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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:01 PM
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Hillary should call out those PUMA's in her speech
She should say they are not democrats and are possible GOP plants.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:02 PM
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1. Just tell them the truth: McCain is using them, just like he uses all the women in his life.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:14 PM
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How true.
NGU.



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iconicgnom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:47 PM
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35. Yes, she should lay down the smack on McCain, and the Limbaugh-Republican-weasels who support him.
There's nothing that would boost her stature more than confronting this Republican disinformation/smear campaign head on, eviscerating it with a point by point explanation why it is in essence dishonest and disingenious and contemptable. She could do this while AT THE SAME TIME attacking McCain, while AT THE SAME TIME promoting the Democratic ticket -- in fact that's the only way she could do it well. She would do well by her cause and the cause of the whole Dem party by totally disassociating herself from those who use her name to try to bring down the Democratic party.

That's what the times and circumstances call for. I'll be listening to her speach from the edge of my seat, hoping she does right.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:02 PM
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2. No- she should focus on praising Obama and tearing down McCain/Bush
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:04 PM
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4. the media is running wild about how Hillary supporters are disrupting everything
She can do much to stop that discussion and destroy the idea of former Hillary supporters voting for McCain.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:05 PM
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7. Marrah's right: the best thing she can do is ignore them and focus on the convention
And on McCain.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:05 PM
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8. But not during a primatime convention speech- This has to be about Obama
Not about whatever drama the MSM is attempting to create.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:24 PM
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31. I agree. If she were to address them during her speech tonight it would be playing
into their hands by putting the focus on them and not on Obama.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:03 PM
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3. You want her to call out a few hundred people ?
Is their voting block that big that you need worry about it?
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:05 PM
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6. no, I want her to point out that it is just a few hundred
Not like the media that is trying to portray it as a large movement.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:10 PM
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17. So you want her to legitimize them?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:04 PM
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5. If someone is obsessed with you, what's the worst thing you can do?
Give them attention. It legitimizes them. I wish posters would get that.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:06 PM
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10. I think the media has already done their best to legitmize them
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:07 PM
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14. The Media is also the one obsessing -- that's the point
Ignoring them is the best thing.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:06 PM
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9. Yeah, I wonder what their presence means to her.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:06 PM
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11. I wish Hillary would tell the PUMAs to STFU and go home
In more polite terms, of course.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:07 PM
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13. She has asked them to support Obama
They are refusing to listen.

No one can force them.

They are a very small crowd.

The MSM is manufacturing drama for ratings.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:09 PM
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16. thats what I am trying to say
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 12:10 PM by LSK
She should point out that they are small in numbers, they are possible GOP plants and not even Hillary supporters and that it is overblown drama.

Maybe not appropriate for a Convention speech, but what other chance will she have to point this out to such a huge audience?
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:13 PM
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21. We are just not going to agree on how to deal with this problem.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:06 PM
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12. And then she would be called out for giving credence
to a bunch of sad sacks.I doubt very much that the Obama campaign would have any interest in her even mentioning the word "PUMA".
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:08 PM
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15. Exactly what I said upthread -- exactly right
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:14 PM
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24. It's so common sense,I'm amazed anyone would
believe otherwise.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:11 PM
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18. She would be burned alive on here if she did that at the convention
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:15 PM
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26. No, no, no. "Just ignore them" was the critical failure of Kerry '04
Obama has been all about responding and responding forcefully to the Rovian bullshit machines. What Hillary should do is say something to the effect that "people who claim that they are my supporters and declare that they will now vote for McCain were never really my supporters in the first place", which would cut the legs right out from the "Clintonians for McCain" movement.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:36 PM
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33. I understand what you're saying,I'm not sure it
would be as effective as you think it would. My gut feeling is that both Clinton and Obama understand that this is a slippery slope.It would reduce her whole speech to an admittance that there are Clinton supporters who will vote for McCain, as if there are great numbers of them,the MSM will ignore anything else said and focus on that.The whole point of her speech is to close the gap,not highlight it.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:36 PM
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34. Dupe.
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 12:41 PM by sufrommich
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:12 PM
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19. Hillary on voting Republican video clip...
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:13 PM
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22. All Hillary need say is we are unified and ready to win this. We must show a united front.
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 12:14 PM by barack the house
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:15 PM
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27. A lot being said about Hillary is to divide us she has rejected McCain's ad. Let's declare untiy ...
it's important.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:12 PM
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20. So, she should give them prime-time publicity?
I think not.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:16 PM
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29. 2004 may have turned out quite different
If John Kerry had firmly and unequivocably slammed the Swifty vermin in his convention speech.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:14 PM
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23. She probably will do just that....n/t
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:14 PM
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25. She's already told them to support Obama, but I've heard some say they don't care
what she says.

How can they not care what the woman they support says?

I'm not sure there's anything she can say to them.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:27 PM
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32. Because they don't truly support her. They are using their supposed
support of her to cause division and strife in the Democratic party. Hillary is just the name they hide behind.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:15 PM
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28. She should call them out, but not by saying that
She should tell them to vote on issues and tell them that they are hurting this country by supporting McCain.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:20 PM
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30. She COULD do this outside of the official Convention agenda...
Like with a morning news conference, brief but unmistakably clear.

She could do this, but then she could have done it last week, too.

Better to not bring it up in Pepsi Center, I think.
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