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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 09:32 PM
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Women voters are the swing voters in this election.
Anybody see Anita Hill on Debra Norville last night talking about this? I usually can't stomach NOville, but I had to stay on with this topic. Anita Hill was saying how women are basically the "glue" (pharaphrasing here) in the family and many issues like healthcare, education, and of course their children are hot topics that need to be addressed. Got me thinking...while all these vets are running around spewing their testosterone, most women are saying :eyes: give me a break, we have families to take care of--move the hell on with this crap. :freak:

I was discussing this with a guy at our DNC today and he said funny you should mention this, 'cause his grandfather told him women will determine this race. I say he's right.

Deborah NOville was saying how both candidates needed to address this in order to get that vote:eyes:
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mconvente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 09:39 PM
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1. I think woman are key, but I really think the young voters will decide
The new celebrity ads from MoveOnPAC are going to be more influential than most people think. With so many teeny-boppers and obsessed girls going nuts over celebs these days, if their celebrity love (say Ben Afflack) is voting for Kerry, then she could consider that too. I'll admit that such an occurance is really shallow, but hell if it gets votes for Kerry I'll take it. Also, the hip-hop community is overwhelmingly Democratic. In some instances where politics and voting are considered a waste of time in inner cities, if their idol of hip-hop (a la Russel Simmons and also P-Diddy) are leaning toward Kerry (it's pretty obvious) then the black community's young voters will vote the way P-Diddy does - more votes for Kerry.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 09:42 PM
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2. I also think it will be young newly registered voters
I've met several in recent weeks and they aren't motivated to support Monkeyboy.
I don't think they're counted in polls, either.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 09:44 PM
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3. I say--get 'em to the polls!
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mconvente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 09:45 PM
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4. Already in the works
One of my friends (a Kerry supported, though not as excitedly here - he's a little reserved) is helping teens get registered to vote for his Eagle Scout project. An excellent idea.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 09:45 PM
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5. That's interesting considering that tomorrow is the anniversary of
Edited on Wed Aug-25-04 09:48 PM by no_hypocrisy
American women's right to vote.

That's right: August 26, 1920
Amendment XIX:
(1) The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.
(2) Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Let's not let down Susan B. Anthony, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Lucy Stone, Alice Paul, and countless other suffragettes who went to prison at times to attain the right to vote.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/section/womansuf_IntheUnitedStates.asp
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mconvente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 09:53 PM
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6. That reminded me...
We still do not have an equal rights amendment asserting the equality of woman and men. It was shot down in the Senate (well actually they let the pending vote expire) in the late 70s (or early 80s). Kind of shocking that the "land of freedom and equal opportunity" still infringes Black voters in the south and does not proclaim woman equal in status to men in the Constitution.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 09:55 PM
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7. Well, there are more women so it's up to women to save this nation.
Too many white men in the US are in love with *.
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cidliz2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 09:55 PM
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8. I agree with you
While Bush was trying to appeal to NASCAR, Kerry has a very feminine appealing candidacy: Teresa is really liked by many women, Elizabeth and John Edwards are both attractive to women (for different reasons of course), Kerry's daughters and Edward's daughter, all very much young women to be proud of. The two small Edwards children are picture perfect and most appealing to many woman. Even the 12 year old girl at the convention.

I think that the women, will decide this election. Mothers don't like sending thier children off to war either and Bush holds the responsibility for that.

Women voting numbers outweigh Men voting numbers, so while many men see to like the plain talking, shoot from the hip asshole, women are generally more attracted to a man that shows strength AND softness, intelligence also helps with women, sometimes I think that many men just like the "man's man" type - whether they agree with them or not doesn't really matter as long as a guy is a guy.

I know that this sounds sexist, but really in the most general of terms this really holds merit.

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mconvente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 09:58 PM
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9. Plus
What about the men these woman are married too. If my girl is gonna be that passionate about life and issues, then we're definitely gonna share opinions!
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 10:04 PM
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10. I totally agree
Edited on Wed Aug-25-04 10:04 PM by devrc243
look at how many NFL players support Bush. There is a definite pattern to who supports him. Kerry's numbers are almost in double-digits with support among women. I can't imagine a woman supporting Bush if she cares for her children's education, health and security. No child left behind is a joke--it didn't work in Texas and it isn't working now.

This is where the "guts" of this election should be, not the vets.

I used to organize support groups for families of nursing home residents. 9 out 10 would be women who showed up.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 10:23 PM
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11. True, but Kerry not getting traction
His campaign to appeal to women is a non-starter so far. Its very disorganized. The campaign seems to have the same old ideas that all women will vote for Dems, a fatal mistake.

Here's hoping they wise up soon and get a real women's campaign going.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 10:26 PM
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12. yep, I agree
Edited on Wed Aug-25-04 10:28 PM by devrc243
I have to say after hearing Antia Hill, it did get me thinking that we can't take this vote for granted.

I think 3-5 talking points need to be honed in on. That would be a start. And this isn't just to get "a vote" but to really address what women feel are the most important issues today.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 10:26 PM
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13. This election is fascinating to me
Both campaigns seem to be targetting mens' vote. I don't see much appeal to women and any ads targetted to single women. Women are the majority voters and single women can sway this election. I would guess the strategy is to shore up the machismo and then start on the traditional domestic issues that matter to women. Those 'soft' :eyes: issues like jobs, food, healthcare, and education. I wish I could sit in on some of these strategy sessions. I think I would get so angry at the stereotyping.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 10:30 PM
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14. I would love to sit in on them too.
Edited on Wed Aug-25-04 10:31 PM by devrc243
I think they are putting these issues on the back burner. It's email time...:)
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