Well it looks like Housegate has flopped. McSame actually gained a point in the polls.

[Carrieyazel]

In the latest Rasmussen Poll its Obama now up by just a single point, and McSame actually gaining in the electoral college count in the last 24 hours.

I can't believe this.

[babylonsister]

1. Baloney. Rasmussen is a constant flop. nt

[CatBO]

16. LOL - it hasn't even been a full day in the news cycle!

And already the chicken littles are sobbing and whining again.

Amazing.

[flpoljunkie]

32. Exactly! It's too early to know, but it could be a 'game changing' McCain gaffe.

On the order of the 'grocery store scanner' gaffe of George H. W. Bush.

[CTyankee]

63. Ah but Rethugs think it's a GOOD thing to have 10 houses!

Didn't you know that?

[yardwork]

76. Those are the Rethugs who will always vote Rethug. House-gaffe will not play well with the undecide

[Zynx]

2. You really panic far too easily.

All scandals take days to be felt in the polls.

[zanne]

3. Well, I literally don't believe it. nt

[denem]

4. Oh yes you can

... and couldn't wait to post GOP spin.


Nice Try.

[annabanana]

5. housegate is still rolling out. . . n/t

[Radical Activist]

6. A single point change in any poll is meaningless.

Its within the MOE. In fact, polls this early are all generally meaningless.

[Spazito]

7. LOL, a little advice...

use some good lotion on those hands of yours, from all the wringing they are doing they must be rubbed raw by now.

[bunkerbuster1]

15. It's OVER! ABANDON SHIP!

we're looooosing!

[Spazito]

38. We're DOOMED! The world is DOOMED1!!!

:rofl:

[beac]

42. Isn't it spelled "DOMED"?

;)

Oh Noes!

[Spazito]

43. ROFL! Damn, I forgotted that! n/t

[Orsino]

8. It just started. We won't know until next week whether the media give it legs. n/t

[GarbagemanLB]

9. Wow. That is pretty pathetic of you. One point? It COULDN'T be random fluctuations! The SKY IS

FALLING!

[WeDidIt]

10. What about "three day rolling average" don't you get?

Can you even do math?

[goodhue]

11. Housegate is just getting started, polling won't pick it up for a few days

eom

[TwilightGardener]

12. Jesus, The Housing Crisis wasn't going to plummet him in the polls

all by itself overnight--Obama is going to create a narrative over the rest of the campaign that will do him in: Phil Gramm, $50/hr lettuce, etc.

[bunkerbuster1]

$50/hr lettuce? What's that you say?

just kidding. Love to see it being picked up here, let's hope it gets out some more.

[TwilightGardener]

23. If the Obama camp doesn't use it, they are guilty of total incompetence--

to me, it is even more damaging than the Mcnopoly gaffe. I remember reading about it on Free Republic last year, couldn't understand why they always called him "McLettuce"--of course, that was back when they hated him and thought Fred Thompson was going to be the Great White Hope.

[bunkerbuster1]

44. Did you know that Fred Thompson got hitched to his trophy wife...

in a church belonging to the same denomination as Barack Obama's?

Ok, it's a fleeting coincidence, but I just felt like tagging it on.

"Incompetence" might be a tad strong. There is so much to pick from when it comes to McCain's record, but obviously, since I started stirring up this shit on the $50/hour lettuce thing, I really, really want it out there. I find it insulting on a visceral level, and have since I first heard it ages ago.

[DuaneBidoux]

51. Oh yea, video of that would kill him, absolutely kill him.

And if they don't use it they are indeed incompetent, not something, considering the way we have run the last two presidential campaigns, I would doubt.

[NatBurner]

13. polls, shmolls

[book_worm]

14. You have to understand that those tracking polls take time for the public opinion to formulate

and that a poll taken yesterday is just one day and when did this become a story? most of the poll respondents probably hadn't heard anything about it until later in the day.

[H2O Man]

17. Right.

Thank you.

[grannie4peace]

18. it ain't over yet, ye of little faith!!!!

[BeyondGeography]

19. Don't be a dope

See you after the convention.

[saltpoint]

20. That's vapor arithmetic. McCain's houses will hurt him over the course

of the next week or two way more than today's polling suggests.

[Lautremont]

21. It just appeared in my local paper this morning.

Patience must you learn.

[AuntPatsy]

22. Ignore those supposed polls, like the 2000 and 2004 election results

they are not to be trusted, you should realize just what they are doing, paving a way for another way to attempt to steal "09" it would be foolish to ignore that very real possibility...

[InNeedOfUserName]

24. polls LAG by 2-3 days from an event... nm

[olkaz]

25. Relax, spaghetti monster christ.

These things take time to develop.

[NashVegas]

26. You Think?

I was listening to the "Free Beer & Hot Wings" show this morning. Guess who they were hammering?

[seasat]

27. Ras daily tracking polls are based on a three day rolling average

That poll is an average of Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday. We probably won't see clear effects on McCain's numbers until Friday.

Daily tracking results are collected via telephone surveys of 1,000 likely voters per night and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. The margin of sampling error—for the full sample of 3,000 Likely Voters--is +/- 2 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Results are also compiled on a full-week basis and crosstabs for the full-week results are available for Premium Members.

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

28. what the hell are you talking about? [let it sink]

[Renew Deal]

29. The story ble up mid day yesterday

But besides that, your post is crap.

[blondeatlast]

30. There's great performance art--and there's everything less, which is always lousy.

Your post is considerably <great.

[highplainsdem]

31. It's too early for Housegate to have much impact, if it will help us much. It might help a little,

but I believe DUers and the Obama campaign are overestimating the impact on the voters most likely to vote for McCain anyway.

And since it gave the McCain campaign an excuse to bring up the help Obama got from Rezko, it was essentially a wash for us, especially because some of the media reviews are emphasizing that the campaign has become "nastier."

Here's John Dickerson's take on it in Slate:

http://www.slate.com/id/2198381


Both the VP announcement and the start of the convention will lessen the impact of Housegate, too.

The VP choice will have much more impact.


By the way, the tracking polls average polling over the last few days, so you have to wait a few days for the impact of any event.

[yardwork]

33. Oh for crying out loud. Educate yourself about the polls.

1. There's always a lag factor. When was this Rasmussen poll done? Prior to the house thing, I would guess.

2. There's always a large margin of error. A one point shift is meaningless.

3. There are serious questions about the accuracy of the polls. Intentional and unintentional bias appears to be rampant.

Take all poll results with a huge grain of salt. Stop obsessing over them.

[scheming daemons]

34. Um... the poll comes from BEFORE housegate..... settle down

[Ganja Ninja]

35. Don't mind me if keep kicking the dead horse a little longer. n/t

[RedShoes]

36. give it time to stew and bubble, my dear...

quit expecting instant gratification.

[City Lights]

37. Give it time.

Sheesh. :eyes:

[NYC Liberal]

39. It only started hitting the news yesterday afternoon!

Wait a few days and then see where we are.

[book_worm]

40. congrats, this is the first downer thread I've seen today.

[saltpoint]

41. McCain handed us -- and the late-night comics -- the line of the year.

As long as foreclosures and economic strife continue to be frontpage news, McCain The War Hero means a lot less.

And the 'Obama is an elitist' smear goes nowhere.

Big plus for the Democrats.

[Ediacara]

45. So this poll was taken this morning and released this morning?

[redqueen]

46. Yup... and McMansion's revealing answer only hit the airwaves yesterday.

Let it simmer a week or so...

[Ediacara]

54. Well that was my point: polls are always released a few days after they're taken

This house thing was on the news yesterday night. No poll released this morning is going to reflect that.

[redqueen]

55. Yup ... I was agreeing with you.

:)

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[FrenchieCat]

49. She's not. Never has been. And has never pretended otherwise....

one of those dark cloud that I normally avoid.

[DuaneBidoux]

50. No offense but with a thousand plus posts I doubt it.

[thewiseguy]

52. I remember that day when Obama was gaining ground on McCain in gallup and..

She was terribly upset about it. We in fact questioned her motives back then but she managed to stay under the radar for some time.

[redqueen]

57. That's a joke, right?

:rofl:

[DuaneBidoux]

68. Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean they're a troll.

I hate to be as fast to draw a negative opinion about someone I don't agree with as a 'Puke. When I find myself doing that I know I am going somewhere I don't want to be.

[redqueen]

77. Fortunately that has nothing to do with what I said.

You asserted that having a high post count was a sign that someone is not a troll.

That's absurd.

[GoesTo11]

48. McMansiongate is the perfect lead-in to the conventions

Not for gaining points today, but for establishing the narrative that it's been too long that we've had the rich ruling class screwing everything up.

[DefenseLawyer]

53. Is this a joke?

I can't tell anymore.

[democrattotheend]

56. The polls usually take a day to catch up

Because it's a 3-day rolling average. The first day after Bittergate broke there was no impact, then Obama went down the second day.

[leftynyc]

58. It hasn't even been 24 hours

You really need to chill.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

59. Did you know that John McCain can't remember how many houses he has?

Anyway, two things.

1. There's a thing called "statistical variation." Look it up. Warning: big words.

2. It's too early to tell anything.

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[democrattotheend]

61. Obama did not buy his house for under market value

He bought it for less than the original asking price, but that's typical in real estate transactions. The house had been on the market for a while, so it obviously wasn't worth what the sellers initially asked.

[yardwork]

62. Gosh you're right. Anybody could forget how many houses they have. I do it all the time.

I can never remember...is it seven? Ten? Maybe an even dozen? It's so hard for me to keep track of all my houses.

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[yardwork]

71. Thank you for your concern. Obama has one house and one home.

[babylonsister]

72. So you're defending McBush? Why are you HERE? nt

[yardwork]

73. That one has left the building. Eating a granite cookie. Called out for pizza.

[babylonsister]

75. Oops! Thanks! Must have taken a wrong turn. : ) nt

[yardwork]

78. Got lost searching for its employer's house.

[Jersey Devil]

67. Is this a cross post from Freeperville?

LOL, thank you for your concern!

[Bonobo]

64. I looked over your previous posts. You seem to be very fond of McCain.

Obama? Not so much.

As Vonnegut says, and I paraphrase here:

"Why NOT go take a flying fuck at the MOOOOOOOON?"

[blondeatlast]

66. Indeed. nt

[Erin Elizabeth]

65. I'm going to say it as many times as it takes:

LOOKING AT POLLS THIS EARLY ON IS NEXT TO USELESS.

Why do people drive themselves crazy over polls in freaking AUGUST????

If you're that worried, ramp up your volunteering time for the campaign.

[Erin Elizabeth]

69. And after scanning some of your previous posts:

nevermind. You obviously aren't doing anything useful for the Obama campaign at all. Take a flying leap.

[CJCRANE]

74. John "10 Homes" McCain. John "100 Years in Iraq" McCain. John "$100 million inheritance" McCain.

John McCain by the numbers.

[Teaser]

79. 1 day? Are you a doofus?

.