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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 01:35 PM Original message |
So Why Did This Long-Time Critic of Bill Clinton Support Hillary for VP? Why? |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. A) You don't know that he DIDN'T tell her weeks ago and B)..... |
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Beregond2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
2. Oh, please. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
3. All that counts, the only God Damned thing that counts... |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Winning is why a unity ticket was important. I hope we'll win anyway, but we have less chance with |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. At what point do you quit belly-aching over this? |
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LowerManhattanite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
38. Two words... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
41. NEV- |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 01:38 AM Response to Reply #5 |
65. Bill? you are getting good at the internets... |
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Baltoman991 (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 02:00 AM Response to Reply #5 |
70. So |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. We may well be able to learn lessons from the past, and that knowledge might help us to |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 02:36 AM Response to Reply #3 |
75. This sort of weird Orwellian thinking freaks me out on this board. |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
4. I'm sorry that you don't feel the excitement for Biden that most of us do. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
6. Yup. It's all about you. buh-bye. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
34. Always and forever! |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
8. I really do hope this is the last day we go through this exercise. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Word. |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
27. Another Ohioan who feels seconds that emotion! |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
32. wise words |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
42. Thanks for that report on O-hi-o Jen.. |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
11. You seem to think that anyone actually cares. |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I care. |
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RTBerry (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Seconded. |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I care. |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Yes, but you seem to think having a vagina trumps all other considerations. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Deleted sub-thread |
TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #11 |
36. the deadenders care! |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
13. Bill WON states like Ohio, Arkansas and Florida, and his stewardship of Dem party LOST THOSE STATES |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
33. I lived in Ohio during that time period |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 05:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
48. Ohio Democrats had NO national party supporting them. They were another state left to collapse |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. we coud have had Jesus himself helping us |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 04:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
43. So many are just interested in sound bites like |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
14. How do you know that Hillary wasn't told weeks ago? |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
15. Nominated. |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 01:27 AM Response to Reply #15 |
64. ...and right on cue. |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
16. Hi David. I'm absolutely certain that the Obama campaign |
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RTBerry (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
18. IMHO the Clintons' upcoming high-profile convention participation shows they've been in the loop. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
20. As always, we Democrats thank you for your concern. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. David is a Democrat |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
56. Your opinion of his "points" differs greatly from mine. nm |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
22. Why are we still at "Hillary Supporters" vs. the rest of us? |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. because he loves to stir up drama |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #22 |
35. He voted for Obama and repeatedly posted for him |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Shiver me timbers! nt |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 04:37 PM Response to Reply #22 |
44. A- |
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publicatlarge (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 01:57 AM Response to Reply #22 |
69. You do realize that 'whining' is |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 08:57 AM Response to Reply #69 |
77. All the more reason for it to have long ago ceased. nt |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
24. K&R |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
26. Well at least you don't have to write these posts anymore |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
28. Take care, my friend. |
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Chloroplast (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. You may not understand this but you say things that REALLY get people riled up. |
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blue_onyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. He may not owe Hillary anything but |
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blue_onyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 05:14 PM Response to Reply #28 |
49. I agree about the 3am thing |
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KAZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #28 |
54. That's not constructive criticism. Just blasting the ticket. |
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A-Schwarzenegger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
29. That's the most beautiful story I ever heard. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
30. ... his truth is marching ONNNNNNNN! |
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Sancho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
40. Kudos for being objective! Kicked... |
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RollWithIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
45. Hillary Clinton supports the Biden VP pick... why don't you??? |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
46. "the sum is always greater when you add, then when you subtract" |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
47. If she needs to have a VP slot dangled in front of her to get her to campaign |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
50. Why is it always the "Hillary-Haters" who have to change their tune? |
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barack the house (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
52. Barack has shown himself a leader he had to do what he wanted ---> |
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barack the house (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
53. Sorry but this post sounds like a panic attack be calm work for the ticket fear invites misfortune-> |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
55. HUGE K&R!! |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
57. You fail to recognize Obama's strong point: Picking the right people for the job. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
59. imo it was clear from the get-go that Hillary wasn't being considered for veep... |
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Hatchling (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
60. As a Hillary supporter who once had you on ignore... |
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writes3000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 01:24 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. As an Obama supporter who was intrigued with Hillary as VP, thanks for the post. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
61. My issue is this: |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 01:40 AM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Krispos, I've seen entirely too many Obama supporters here announce, during the primaries, |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 01:47 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Then UNITE with the party already...... |
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writes3000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 02:15 AM Response to Reply #66 |
72. It would have helped with Dems at the expense of Independents. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 02:37 AM Response to Reply #66 |
76. I know stuff was said on both sides |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
62. Have a good week |
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publicatlarge (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 01:54 AM Response to Original message |
68. Excellent post, David... |
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Metric System (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 02:10 AM Response to Original message |
71. Reading through these comments is disheartening. Yes, Obama gets my vote, but I don't see how any of |
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qwlauren35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 02:19 AM Response to Original message |
73. I agree in many ways. |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 02:27 AM Response to Original message |
74. Thanks for a thought through post |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
78. Why are we still talking about Obama supporters |
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