has come naturally to them since they were babies--rounding up a bunch of their friends to go do violence to ONE MAN--can't ever do it by themselves, got to have a group of cowards with them to equal one man.

Mediocre cretin.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 02:53 PM
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21. Wasn't This The Same Gig Coultergeist had in Boston?
And got tossed out of the convention and off USA Today with another one of her spiteful rants?

I'm hoping Michael isn't being set up to "even the score". While I can't see him being anywhere as invective as Anthrax Annie, who knows what will get GOOP noses out of joint next week. Moore could complain about the food and it'll be framed as he attacked Bunnypants again. Thus I'll be watching and reading closely.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 03:32 PM
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23. "Coultergeist" eh eh eh
Where hell is an exorcist when ya need one?
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 02:59 PM
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22. great response by Benoit
it's true, too. I'm sure a lot of people that have heard for a long time how evil and hateful Moore is are surprised when they actually see him speak, or see him in one of his movies.


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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 03:44 PM
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24. Exactly!
If they would just put down the baseball bats and torches for a second and LISTEN.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 03:45 PM
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25. It wouldn't surprise me at all if some liquored up cracker
took a swing at Michael Moore. If (when?) that happens, I hope the NYPD assists them directly to jail and the courts ensure that they make the acquiantance of some of the nice folks over at Ryker's Island.
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 04:08 PM
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26. Big Bad Michael Moore?
They all seem convinced that Moore will walk in there and start punching people. I presume they think this because that's what they would fantasize about doing if they got a chance to be around a group of Democrats? Or what? Where do they get these bizarre notions?

Do they think Moore's movies consist of Moore punching people on film?
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 04:18 PM
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27. full grown boys. that's all they are.
I get so sad when I see or hear about people who are SO insecure about themselves that their first reacion to any form of diversity is violence. How pathetic does your life have to be?
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 04:19 PM
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28. I am worried about Moore being there. But, I am sure he'll have body
guards.

He's one brave motha! :toast:
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 04:23 PM
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29. If you don't agree with me

I'm gonna kick your ass.

Gosh I sure do love Republicans...they make the world ...well, they fuck it up, but a few good laughs is valuable I think.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 04:23 PM
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30. Michael Moore's Open Letter to President Bush (sorry if it's old)
It Takes Real Courage to Desert Your Post and Then Attack a Wounded Vet

Dear Mr. Bush,

I know you and I have had our differences in the past, and I realize I am the one who started this whole mess about "who did what" during Vietnam when I brought up that "deserter" nonsense back in January. But I have to hand it to you on what you have uncovered about John Kerry and his record in Vietnam. Kerry has tried to pass himself off as a war hero, but thanks to you and your friends, we now know the truth.

First of all, thank you for pointing out to all of us that Mr. Kerry was never struck by a BULLET. It was only SHRAPNEL that entered his body! I did not know that! Hell, what's the big deal about a bunch of large, sharp, metal shards ripping open your flesh? That happens to all of us! In my opinion, if you want a purple heart, you'd better be hit by a bullet -- with your name on it!

Secondly, thank you for sending Bob Dole out there and letting us know that Mr. Kerry, though wounded three times, actually "never spilled blood." When you are in the debates with Kerry, turn to him and say, "Dammit, Mr. Kerry, next time you want a purple heart, you better spill some American red blood! And I don't mean a few specks like those on O.J.'s socks -- we want to see a good pint or two of blood for each medal. In fact, I would have preferred that you had bled profusely, a big geyser of blood spewing out of your neck or something!" Then throw this one at him: "Senator Kerry, over 58,000 brave Americans gave their lives in Vietnam -- but YOU didn't. You only got WOUNDED! What do you have to say for yourself???" Lay that one on him and he won't know what to do.

And thanks, also, Mr. Bush, for exposing the fact that Mr. Kerry might have actually WOUNDED HIMSELF in order to get those shiny medals. Of course he did! How could the Viet Cong have hit him -- he was on a SWIFT boat! He was going too fast to be hit by enemy fire. He tried to blow himself up three different times just so he could go home and run for president someday. It's all so easy to see, now, what he was up to.

What would we do without you, Mr. Bush? Criticize you as we might, when it comes to pointing out other men's military records, there is no one who can touch your prowess. In 2000, you let out the rumor that your opponent John McCain might be "nuts" from the 5 years he spent in a POW camp. Then, in the 2002 elections, your team compared triple-amputee Sen. Max Cleland to Osama bin Laden, and that cost him the election. And now you are having the same impact on war hero John Kerry. Since you (oops, I mean "The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth!") started running those ads, Kerry's poll numbers have dropped (with veterans, he has lost 18 points in the last few weeks).

Some people have said "Who are you, Mr. Bush, to attack these brave men considering you yourself have never seen combat -- in fact, you actively sought to avoid it." What your critics fail to understand is that even though your dad got you into a unit that would never be sent to Vietnam -- and even though you didn't show up for Guard duty for at least a year -- at least you were still IN FAVOR of the Vietnam War! Cowards like Clinton felt it was more important to be consistent (he opposed the war, thus he refused to go) than to be patriotic and two-faced.

The reason that I think you know so much about other men's war wounds is because, during your time in the Texas Air National Guard, you suffered so many of them yourself. Consider the paper cut you received on September 22, 1972, while stationed in Alabama, working on a Senate campaign for your dad's friend (when you were supposed to be on the Guard base). A campaign brochure appeared from nowhere, ambushing your right index finger, and blood trickled out onto your brand new argyle sweater.

Then there was the incident with the Crazy Glue when your fraternity brothers visited you one weekend at the base and glued your lips together while you were "passed out." Though initially considered "friendly fire," it was later ruled that you suffered severe post traumatic stress disorder from the assault and required certain medicinal attention -- which, it seems, was provided by those same fraternity brethren.

But nothing matched your heroism when, on July 2, 1969, you sustained a massive head injury when enemy combatants from another Guard unit dropped a keg of Coors on your head during a reconnaissance mission at a nearby all-girls college. Fortunately, the cool, smooth fluids that poured out of the keg were exactly what was needed to revive you.

That you never got a purple heart for any of these incidents is a shame. I can fully appreciate your anger at Senator Kerry for the three he received. I mean, Kerry was a man of privilege, he could have gotten out just like you. Instead, he thinks he's going to gain points with the American people bragging about how he was getting shot at every day in the Mekong Delta. Ha! Is that the best he can do? Hell, I hear gunfire every night outside my apartment window! If he thinks he is going to impress anyone with the fact that he volunteered to go when he could have spent the Vietnam years on the family yacht, he should think again. That only shows how stupid he was! True-blue Americans want a president who knows how to pull strings and work the system and get away with doing as little work as possible!

So, to make it up to you, I have written some new ads you can use on TV. People will soon tire of the swift boat veterans and you are going to need some fresh, punchier material. Feel free to use any of these:

ANNOUNCER: "When the bullets were flying all around him in Vietnam, what did John Kerry do? He said he leaned over the boat and 'pulled a man out of the river.' But, as we all know, men don't live in the river -- fish do. John Kerry knows how to tell a big fish tale. What he won't tell you is that when the enemy was shooting at him, he ducked. Do you want a president who will duck? Vote Bush."

ANNOUNCER: "Mr. Kerry's biggest supporter, Sen. Max Cleland, claims to have lost two legs and an arm in Vietnam. But he still has one arm! How did that happen? One word: Cowardice. When duty called, he was unwilling to give his last limb. Is that the type of selfishness you want hanging out in the White House? We think not. Vote for the man who would be willing to give America his right frontal lobe. Vote Bush."

Hope these help, Mr. Bush. And remember, when the American death toll in Iraq hits 1,000 during the Republican convention, be sure to question whether those who died really did indeed "die" -- or were they just trying to get their faces on CNN's nightly tribute to fallen heroes? The sixteen who've died so far this week were probably working hand in hand with the Kerry campaign to ruin your good time in New York. Stay consistent, sir, and always, ALWAYS question the veracity of anyone who risks their life for this country. It's the least they deserve.


Yours,


Michael Moore

http://michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?messageDate=2004-08-26
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