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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 12:34 AM
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Kerry's Smear Fighting Campaign Sent Out an Email
I posted it in the Politics/Campaigns folder.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=108

It's trying to draw attention to some congressional campaign smears around the country, and to encourage people to submit them to the website, so they can try and fight them.

http://www.truthfightsback.org
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 12:46 AM
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1. John Kerry is fighting the good fight and we DUers should help him ...
...any way we can.

K & R
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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 01:10 AM
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2. fighting the good fight...
he should have fought 4 years ago.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 01:11 AM
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3. lesson learned for him then I guess
Thanks John!
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 01:18 AM
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4. true. He lived and learned. That's all any of us can do. He's one of the few Dems...
...fighting for Obama - too many others are tearing him down or doing nothing.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 08:40 AM
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6. Bullshit - YOU and every Dem lawmaker, left media and left blogs should have fought that fight
Edited on Fri Aug-22-08 08:43 AM by blm
the way Kerry and his supporters always fight FOR Dem candidates and the Dem nominee.

And NO Dem nominee ever hit back harder than Kerry did, when Kerry attacked Bush for hiding behind the swifts and challenged Bush to instead debate their services during Vietnam publicly.

But no Dem lawmaker, left media source, or left blogs backed him up and furthered his attacks on the swifts and Bush, did they? In fact, many of you who call yourselves Dem activists don't even KNOW it happened and side with the corporate media revisionis that claims it never happened. Which proves YOU were not doing your job and furthering Kerry's attacks when YOU should have been in 2004. Your claiming it never happened proves you did nothing when it did, because IF you did back up Kerry then, you wouldn't have bought the revisionism of the corpmedia.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 08:47 AM
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7. Why DO you side with corpmedia's deceit, anyway? Why do YOU further their con job on the American p
Would corporate media refuse to air major speech from a Dem nominee, then claim it never happened?


Edited on Tue Aug-19-08 04:52 PM by blm
Well, this day four years ago....August 19, 2004, that exact thing happened. Kerry was speaking to the Firefighters Convention, a friendly and fired up crowd whose union had endorsed Kerry early in the primaries and whose opinion carried a lot of weight post 9-11 as they were more engaged than ever in this nation's policies. Made for TV moments, until the press caught wind that Kerry would be attacking the swifts and accusing Bush of hiding behind them, and Kerry would be challenging Bush to debate their services during Vietnam instead of letting the swifts do his dirty work.

Then something strange happened. After receiving Kerry's prepared remarks, not one news network aired the speech. And few reported it during their daily coverage, and the clips of that speech never made into regular rotation for that day's news coverage or the next. Yet, for the last few years we have heard from too many media folks that "Kerry never responded to the swifts." Yet, no one can provide ONE INSTANCE where a Dem nominee ever challenged a sitting president to debate the smears instead of hiding behind those doing the smearing. That was real hardball, but corporate media needed to pretend it didn't happen when it happened, and still need to keep up the ruse so they are not found complicit for the coverup.

It's up to us to watch out for Obama's back EVERY SINGLE DAY. The press is NOT here for the people, they are in service to the fascist agenda of those who sign their paychecks.


From the prepared remarks of the Dem nominee Aug.19, 2004:

"...And more than thirty years ago, I learned an important lesson—when you're under attack, the best thing to do is turn your boat into the attacker. That's what I intend to do today.

Over the last week or so, a group called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth has been attacking me. Of course, this group isn’t interested in the truth – and they're not telling the truth. They didn't even exist until I won the nomination for president.

But here's what you really need to know about them. They're funded by hundreds of thousands of dollars from a Republican contributor out of Texas. They're a front for the Bush campaign. And the fact that the President won't denounce what they’re up to tells you everything you need to know—he wants them to do his dirty work.

Thirty years ago, official Navy reports documented my service in Vietnam and awarded me the Silver Star, the Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts. Thirty years ago, this was the plain truth. It still is. And I still carry the shrapnel in my leg from a wound in Vietnam.

As firefighters you risk your lives everyday. You know what it’s like to see the truth in the moment. You're proud of what you’ve done—and so am I.

Of course, the President keeps telling people he would never question my service to our country. Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded attack group does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service in Vietnam, here is my answer: "Bring it on."

I'm not going to let anyone question my commitment to defending America—then, now, or ever. And I'm not going to let anyone attack the sacrifice and courage of the men who saw battle with me.

And let me make this commitment today: their lies about my record will not stop me from fighting for jobs, health care, and our security – the issues that really matter to the American people..."





May 4, 2004. The Kerry campaign held a press conference directly after the "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" event. (Above are, r-l, Wade Sanders, Del Sandusky and Drew Whitlow). Senior Advisor Michael Meehan said, "The Nixon White House attempted to do this to Kerry, and the Bush folks are following the same plan."

The campaign provided an information package which raised significant questions about "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth." Spaeth Communications, which hosted the event, "is a Republican headed firm from Texas which has contributed to Bush's campaign and has very close ties to the Bush Administration." Lead organizer John O'Neill, a Republican from Texas, "was a pawn of the Nixon White House in 1971." Further some of the people now speaking against Kerry had praised him in their evaluation reports in Vietnam.

John Dibble, who served on a swift boat in 1970, after Kerry had left, was one of the veterans at the Kerry event. He said of Kerry's anti-war activities that at the time, "I didn't like what he was doing." In retrospect, however, Dibble said, "I probably should have been doing the same thing...probably more of us should have been doing that." He said that might have meant fewer names on the Vietnam Memorial and that Kerry's anti-war activities were "a very gutsy thing to do."
>>>>>>


Kerry campaign's quick response to Swift boat vets
By Marie Horrigan
UPI Deputy Americas Editor
Washington, DC, Aug. 5 (UPI) -- The campaign for Democratic Party presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts issued an exhaustively researched and extensively sourced 36-page refutation Thursday of allegations Kerry lied about events during his service in Vietnam, including how and why he received medals, and had fled the scene of a battle.
>>>>>>>

Kerry: Bush lets attack ads do 'dirty work'
McClellan points out criticism by anti-Bush group
Friday, August 20, 2004 Posted: 2:37 PM EDT (1837 GMT)
BOSTON, Massachusetts (CNN) -- Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry accused President Bush on Thursday of letting front groups "do his dirty work" in questioning his military service during the Vietnam War.

"The president keeps telling people he would never question my service to our country. Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded attack group does just that," Kerry told a firefighters' union conference in his hometown of Boston.

"Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service in Vietnam, here is my answer: Bring it on."
>>>>>>>

Talking Points Memo noticed what Kerry did...must have been watching Cspan.
(August 19, 2004 -- 01:26 PM EDT)

WELL, IT SEEMS there wasn't something in the air.

I didn't know the Kerry campaign was finally going to return fire today over this Swift Boat nonsense. But this morning, in a speech to the International Association of Fire Fighters in Boston, he responded squarely to the attacks. You can see complete text of the speech and the new response-ad they're running. But the key point is that he aimed his remarks at precisely the right target ...

Over the last week or so, a group called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth has been attacking me. Of course, this group isn?t interested in the truth ? and they?re not telling the truth. They didn?t even exist until I won the nomination for president.
<...>


This is a good thing -- and not simply because Kerry has to respond to the president's surrogates who are trying (and, to an extent, succeeding) in damaging his candidacy with scurrilous and discredited attacks.

There is a meta-debate going on here, one that I'm not sure even the practitioners fully articulate to themselves and one that I'm painfully aware the victims don't fully understand.

Let's call it the Republicans' Bitch-Slap theory of electoral politics.

It goes something like this.

On one level, of course, the aim behind these attacks is to cast suspicion upon Kerry's military service record and label him a liar. But that's only part of what's going on.

Consider for a moment what the big game is here. This is a battle between two candidates to demonstrate toughness on national security. Toughness is a unitary quality, really -- a personal, characterological quality rather than one rooted in policy or divisible in any real way. So both sides are trying to prove to undecided voters either that they're tougher than the other guy or at least tough enough for the job.

<…>

This meta-message behind the president's attacks on Kerry's war record is more consequential than many believe. So hitting back hard was critical on many levels.
>>>>>


Yes...the corporate press corps knew EXACTLY how important this issue was and that is WHY they needed to downplay it and keep Bush protected from Kerry's challenge to debate their services during Vietnam. Who was the press corps serving?


Altercation Book Club: Lapdogs by Eric Boehlert
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Relatively early on in the August coverage of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth story, ABC's Nightline devoted an entire episode to the allegations and reported, "The Kerry campaign calls the charges wrong, offensive and politically motivated. And points to Naval records that seemingly contradict the charges." (Emphasis added.) Seemingly? A more accurate phrasing would have been that Navy records "completely" or "thoroughly" contradicted the Swifty. In late August, CNN's scrawl across the bottom of the screen read, "Several Vietnam veterans are backing Kerry's version of events." Again, a more factual phrasing would have been "Crewmembers have always backed Kerry's version of events." But that would have meant not only having to stand up a well-funded Republican campaign attack machine, but also casting doubt on television news' hottest political story of the summer.

When the discussion did occasionally turn to the facts behind the Swift Boat allegations, reporters and pundits seemed too spooked to address the obvious—that the charges made no sense and there was little credible evidence to support them.. Substituting as host of "Meet the Press," Andrea Mitchell on Aug. 15 pressed Boston Globe reporter Anne Kornblut about the facts surrounding Kerry's combat service: "Well, Anne, you've covered him for many years, John Kerry. What is the truth of his record?" Instead of mentioning some of the glaring inconsistencies in the Swifties' allegation, such as George Elliott and Adrian Lonsdale 's embarrassing flip-flops, Kornblut ducked the question, suggesting the truth was "subjective": "The truth of his record, the criticism that's coming from the Swift Boat ads, is that he betrayed his fellow veterans. Well, that's a subjective question, that he came back from the war and then protested it. So, I mean, that is truly something that's subjective." Ten days later Kornblut scored a sit-down interview with O'Neill. In her 1,200-word story she politely declined to press O'Neill about a single factual inconsistency surrounding the Swifties' allegations, thereby keeping her Globe readers in the dark about the Swift Boat farce. (It was not until Bush was safely re-elected that that Kornblut, appearing on MSNBC, conceded the Swift Boast ads were clearly inaccurate.)

Hosting an Aug. 28 discussion on CNBC with Newsweek's Jon Meacham and Time's Jay Carney, NBC's Tim Russert finally, after weeks of overheated Swifty coverage, got around to asking the pertinent question: "Based on everything you have heard, seen, reported, in terms of the actual charges, the content of the book, is there any validity to any of it?" Carney conceded the charges did not have any validity, but did it oh, so gently: "I think it's hard to say that any one of them is by any standard that we measure these things has been substantiated." Apparently Carney forgot to pass the word along to editors at Time magazine, which is read by significantly more news consumers than Russert's weekly cable chat show on CNBC. Because it wasn't until its Sept. 20 2004 issue, well after the Swift Boat controversy had peaked, that the Time news team managed enough courage to tentatively announce the charges levied against Kerry and his combat service were "reckless and unfair." (Better late than never; Time's competitor Newsweek waited until after the election to report the Swift Boat charges were "misleading," but "very effective.") But even then, Time didn't hold the Swifties responsible for their "reckless and unfair" charges. Instead, Time celebrated them. Typing up an election postscript in November, Time toasted the Swift Boat's O'Neill as one of the campaign's "Winners," while remaining dutifully silent about the group's fraudulent charges.

That kind of Beltway media group self-censorship was evident throughout the Swift Boat story, as the perimeters of acceptable reporting were quickly established. Witness the MSM reaction to Wayne Langhofer, Jim Russell and Robert Lambert. All three men served with Kerry in Vietnam and all three men were witnesses to the disputed March 13, 1969 event in which Kerry rescued Green Beret Jim Rassmann, winning a Bronze Star and his third Purple Heart. The Swifties, after 35 years of silence, insisted Kerry did nothing special that day, and that he certainly did not come under enemy fire when he plucked Rassmann out of the drink. Therefore, Kerry did not deserve his honors.

It's true every person on Kerry's boat, along with the thankful Rassmann, insisted they were under fire, and so did the official Navy citation for Kerry's Bronze Star. Still, Swifties held to their unlikely story, and the press pretended to be confused about the stand-off. Then during the last week in August three more eyewitnesses, all backing the Navy's version of events that there had been hostile gun fire, stepped forward. They were Langhofer, Russell and Lambert.

Russell wrote an indignant letter to his local Telluride Daily Planet to dispute the Swifties' claim: "Forever pictured in my mind since that day over 30 years ago John Kerry bending over his boat picking up one of the rangers that we were ferrying from out of the water. All the time we were taking small arms fire from the beach; although because of our fusillade into the jungle, I don't think it was very accurate, thank God. Anyone who doesn't think that we were being fired upon must have been on a different river."

The number of times Russell was subsequently mentioned on CNN: 1. On Fox News: 1. MSNBC: 0. ABC: 1. On CBS: 0. On NBC: 0.

Like Russell, Langhofer also remembered strong enemy gunfire that day. An Aug. 22 article in the Washington Post laid out the details: "Until now, eyewitness evidence supporting Kerry's version had come only from his own crewmen. But yesterday, The Post independently contacted a participant who has not spoken out so far in favor of either camp who remembers coming under enemy fire. “There was a lot of firing going on, and it came from both sides of the river,” said Wayne D. Langhofer, who manned a machine gun aboard PCF-43, the boat that was directly behind Kerry’s. Langhofer said he distinctly remembered the “clack, clack, clack” of enemy AK-47s, as well as muzzle flashes from the riverbanks." (For some strange reason the Post buried its Langhofer scoop in the 50th paragraph of the story.)

The number of times Langhofer was subsequently mentioned on CNN: 0. On Fox News: 0. On MSNBC: 0. On ABC: 0. CBS: 0. NBC: 0.

As for Lambert, The Nation magazine uncovered the official citation for the Bronze Medal he won that same day and it too reported the flotilla of five U.S. boats "came under small-arms and automatic weapons fire from the river banks."

The number of times Lambert was mentioned on. On Fox News: 1. On CNN: 0. On MSNBC: 0. ABC: 1 On CBS: 0. On NBC: 0.

Additionally, the Washington Post's Michael Dobbs, who served as the paper's point person on the Swifty scandal, was asked during an Aug. 30, 2004, online chat with readers why the paper hadn't reported more aggressively on the public statements of Langhofer, Russell and Lambert. Dobbs insisted, "I hope to return to this subject at some point to update readers." But he never did. Post readers, who were deluged with Swifty reporting, received just the sketchiest of facts about Langhofer, Russell and Lambert.

If that doesn't represent a concerted effort by the press to look the other way, then what does?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12799378/#060518

Note: Yes, msnbc is the source for this last part, but it ONLY appeared on their website long after the election when Boehlert's book came out and wasNOT on any of their broadcast news segments. This article was NEVER up for discussion and Boehlert was NOT invited on to any of the daily shows to discuss his book.....unlike those who lie for a living like Jerome Corsi..
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 02:23 PM
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8. BLM, thank you from the bottom of my heart. EOM
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 02:32 PM
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9. it's actually REVEALING more about the posters than they realize. THEY were missing in action
Edited on Fri Aug-22-08 02:33 PM by blm
in 2004 and never furthered Kerry's remarks or his attacks on swifts or Bush, which is EXACTLY what needs to be done. Dem lawmakers needed to further Kerry's attacks immediately after he made them. Left media needed to push the narrative Kerry used to attack swifts and Bush. And left BLOGGERS needed to push relentlessly Kerry's challenge to Bush to debate their services in Vietnam.

Look at the blogosphere and television footage from Aug19-23, 2004. You see very few instances where Kerry's attacks were furthered. That certainly helped corpmedia create their own narrative that Kerry never responded to the swifts. They covered their own complicity and too many Dems still help the corpmedia further their lies, way more than ever helped Kerry further the truth in 2004.
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 08:13 AM
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5. kick for the day crowd
nt
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