Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

you want serious terrorists? here's your answer to Bill Ayres:

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 05:16 PM
Original message
you want serious terrorists? here's your answer to Bill Ayres:
Edited on Sun Aug-24-08 05:31 PM by Gabi Hayes
Carl Lindner, who's so crooked, he screws his pants on every day

Carl Lindner Funds Terrorist Group and John McCain
By Michael Lang on Jul 3, 2008 in Featured

Carl H. Lindner Jr., the co-host of a recent top-dollar fundraiser for Sen. john mccain oversaw the payment of roughly $1.7 million to a Colombian paramilitary group that is today designated a terrorist organization by the United States.

Late last week, Lindner co-hosted a $25,000-per-person fundraiser for McCain and the Republican Party in the wealthy Indian Hills neighborhood of Cincinnati, Ohio. The event raised about $2 million; Lindner also serves on McCain’s Ohio Victory Team.



The Cincinnati billionaire businessman, was CEO of Chiquita Brands International from 1984 to 2001, and remained on the company’s board of directors until May 2002. Beginning under his tenure, Chiquita executives paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to the United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia (known by the Spanish acronym AUC), which is described by George Washington University’s National Security Archive as an "illegal right-wing anti-guerrilla group tied to many of the country’s most notorious civilian massacres."

Following a Justice Department indictment last year, Chiquita admitted to illegally funding the paramilitaries and agreed to pay a $25 million fine. Chiquita’s payments to the AUC began in 1997 and lasted seven years; roughly half of the funds came after the group was designated a Foreign Terrorist Organization by the U.S. State Department in 2001.

According to the Justice Department, the payments "were reviewed and approved by senior executives" of Chiquita, who knew by no later than September 2000 "that the AUC was a violent, paramilitary organization."


You want more? check the first post, in order to keep this one short.....

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 05:19 PM
Response to Original message
1. That should be enough reason for anybody NOT to vote for McSame.
Yet another right-wing, corporate, military-junta supporting hypocrite, who wants to help elect someone who will continue to support his corporate thievery.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 05:22 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. beat me to post number one......where's the media, of course, and WHERE are the dems??????
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 05:25 PM
Response to Original message
3. Why the f*** isn't the MSM talking about this?
Don't bother to answer, it was a rhetorical question. I know why.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 05:26 PM
Response to Original message
4. more sources here, including a Kos link that's mostly leveymg
Edited on Sun Aug-24-08 06:00 PM by Gabi Hayes
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:22 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. dunno about the provenance of this site, but some of what I've read here
Edited on Sun Aug-24-08 06:23 PM by Gabi Hayes
checks out elsewhere, including this, which brings up the Octopus:

Zapata and United Fruit--the "Octopus"?

Reports in the business section of the Houston Chronicle shed some insight on what was happening with Zapata, even though Bush has alleged that he sold his 6% interest in the company in 1966. According to a Houston Chronicle article by Albert T. Collins on January 20, 1969 (the date Richard Nixon was inaugurated), Zapata Norness, Inc. (formerly Zapata Off-Shore) had been seeking to acquire United Fruit Co. stock by offering to exchange one share of convertible stock for every share of United Fruit stock tendered to it. A competing offer to purchase stock had been made by AMK Corp., which was recommended by officers of the fruit company. The following week, after Zapata had already received almost 31,000 shares, AMK Corp.’s chairman, E.M. Black, and Zapata Norness reached an agreement whereby AMK would pay Zapata $3.8 million to withdraw from competition for United Fruit. AMK would buy all United Fruit stock which Zapata had purchased, in cash up to $3 million and would execute a promissory note for any amount in excess of the $3 million, payable at 6-7/8% interest in 10 equal annual installments.

Eli M. Black, who became the CEO of United Fruit as a result of AMK’s acquisition, in 1975 "fell" to his death from his office on the 44th floor of New York's Pan Am building. A week later it was disclosed he had paid $1.25 million into a Swiss bank account on behalf of the president of Honduras in exchange for a $1-a-box banana export tax reduced to 25 cents. Two weeks later the government of Honduras fell, and the company' stock hit its lowest level of the century. Black’s son, Leon Black, who as of 1996 was head of Apollo Advisors, used to head Drexel Burnham Lambert's mergers and acquisitions department. He once declared his purpose in life was to create the robber barons of the future, according to Mother Jones.

After Eli Black’s death in 1975, Carl Lindner took over United Brands and appointed Max Fisher as chairman. Fisher amassed his fortune as a bagman for the "Purple Gang" that smuggled Sam Bronfman's booze from Canada into the speakeasies of the Midwest. Fisher made his "legitimate" fortune in the oil retail business in Michigan, through Keystone Oil, Aurora Oil, and Marathon Oil and then became one of the first Jewish businessmen who was a major donor and fund-raiser for the Republican Party. In 1984 Cincinnati financier, Carl H. Lindner, who owned 65% of the company, installed himself as chairman, put his son Keith in charge of Chiquita and moved the headquarters to Cincinnati, where he nursed the company back to financial health.

A somewhat different account of those years is evident in an article written by Monica Perin for the Houston Business Journal (see http://houston.bizjournals.com/houston/stories/1999/04/26/story2.html ), which is quoted below. It contains no reference to David Murdock, the biggest shareholder, nor does it mention anything about the attempt to buy United Fruit.

http://www.newsmakingnews.com/lindaminor/lm3,19,02harvardtoenron,pt1.htm

Bronfman, Lindner, Marley, Hensley....McCain, anyone?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:33 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. I knew this had to have been discussed before, but I was away, and never saw it:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 05:29 PM
Response to Original message
5. Pass it on!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:21 PM
Response to Original message
6. Alert the media; they're sure to cover this!
:sarcasm:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:25 PM
Response to Reply #6
9. does it infuriate you as much as it does me that the dems refuse to
Edited on Sun Aug-24-08 06:51 PM by Gabi Hayes
touch all the ancillary figures in McCain's web of corruption?

instead, they just SIT there and allow the pugs to spew the Ayres/Rezko crap, instead of hitting back HARD with information on the really serious MONSTERS like Lindner, Keating, Marley, Bronfman, etal, with ties to MCC?

not to mention 'petty crooks' like Diamond, Betts, and Ruskin....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:44 PM
Response to Reply #9
12. It's not over by a long shot. Patience! nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:54 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. I hope so, but aren't you a little wary of the old "keeping the powder dry" syndrome?
especially since the media are, as always, failing to put these stories out where they should be, given that they've actually been reported in major papers?

instead, they go with the garbage like Biden's son being a lobbyist, when McCain has over A HUNDRED FIFTY working for him!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:22 PM
Response to Original message
8. k&r (nt)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:35 PM
Response to Original message
11. Lindner was one of the Keating 5 slime buckets. .
Carl Lindner, an Ohio billionaire with CIA and underworld connections who owned Chiquita Bananas, was Charles Keating's original partner, banker, and mentor. Lindner got Keating wrapped up with schemes involving the usual cast of BCCI characters, shady Saudi bankers, the Bush family, and Iran-Contra money laundering. Keating was always a sort of pass-through guy, without any real money of his own. But, a lot of money flowed through Keating to McCain and his wife, Cindy, in an Arizona real estate scam. Lindner who was recently convicted of financing Right-wing death squads in Colombia, is still giving big, dirty campaign checks to McCain. Now, that's a story that the American people need to hear.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3833716
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #11
15. thanks for that one.....much more comprehensive than this.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:47 PM
Response to Original message
13. Lindner?
He owned the Cincinnati Reds at one point. I'm a huge Griffey fan so that's the only reason I know that. Sounds like a total slimeball. This is the type of thing we need to start hitting them with if they want to bring up Rezko and Ayers.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 10:53 PM
Response to Original message
16. obama is seeking justice department relief for that billionaire's Ayers ads
do they know about Lindner?

they'd better by now.....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NEM Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 10:56 PM
Response to Original message
17. My congratulations to you..................
.......For finding this. I don't know how far it will go, but it is good to have it available in our arsenal.

Nice find.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 10:57 PM
Response to Original message
18. Bill Ayers is a respected Chicago professor.
Despite his unfortunate past, Ayers is a well-known figure in the community - and if he is turning people into anti-Americans, somebody had better let the other Chicago politicians (including Repukes) know.

LOL.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon Apr 29th 2024, 11:35 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC