How 'bout that "picking Biden means Obama is admitting he isn't qualified" spin?

[Honeycombe8]

I gotta hand it to 'em....that is really a clever spin that I didn't see coming. Oh, I think it's a weak spin. But clever.

I'm guessin' they were ready with SEVERAL spins, depending on who Obama chose.

If it had been HRC, it woulda been...."picking Clinton means that Obama is admitting that he can't win on his own."

If it had been someone else, it woulda been yet another variation on that spin.

I think they're worried. They're saying anything and everything they can think of.

Obama/Biden.....go get 'em.

[Cosmocat]

1. Sorry, saw that coming ...

from a mile away.

Being the intellectually dishonest scumbags they are, they were ready to go with:

1) The most unqualified ticket ever

OR

2) BO needed an experienced hand to give him the experience he doesn't have.

This will pass (MUCH MORE NONSENSE TO COME), because he has been open about saying he wants the most qualifed and best people aroun him.

[eshfemme]

2. Doesn't it say something bad about the Republicans when their spin is so predictable?

I mean after so many years of this kinda of politics, Americans are starting to get bored with it, right? I mean, I am. It's kinda weird to wish that the other side would be smarter about things.

[Deja Q]

3. Or why not Obama/some military general dude?

If national defense and all that is the numero uno concern...

With Biden, I only recall the DMCA (a good idea poorly implemented and maintained) and the Bankruptcy "reform" bill that won't help decent people and as far as I recall ignores abuses. Trump that. :D

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

7. You can bet your ass that the same statements won't be made about McSame if he chooses Mittens

He has all but admitted that he knows little about the economy, lied about making the statement even though we have him on tape and Russert caught him lying about it! But of course the media will never assert that McSame is admitting that he is weak/unqualified.

The economy is STILL Americans' #1 issue.

[Joe Chi Minh]

4. Imagine what they'd be saying if Obama hadn't chosen a VP with 30 years experience.

"ow, 2 inexperienced guys!" Even though Obama's got more than enough experience to excel in the job; and in any case, the guy next door would do less damage than any Republican.

[grannie4peace]

5. mcshit IS scared of Biden

and he ought to be.... patience--barack knew exactly what he wants. a government FOR the little people, BY the little people.... we've got two MIGHTY warriors on our side--we need to mobilize behind them and complain about unfair coverage everywhere we see it. if we handle those responses from the trenches, obama & biden will frame our . mostly the ignorant voters who have forgotten who built this country. & make sure the world knows

[mwb970]

6. Republicans are *so* predictable.

Whenever they have a right-wing shill on one of the cable news shows (which is extremely often), I am able to predict the answer to each and every question before the wingnut even opens his mouth.

"Do you think this will cause a problem for Obama?"
"Yes." (No matter what "this" is.)

"Do you think this will come back to haunt McCain?"
"No." (Again, regardless of what "this" refers to.)

"This looks bad for the Republicans, doesn't it?"
"No, in fact it looks bad for the Democrats."

"Are you worried about the choice of Biden as Obama's VP?"
"No, it shows how desperate Obama is."

I could go on, but I'm sure you do the same thing when you see these clowns on the tube. I know this is like asking why the NY Times continues to run columns by Bill Kristol, but why do they bother having these people on when every answer is not only misleading, but is completely predictable by the audience members?

I suppose I should mention for completeness that Democratic campaign spokesmen are pretty predictable as well, though it's easier to take because they generally back up their opinions with facts, a practice that is completely absent on the right.

[rox63]

8. So if McCain picks a younger guy for his veep nominee

I guess that shows that McCain knows he's too old for the job, right? Same logic should work for both, right? :shrug:

[Honeycombe8]

9. Well, I didn't see it coming. ALL candidates choose VPs who bring something to the ticket...

who fill some gap, add to some geographical territory, shore up some weakness. That is one of the things all candidates look for.

So it is silly to say that the Prez candidate selected so-and-so because he is admitting he is unqualified. It's just a silly statement. That spin would apply to every single President the country has ever had. That's why it's silly.

[TheCowsCameHome]

10. Aren't VP's chosen to plug any gaps?

One should be able to offset the others weaknesses.

[opihimoimoi]

11. McSmugs Quiver nearly empty...Obama.Biden have an enormous AMMO DUMP

Its all over but the shoutin

[flpoljunkie]

12. There's always a counter argument, no matter how weak, to disguise their fear of Obama/Biden ticket

They should be worried. It is a formidable, kick ass ticket.

[babylonsister]

13. I think it makes them look panicky...they had to somehow pick on

whoever got the VP nod, but don't have that much to work with.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6724215&mesg_id=6724215

The latest piece from Ron Fournier, the AP's Washington bureau chief and the man responsible for directing the wire service's coverage of the presidential campaign, on Joe Biden joining the Democratic ticket, is drawing a fair amount of attention this morning. More importantly, McCain campaign staffers are pushing it fairly aggressively to other reporters, in large part because it mirrors the Republican line with minimal variation.

By choosing Biden, Fournier argues, Barack Obama is showing a "lack of confidence," and is siding with "the status quo."

There are two ways to consider Fournier's piece: substantively and in the broader context.

First, on the substance, Fournier's analysis seems a little lazy. By his logic, any potential running mate shows a "lack of confidence" -- picking Hillary would mean Obama lacked confidence in his ability to win over women voters; picking Bayh would mean Obama lacked confidence in his ability to win over independents and conservative Dems; picking Webb would mean Obama lacked confidence in his ability to win over voters concerned about national security; picking Kaine would mean Obama lacked confidence in his ability to win over voters in the South; etc. For that matter, "the status quo" in Washington has been conservative Republican rule. Biden may be an old pro and a DC insider, but he's anything but "the status quo."

Second, in context, Fournier's objectivity covering the presidential race continues to look shaky. We are, after all, talking about a journalist who, as recently as last year, considered working for the McCain campaign.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_08/014385.php#more

[goddess40]

14. What's that smell? I believe it's desperation nt

[GoesTo11]

15. As if there's something wrong with having a capable VP

If he hadn't picked Biden, the spin would have been that he felt threatened by Biden.

The Rs have truly become 100% spin, 0% substance.