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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:30 PM
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If people were truly 'HIllary Supporters" they wouldn't be looking to derail Obama's campaign
I've met plenty of folks who supported Clinton in the primaries. And after a week of groaning, moaning & bitching when Clinton dropped out, these people ultimately choose to support Obama.

So I have an EXTREMELY difficult time when I see people labelled as "Hillary Supporters" due this crap against Obama in the name of Hillary. Say what you will but Hillary has stated she is there to support Obama. Sure, she's not one of the biggest supporters on the team but she is on our team. So why would these people be going against the person they claim to support.

I have to think that the true democrats who supported Hillary are on our team with Obama. But I personally think that there was so much drama the last 18 years about all this talk by the right-wing screeds about 'Hillary Could Be President' scare tactics that these anti-Obama 'Hillary Supporters' are nothing more than offshoots of the right-wing trying their last ditch effort to get Hillary as the candidate. I mean these screeds have made careers out of talking about Clintons, Writing about Clinton and building entire careers on all things anti-Clinton (I'm looking at you Dick Morris). One wonders what these poor souls will do if Obama gets elected, which may put Clinton's presidential elections on the permament back-burner?

So please, do not call these hateful, spiteful, NOT DEMOCRAT, anti-Obama people as Hillary Supporters. It they truly supported her they would be joining her in helping get Obama elected.
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darius15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:31 PM
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1. Thanks for your thoughts
and I do agree with them, but I think we've had enough of this kinda talk on this forum.
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:35 PM
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5. If anyone who claims to be a dem is having a part in electing mccain, we need to address it.
nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:33 PM
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2. They're part of Rush's Op Chaos. They are not real Dems. The
platforms couldn't be more different, are not interchangeable, and a true Dem wouldn't even fathom voting for McBush.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:35 PM
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4. What is Rush going to do if Hillary isn't running for president anymore?
that's been his career pretty much. Sure, he'll bash the dems, but it loses something when there isn't a Clinton to blame or frighten the right-wing sheepies with.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:36 PM
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7. He's going to become even more irrelevant. Hopefully. nt
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:52 PM
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14. The polls clearly show. The Hillary supporters are holding out. Especially
the new OH poll. Where Obama would simply be kicking his ass?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 02:09 PM
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22. Holding out for what, and how can anyone consider them Dems
if they're going to vote for all we abhor, out of spite? Makes no sense to me. If they feel that strongly, don't vote, but don't vote for 4 more years of the same. b.s. we've been subjected to and complained about for the past 8 years.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:34 PM
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3. An edited headline might express your point better
Maybe "It's a slander to pretend that people looking to derail Obama's campaign are actual Hillary supporters."
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RedShoes Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 01:10 PM
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20. true. nt
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:35 PM
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6. Some people want revenge on the world so they want to trash the place.
I hope they come to their senses and see that they have to live here too.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:37 PM
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8. The point of all those OP's is to bash Hillary
so they have to put "Hillary supporter" in there or they don't achieve their intended purpose.
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 02:31 PM
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24. Yeah, that's why the OP praised Hillary, ya dumbfuck.
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Growler Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 02:55 PM
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25. what did Ignored say??
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:37 PM
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9. I, too, find it very difficult, if not damn impossible, to see these "supporters" as anything...
other than the dregs of the Operation Chaos campaign. These people are HURTING the Clintons, hurting Hillary by their vile words and actions and that can only be DELIBERATE. Hillary has stated she FULLY supports the Obama/Biden ticket and REAL supporters would and have accepted that and move on with her, imo.
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:38 PM
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10. Agreed!
n/t
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:39 PM
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11. Agreed the ones left grousing are not Hillary supporters
They are using her as an excuse nothing more. Unfortunately Clinton has given them just enough skirt to hide behind.

All of that will pretty much end his week though as the convention plays out.
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RedShoes Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:47 PM
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12. Why do you capitalize the "I" in Hillary?
It's not the first time I've seen you do this, and I am wondering if it is a dig or not. The primaries are over, dontcha know. Of course, it could have been just a mistake, but it is an often made one at that. Sorry if I'm reading into something I shouldn't be. :hi:
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bain_sidhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:54 PM
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15. Probably a slow pinky finger
Didn't let up the caps key fast enough.

Or, it's a secret coded "dog-whistle" that only the initiates know.

:shrug: you decide.
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RedShoes Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 01:10 PM
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19. well, that's sort of why I was asking.
The thing being in quotes too, was another reason. That's what ?s are for, right?
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:50 PM
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13. Look I've met the same and some ARE tempted to vote for McCain.
Edited on Sun Aug-24-08 12:55 PM by vaberella
I understand you and there are many like you who are strong HRC's and support Obama if not 100% at least to gain the WH. I respect that.

However, for lack of a better word for some of the others within the camp who are still bitter, angry, racist, and hate-mongers---some of which who don't even like McCain but still hate Obama and love HRC so much they will act stupid over it...they are still HRC supporters until you can think of a more fitting name for them.

Further more the some of the anger and frustration from this board on those so-called HRC supporters is ONLY directed to those HRC supporters and not the gamut of them nation wide which would be ludicrous. The ones that some of us here who are having contention with these so-called direct our posts to them and not the others who have come or will be supporting Obama in the future.

I'm an Obama supporter who started off as HRC who was originally an Edwards supporter. I didn't like her campaign or health care and changed over. So I do understand HRC supporters and have plenty of friends. Two of which would be the annoying "I might vote for McCain" ones. One is debating and the other really doesn't like Obama.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:59 PM
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16. Two words: Health Care
Obama has already made her place clear for that effort. So I don't believe that Sen. Clinton wants to see Obama lose. Therefore, what we're seeing is intentional disruption, imo.

Oh sure, there's a loyal segment that does still support her. But I feel that they're being fueled by right wing operatives and money.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 01:04 PM
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17. Agreed. Anyone who is not on board with the ticket is NOT a Democrat.
They might have been a Democrat once upon a time, but they're not one now.

Real Democrats got on board after Hillary conceded. This is not something new. It's the way we've done it for decades. We fight hard. Everyone loses but one person. They run the show, they pick the VP, and we get behind them. Win, lose or draw, that's the game plan.

Time to call the GOPers and the DINOs posing as Democrats frauds.
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 01:05 PM
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18. I agree completely!
Real Dems know full well that McLame is not gonna do anything to protect a woman's right to choice or any other aspect of women's rights for that matter. I fail to see how ANY legitimate Clinton supporter can possibly say they will vote GOP in this election.

Maybe a feminist would vote Green if they were completely bitter with the DNC. Maybe they'd go third party, but NEVER GOP because that is an anti woman platform and it has been for the last thirty years.

This whole "PUMA" thing reeks of a manipulated media thing that is calculated to keep the anger alive from the Primary--nothing more.



Laura
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 01:12 PM
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21. I agree.....
... those who are not going to vote for Obama were not going to vote for Obama period end of story etc.

Nobody that is a Dem is going to vote for that giant douchebag moron McCain, anyone who could never was a freaking Dem to begin with.

This is a non-story being trumped up by the media and the Republican party. They wish it were true.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 02:24 PM
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23. well, now that one of her supporters and former head of the Montgomery Co. Dem Party is suing
to keep Obama off the ballot saying he is not a citizen, I think it's safe to say that some of her supporters are in fact Democrats, although in his case, not someone that can be appealed to on any rational basis.
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