The ONLY VP that Obama could pick that would make me not vote for the ticket...

[moriah]

... well, I want to say Lieberman or McCain himself, but I'll be honest here.

If he were, for some completely misguided reason, to choose an anti-choice VP, I would probably sit this election out.

I could NEVER bring myself to vote for McCain. But I just don't know if I'd have it in me to vote with the party if he were to chose an anti-choice VP. It doesn't have to be someone who has devoted their entire careers to protecting choice -- just no one who has dedicated their entire careers to eroding the right to that choice.

Fortunately, I think it'll be a cold day in Hell before he chose a truly anti-Choice VP.

Thank God.

[panader0]

1. This election is way more important than one issue.

Re: abortion rights, what about mccane in office? Vote for Obama, vote Democratic, and keep choice legal.

[moriah]

7. It's not about one issue only, but that issue is important to me.

If he were to choose an anti-Choice VP, it's not likely that the nod would actually do anything to the choice movement. The VP really doesn't have a lot of power.

But it would be a profound demonstration of the judgment he would use in appointing cabinet members and Supreme Court justices. It would also feel like a betrayal.

Again... it doesn't have to be someone who is rabidly pro-choice. I'm quite fond of the "safe, legal, and RARE" viewpoint. I would even grudgingly accept someone who voted on the partial-birth abortion act, or someone who signed a similar act into law in their state.

But this shit just scares me.

"The U.S. Health and Human Services Department regulation, still in draft form, would define abortion as including certain methods of contraception."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/08/21/MNU412F104.DTL

Fuck that fucking shit.

Yeah, McCain would not be any better. He's going to pander to the conservative right-wingers as much as possible to get and keep their vote. The abortion debate is a perfect way to do it.

I wouldn't vote for McCain. But I don't think I could make myself vote on our ticket either, despite my signature graphic, which I truly believe. Fortunately it's not likely, and I'm just scaring myself thinking it's even a possibility.

C'mon, Barack.... give our nerves a break and end the suspense already.

[Milo_Bloom]

2. Anyone who voted for the war.

[Hippo_Tron]

3. Are you talking about Tim Kaine anti-choice or Bob Casey/Jim Langevin anti-choice

Because there's a difference. Tim Kaine is a moderate on choice because he's Governor of a red state. Casey and Langevin come from blue states and are more anti-choice than most red state Democrats.

[moriah]

8. I agree that Kaine is a moderate on choice.

He professes to have a moral disagreement with abortion, and wants more regulation on it, but he does not want to overturn Roe.

You're right about Casey and Langevin, too. I think I could tolerate Langevin more than I could Casey, at least Langevin supports stem cell research on embryos from in-vitro and supports access to EC. Casey, supporting Alito and Roberts? *gag*

Fortunately neither of those worthies have focused quite a bit of attention on the abortion issue.

[Top Cat]

4. It's totally stupid to give up your right to vote

[NYC_SKP]

5. I'm with TC.... and would add that this verges on flamebait.

conditional support for the candidate, fuck that.

threatening to let McCain win, fuck that twice.

Hey, TC, :hi:

[TheKentuckian]

6. It's totally stupid to give McCain at least a half vote

by not voting Obama.

There are two unavoidable options. You either vote Obama or you're supporting John McCain to varying degrees.

We need to remember that the VP can be put in the corner and allowed to speak only when spoken to. Even a less than pro-choice Democrat will do nothing to endanger choice because it will cost him/her beyond dearly.

Let's say that Obama gets offed and VP X has to step in, he's still going to appoint the same overall judges and won't be calling for any Constitutional Amendments.
Then there is the stone cold hard fact that NOT voting for Obama puts choice (or insert issue here) in much greater danger than even a Republican VP.

If you value what you protest over then you;ll vote Obama.

[endthewar]

11. What about people not living in swing states?

I don't think it's all that bad to make a protest vote if your state isn't being contested. For example, although I plan on voting for Obama, I live in Massachusetts. It's not like my vote will be the deciding vote here. :rofl:

[RedShoes]

9. I'm a lukewarm (okay, kinda warming up) Obama supporter and the ONLY thing that gets me back on the

fence is a repig. If he picks Hagel, or Lugar, or whoeve the hell else with an "R" (even if they're considered rino) I *might* be pissed.

Everyone else is A-ok.

[endthewar]

10. Arkansas won't be a swing-state

so you can sleep easy at night even if Obama did choose a pro-life VP. Obviously, it could be a swing-state if Hillary is on the ballot, but she's pro-choice (obviously).

[progressiveforever]

12. Can't understand "I won't vote"

I have heard several people say that line this time around. I admit, I'd rather them not vote than vote for McCain, but I still don't see how anyone- say a Hillary supporter opt not to vote.

[krawhitham]

13. a republican