Does Rush's Operation Chaos have a part in the polls about Hillary voters.

[cindyw]

Hearing about these polls in the MSM that show the percent of Hillary voters who support Obama, I can't help but wonder what the criteria is by the pollsters for establishing who is a "Hillary voter".

MSNBC was saying that only 54% of Hillary voters are supporting Obama and that 20 something percent are saying they will vote for McCain. So how many of these people intended to vote for McCain from the beginning? I think that it is unfair that no mention is made of this Operation Chaos phenomenon is mentioned when they mention these polls.

I do not believe that 25% of 18 million voters (supposedly Democrats) are switching to supporting the Republican party in this current political climate. Don't you think it would be a bigger story if 5 million Dem voters intended to switch to Republican. Polling about party identification does not reflect this.

I am not saying that no legitimate, dem Hillary supporter would vote for McCain, I just do not believe that there are 5 million of them.

[blogslut]

1. It's the anti-story to deflect the real story

There is no contest. Democratic registration, voting and participation is up something like double-to-three this year over repubs. That is the real story.

[Thrill]

2. no its a real issue

Obama is up with independents. Which means if Democrats would come home. He would be running away with this. Their negative attacks seem to only be working amazingly with the Hillary supporters.

[cindyw]

3. Im not saying its not a real issue, but I wonder if the numbers would look

less impressive against Obama is someone considered the Chaos effect on these polls. I want to see a poll on how many Republicans now voting for McCain voted for Hillary. That number of 54% would look a lot impressive if it was 70% because you took the ditto heads out.

[Andy823]

4. I don't buy it either.

There were a lot of republicans that were in on Rush's operation chaos, and they registered as democrats so they could vote for Hillary, just like Rush asked them to. How many there were is still debatable, but I think they are the main force behind all the trouble going on now, and they will also be behind any problems that come up during the convention. Rush just wants to be able to start something, and he hopes it will snowball into "riots in the street" so he can have something to talk about. The man is crazy!

When it comes time to vote, I can't see any "real" democrat voting for McCain. If McCain wins the country is in big trouble, and any true democrat will come to their senses by elections time, of that I am sure.

Republicans are going to use every dirty trick they can to cause problems, we just have to show them it won't work, and Hillary can have a major part in that by standing up at the convention and telling all her supporters that she is behind Obama 100%, and anyone who supported here should also be behind him. It's pretty much in her ball park now.

[griffi94]

5. imo the operation chaos thing

doesn't play into it all that much. there are a lot of conservative democrats who probly wouldn't have voted for hillary, and won't vote for obama either.
i saw on one of he pundit shows that out of the holdouts who have yet to break for obama 40% are men, that's hardly the bitter dead end old woman vote that many people say make up the pumas.
i think a good many people may still have questions about obamas experience.
maybe the choice of biden as veep will help with that.

on the same pundit show i saw where a lot of voters who identified themselves as democrats and were voting for all down ticket democrats were either undecided about obama, or not voting obama. when a generic democrat was polled against a generic republican, the democrats won in a landslide. however when it was a head to head to poll mccain against obama it broke down to right where it is now.

[GoesTo11]

6. Seems like it must have some effect. Let's do the math.

About 1/3 of Democratic primary votes were cast 3/4 or after. Maybe 25% of Hillary's voters at this time were republicans or republican leaners trying to screw up the Democratic primaries. So in those states, if they ask 100 hillary voters who they support, 25 started out supporting mccain. So the 54% for Obama is really 54/75 or so, something like 70%-75%, not great but not quite so bad. And out of that same 100, McCain's 27% support would really mean 25 operation chaosers and 2 really switching democrats, while the rest are real undecideds.

[cindyw]

8. It's exactly the math that makes me wonder.

The news is using these to say he is failing, even though he is still winning in the polls.
The MSM keeps saying that the Dem party is too divided. I just don't see that in my everyday. The people I know who say they liked Hillary, but are supporting McCain are long term Republicans who now say they are Independent.

[democrattotheend]

7. Could be. Also, I think some people are lying.

I thought about this the other day. If Hillary Clinton were the nominee, I would definitely vote for her, but I would probably still be a little upset after such a contentious primary, and I might not tell a pollster I was voting for her, because I would want her to have to earn my vote and not take it for granted. I am not sure if many people think as strategically as I do, but I would be there are some Hillary supporters who will most likely end up voting for Obama but want to make his campaign sweat a little by telling pollsters they are undecided.

[GoesTo11]

9. Or maybe republicans tell pollsters they voted for Hillary

so they can exaggerate the story in the polls. Have any of you Rush Limbauh listeners heard him recommend doing that?