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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:00 PM
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Norville now covering Swift Boat Load on MSNBC
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Ghetto_Boy Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:02 PM
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1. Norville has never sucked...anything...ever... but..."BUSH SUCKS"
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:04 PM
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3. Gee Ghetto boy we got the message...bush sucks..enough already.
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:11 PM
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10. there are better ways to get your post count up
this one is boring
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:19 PM
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22. Nevermind
Edited on Thu Aug-26-04 08:25 PM by blondeatlast
nt

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:21 PM
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25. I Wouldn't Bet My Life On That (nt)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:25 PM
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31. Right you are. Thanks.
Edited on Thu Aug-26-04 08:28 PM by blondeatlast
Been here too long to risk it, especially just before the election!
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:02 PM
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2. This is so stupid .... people are interested in jobs, health care, etc.
and they are talking this to death..
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:05 PM
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4. So she has 2 ANTI Kerry vets on...
She has Gardner and Thurlow on. Both vets who appear in the ads and are anti-Kerry. And both are appearing from separate locations so it appears they are from two different sides. AAAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHH!!!! What scumbags.

Oh yeah, MSNBC is really turning towards the liberal side.
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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:05 PM
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5. geez, has Norville even done any research?
Gardner is going to have his way unopposed... this is bullshit.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:06 PM
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6. No, he has Thurlow there to back him up as well...
This is complete horseshit.

Straight up, FU to any of the MSNBC cheerleaders on here as of late. If this, plus Scarborough still being on doesn't convince you they still suck just as bad as the rest, I don't know what will.
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berner59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:07 PM
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7. another guy...
Vietnam historian...just said Garner wasn't on the boat on any of the days in question...so there!! I think she's trying to poke holes...go Deb!!
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:10 PM
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8. No offense, but if she wanted to poke holes...
She wouldn't be having 2 anti-Kerry vets on, against 1 "historian". That is a stacked deck and she (and MSNBC) know it.
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:12 PM
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12. it's "balance" to apologize for hardball and countdown
I turn the channel after keith is done.
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berner59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:14 PM
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15. I think she's on the historian's side...
She's not yelling but she sure is asking them questions that they can't back up and answer...
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Catt03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:10 PM
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9. This is sickening
the whole stupid medium of cable is sickening.

It is outrageous that the ignorant, hateful, immoral and mentally sick jerks on these shows can sway a presidential election.

I am so angry.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:11 PM
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11. She's kicking Repuke arse. Showing the sw liars for what they are, so far
Hope she keeps it up. Tonight's MSNBC line up has been awesome. CNN has totally lost my viewership. MSNBC has it as long as they keep telling the truth.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:13 PM
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14. Yes
at first, I thought it was Pro-Swifties.

I see how she lets them give their side, and then have the reporter give the facts and rip their lies to shreds.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:16 PM
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18. Wonder what those scum bag knuckle walking brutes were thinking
as pretty little Debbie led them into her trap!!! :evilgrin:
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 09:13 PM
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44. I was astounded...

She really surprised me! The not-so-swifties just looked stupid by the end of the segment. Though I'm not holding out hope this type of fairness will continue, the show was pretty good.
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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:15 PM
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17. Could you tell me more?
My husband was watching football! :) Thanks! Ida
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:18 PM
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21. She's confronting the liars with their lies. We know the lies.
Norville, so far, is nailing the scum.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:12 PM
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13. Thurlow Is A Pant Load (nt)
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:14 PM
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16. Now the Navy is mistaken?
And we are supposed to believe that EVERYONE involved is lying except the repuke smearboat assholes? They better roll up their pants...the shit's getting awfully deep. :grr:
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:17 PM
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20. That's been
my arguement all along...I keep asking righties if the US Navy is lying...and no one...NO ONE...gives me a straight answer...

I hope the NAVY steps in and go's after these guys hard...
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:24 PM
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29. I'm waiting for someone to ask a Republican - Kerry's medals don't prove
he performed heroically under fire, how can Bush's honorable discharge prove that he completed his service?

After all, if all it takes to get a medal is to tell the military any old story, how hard is it to get an honorable discharge?
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:22 PM
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26. Norville is doing a good job.
Showing how the second swiftliars ad is taken out of context. And she has Ian Williams on... he is the author of "Deserter" (dumbya = deserter, I believe).

I swear, if I ever run into that s***bag Gardner, I will kick him in the groin.... repeatedly.
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 09:19 PM
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47. Exactly my point to a friend today...

He's former Navy. For some bizarre reason we're friends and argue politics all the time.

I pointed out to him that the entire Navy is basically backing Kerry's position via documentation and/or the recollection of people who were actually THERE for the events in question. Surprisingly, that shut him up for a brief moment. :-)
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:17 PM
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19. They should be apologizing for perpetrating a fraud on the public
It's been CONFIRMED that they're CONSPIRATORS and LIARS. Why are they still getting major airtime???

:mad:
rocknation

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:20 PM
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24. Swift Boat Conspiracy
Sounds like an accurate name for that load.
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berner59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:22 PM
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27. She's doing a great job...
Now she's playing the whole testimony for viewers to hear the context of his speech...

She smacked these guys down...all they're trying to do is shout back and she's telling them to stop and let the others finish...
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 09:24 PM
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48. She could have done this "great job" two weeks ago
Edited on Thu Aug-26-04 09:27 PM by rocknation
The only reason she's doing it now is because Kerry has been vindicated. But in all fairness, I think Kerry should have handled this two weeks ago, too.

:headbang:
rocknation
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:20 PM
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23. Thurlow's changed his story AGAIN!!!
He just said that his boat released a furious barrage of gunfire toward the banks - this was his pathetic effort to explain why the crew member who saved his life was awarded a medal for pulling Thurlow out of the water while they were under fire.

Funny. Last week he said there was NO gunfire and that the only reason his own citation said otherwise is that Kerry wrote the report.

"Last month, Thurlow swore in an affidavit that Kerry was 'not under fire' when he fished Lt. James Rassmann out of the water. He described Kerry's Bronze Star citation, which says that all units involved came under 'small arms and automatic weapons fire,' as 'totally fabricated.'

"'I never heard a shot,' Thurlow said in his affidavit, which was released by Swift Boats Veterans for Truth.


Washington Post, August 19, 2004

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:23 PM
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28. That perked my ears up earlier
Made me wonder why they would do that. For grins? Or because they thought there were enemies out there? What a cabal of babble!
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berner59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:26 PM
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33. This may be mean...
And I have respect for any veteran...but these guys really seem stupid, unintelligent...and I almost feel sorry that these guys to have been blown into this...used by Bush...they just call him names and look more stupid...
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 09:27 PM
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49. on edit, self-deletion
Edited on Thu Aug-26-04 09:32 PM by susanna
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:25 PM
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30. Chris Matthews needs to see this!
email the info to him!!!

hardball@msnbc.com
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 09:12 PM
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43. Who were they shooting at???
Their reflections?

MzPip
:dem:
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:26 PM
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32. I WANT TO STRANGLE THAT POS
"gardner"

what a lowlife scum!!!
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MirrorAshes Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:28 PM
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35. He was so flat and transparent.
John Kerry is a liar, a charlatan, blah blah freakin blah. He wasn't convincing at all, just came off as a bitter, angry old man.
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:30 PM
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36. She's giving them way too
much time to spew. Gardner (the latecomer) is having the time of his life. Why doesn't she ask him why Kerry threatened to have him hauled up on charges?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:30 PM
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37. I'm glad she asked if they felt they should apologize
to all veterans because their swift boat smears have fallen on all veterans. And the answer was no. POS is right!

The response from our side asked the question why it was okay that Bush* didn't serve, didn't finish his TANG service and lied about his service. This really is hard to take but Deb is doing a good job.

I watched a little of Jerry Brown debate Bill Bennet on Hannity and Combes earlier. Better to watch Deb. At least Jerry yelled at Bennet that we should be examining Bennet's life and doings. Otherwise, my pressure jumped too high.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:28 PM
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34. Thurlow Needs To Move On...
The man has a tude and appears to be capable of violence...
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:39 PM
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40. Definitely something being held down
He looks like he could spring up at any moment. And not just for this issue. He makes me uncomfortable.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:43 PM
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42. He's A Scary Fella...
I hope the authorities are watching him ....


He's a true believer.....


O'neil's in it for the thrills......
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:34 PM
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38. These Swifties are coming off as
bitter, broken, jealous (insanely jealous) losers.
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:36 PM
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39. Just
plain insane.
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MirrorAshes Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:41 PM
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41. exactly!
just as they are.

Its funny how Gardner accuses him of perjury and noone even takes him seriously.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 09:19 PM
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46. They sure are!
When Debra said Kerry went on to have a good life, one of those losers (I don't know which one, they were off camera) commented sarcastically "he sure had).
LOL, that's is what they are jealous off-John Kerry having a good life.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 09:18 PM
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45. They did it again
This is what Rove wants. He wants Dems attacking Vets.

This whole SBV is a valid issue, but we are falling into Rove's trap. By focusing our response on the Vets themselves, rather than the WH's role in this whole fiasco is a big, big mistake.

Keep your eyes on the prize, this is all about beating Bu$h.
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 09:29 PM
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50. Right! That's just what Kerry has done - and that's why he had to wait
He couldn't get into a mud wrestling match with these idiot veterans - he had to let Bush get too close to them and when he did, Kerry pounced.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 09:31 PM
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51. Take the high road
you will always win in the end.

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