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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 07:45 PM
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FactCheck: Born in the U.S.A. - The truth about Obama's birth certificate.
Summary

In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his
birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a
natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based
skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author
Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that
the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."

We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched,
examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude
that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for
proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal
or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs
of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our
conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

Note: This is a summary only. The full article with analysis, images
and citations may be viewed on our Web site:


More:
http://www.factcheck.org/mobile/article.php?id=712
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 07:49 PM
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1. Good god, argue over a birth certificate?
I thought this was a non-issue long ago. Looks like the grassy-knollers on the right are going nuts over this one. :eyes:
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 07:53 PM
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3. They are easily amused. ;-> nt
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 07:53 PM
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2. The FactCheck people do excellent work...
I doubt that this article will put to rest the questions that the kool-aid drinkers have...

However, for the rest of us, this article is more than enough documentation that Obama's birth certificate is the real deal.

K&R

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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 07:53 PM
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4. Hopefully that will end this stupid debate.
But I am sure there will still be some who will suspect factcheck.org is biased and are just Obama cult members.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 08:09 PM
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10. See Post #7, Freepers and PUMAs in full out tinfoilhat meltdown. n/t
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 07:53 PM
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5. TexasDarlin is gonna shit a brick
As will the Freeper known as pissant.
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RedShoes Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 07:55 PM
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6. FactCheck: NOT Born in the U.S.A. - The truth about McCain's birth certificate.
I just can't WAIT for the follow up :popcorn:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 08:01 PM
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7. And the Freepers go into FULL OUT TINFOIL HAT MODE!!!
1. What took the campaign so long to show an actual document to the media?

2. What other media did the campaign offer to show the COLB to, and have any others seen it and touched it, handled and photographed it? Or only Annenberg-owned Factcheck?

3. Why did the campaign go to such trouble to digitally black out the certificate number when it could have stuck a piece of solid black tape over the number, especially since, as Factcheck reported, they were in such a hurry?

4. Why did Janice Okubo tell a reporter that the COLB was ordered “this month” (June 2008 ) if it was ordered in June 2007?

5. Since Factcheck is seemingly in the business of helping the Obama campaign fight smears, did Factcheck ask the campaign about the rumor that Republicans are holding Barry Soetoro’s birth certificate? If so, what was the campaign’s response? If not, why not?

And finally…

6. How did Factcheck end up getting this access? Did they ask the campaign, or did the campaign offer to show it to Factcheck? The article is mysteriously vague on that point: “FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate.”

and another:

To: christie

Yup. Why didn’t big ears choose a non-related group to inspect his forgery?

15 posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:02:53 PM by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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And TexasDarlin is freakin'

FactCheck.org Has New Birth Certificate Story
August 21, 2008 · 15 Comments

Well, well. I was wondering when this “story” was going to “break” now that Obama has returned from Hawaii. What a coincidence that it’s today, because we just pointed out that Factcheck.org has a conflict of interest in covering Barack Obama because they are owned by The Annenberg Foundation. And now they have published a new “fight the smears” story about Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth (COLB).

They have a photo of “Factcheck representatives” holding the COLB, and close-ups of the certificate number, stamps, and seal.

Before we go any further, let me stop to say this: YES, I also believe that Obama was born in the USA. I also believe that the Obama COLB reflects his original birth certificate. Read this blog. The issues are multiple citizenships and identities, the status of his current citizenship, updated birth certificates, etc., not to mention his lack of transparency.


http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/factcheckorg-has-new-birth-certificate-story/

This is EXCELLENT! They have now so marginalized their positions they are in Wayne Madsen territory!
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 08:03 PM
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8. Oh dear. Some dearly departeds are gonna totally freak.
Let us pray for their speedy return to sanity.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 08:44 PM
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12. I doubt that'll happen
Most PUMA sites have gone into full out tinfoilhat Wayne MAdsen 911truther meltdown mode.
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Tesibria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 08:09 PM
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9. It gets better - The COLB Cult dismisses this as biased.
I kid you not ... see http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/factcheckorg-has-new-birth-certificate-story:

"... Factcheck.org has a conflict of interest in covering Barack Obama because they are owned by The Annenberg Foundation...."
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 08:25 PM
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11. Yup, they've gone overboard
They're officially nuttier than a 911truther.
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Tesibria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 11:10 AM
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13. But .. the ARE the 911 Truthers!
E.g., Philip Berg, the "esteemed" lawyer who filed suit against Obama yesterday (based on the COLB/Indonesia/Kenya Cult Theories), is a 911 truther who filed suit against Bush/Cheney for conspiring to bring about 911. (Well, he also sued to impeach the Supreme Court for their Gore v. Bush decision ... and a few other similar type suits.)

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Cybergata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 06:47 PM
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14. Unbelievable that anyone would have to go through this ridiculous nonsense.
Our country is pretty sick if a person running for President has to go through this nonsense. He could have been born in Timbuktu, but as long as one of his parents is a citizen of the U.S., then he is a citizen of the U.S. I wonder if anyone every thought of asking his mother if she was a U.S. Citizen. What is it? Are people in this county afraid of his name? Oh, yes, I forgot, they are afraid of brown faces. I thought the swift-boat BS was pretty darn low, but now this is just too much. I want to see McCain's birth certificate, but it is the date I'm interested in. Is he lying about how old he is? He looks much older. In fact, I'd like to schedule an appointment with the doctor concerning his memory lapses. We already had one president with Alzheimer. When Reagan was trying to figure out what leg to put in which pant leg, his boys traded weapons with our enemies and gave guns to men in Nicaragua so they could shoot at kids going to school or people in the Sandinista health clinics. One of the school buses had a 5 foot 2 inch woman from Albuquerque, NM picking up retarded teen-agers to bring them to school and be in her class. No, I don't want another White House Alzheimer patient sitting in the Oval Office.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 06:48 PM
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15. The guy not born in the US
is McCain.
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