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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 07:50 AM Original message |
What is Obama doing wrong? |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 07:53 AM Response to Original message |
1. I can't believe I work around people who still say he's a Muslim and... |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
41. these people who believe that he's muslim are just ignorant. |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #41 |
81. They may be ignorant, but they vote, that's the problem! |
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FatDave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #41 |
100. Willfully ignorant. |
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President Decider (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 07:53 AM Response to Original message |
2. MSM is doing everything possible to keep this race close .... |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 07:54 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. You got it. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 07:55 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Absolutely. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:37 AM Response to Reply #5 |
42. the media and the RW have been angry since Obama |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:02 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. The corporate media are little more than house organs for powerful |
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enough (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:04 AM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Please don't swallow that "ratings" line. They want a McCain win. |
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quantass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
94. +1 |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #2 |
80. That and another set up for stealing yet another election. |
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liberaldem4ever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
98. It is so obvious that the MSM is working hard to elect McCain |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
4. It seems a bit early in the campain to be making excuses. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 07:57 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. it seems a bit disingenuous in the face of the obvious |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:01 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Oh I'm not oblivious. |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:17 AM Response to Reply #9 |
27. rug, you are correct. We all know that race was and is going to be a factor to a certain percentage |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:05 AM Response to Reply #4 |
13. So, why do you think Obama is "underperforming"? |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:11 AM Response to Reply #13 |
22. The immediate thing that comes to mind is the dilution of his platform. |
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Loge23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 07:56 AM Response to Original message |
6. If he's going down - go down swinging |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
8. he's also young and has a short political record |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:07 AM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Those are points that were considered by some during the primaries. |
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enfield collector (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
95. I don't think race is a factor |
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chitty (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
11. I hate to say it, but |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
14. He let McCain punch him for a month and gave mediocre responses |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:07 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. He needs to hit back much harder. I agree. |
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yellerpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
16. Spoke with a dear friend in a nursing home yesterday |
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nevergiveup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
18. A combination of three things |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:16 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. Excellent Points! |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #18 |
86. It is NOT the fault of Hillary supporters that Obama is suddenly running a lousy campaign. |
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PolNewf (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
19. He was away from campaign trail |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #19 |
87. Yeah, that moral high road served us so well with Kerry..... |
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AZSlacker (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
20. The recent McCain bump can probably be attributed to |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:23 AM Response to Reply #20 |
31. His campaign peeps are smart. Just keep donating and volunteering. |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
21. A few ideas... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
23. Of course, racism is a factor. But voters seem to respond |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:25 AM Response to Reply #23 |
34. "America's Economy Needs Obama" is no more substantive than |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 10:23 AM Response to Reply #34 |
67. Economic populism would ensure an easy win, but Obama is no economic populist, unfortunately...nt |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #34 |
76. As I said, we need both nuance and sound bites. |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
24. Thanks for discussing the glaring issues we are facing |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:19 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. For some, the Muslim meme is code for race. So is "I just don't like him." |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:25 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. I almost added that to the post! This is what I heard from |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #33 |
73. If you know Jews who are hesitant about Obama, refer them to |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
25. delete |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
28. I would not humiliate myself by giving any advice. |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
30. Most people aren't even thinking about the campaign yet |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
32. Blame America first |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:39 AM Response to Reply #32 |
43. I remember this saying |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #32 |
68. There are far more Demcrats in America than Republicans. Appeal to US |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
35. It's all about the young and Latino vote, help is needed to reach these groups |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
36. Ignoring the left's most knowledgeable foreign policy expert. |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:30 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Really who cares, we're here to get Obama elected nt |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 09:39 AM Response to Reply #38 |
52. If he keeps that up, that won't be my goal. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #38 |
54. WRONG attitude. Telling people who want a Dem elected 'eff off" when criticizing |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 09:51 AM Response to Reply #54 |
62. I think it is silly to focus on the VP when what matters is getting the White House |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:42 AM Response to Reply #36 |
45. I've not been online a whole lot lately |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
37. ** We all know that this is why we need a massive turnout... why feel depressed |
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wvbygod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
39. I see no evidence of race being a factor in the election |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-21-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #39 |
110. You must be joking. |
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Phoonzang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
40. I think he made 3 big mistakes this month. They are as follows: |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:41 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Hugging McCain at the Faux Family Values Forum was dumb |
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elkston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #40 |
70. Even though you're a Wizardry fan :), I disagree with you. |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
46. Saying it's just racism is much too simplistic an answer. There are a lot of people who are |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #46 |
71. Deleted message |
highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #71 |
74. No, I want Obama to win. As I've been posting here all along. I just don't think he has nearly as |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #46 |
77. She has less experience than he does.. |
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Chloroplast (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #77 |
88. That's not true. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
47. MSM giving McCain a free pass while continuing Hillary spin on Obama |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
48. Primary Obama was a vote making machine |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #48 |
53. How has he "ignored his base" ? What is his base? Define it. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 09:44 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Oh, please. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. No, I don't. Here's what I wrote on another thread-- |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
49. Earlier in the week there was a posting regarding their respective |
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Democat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
50. He is following John Kerry's playbook. |
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MarjorieG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #50 |
69. I'm more thantired reading Kerry didn't hit back. He did, harder than given credit for. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
51. It's not just because he's black. If he won't fight fire with fire, he will be toast. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #51 |
56. I like, "John McCain: Same old, same old"--gets the sameness |
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Beer Snob-50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
58. unfortunatly you are right about the race card! |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
59. He's not attacking McCain's character. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Yep--I think he needs to start attacking McCain not just on character, but on |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. I agree with you on that. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
60. Actually, he's running while principled. |
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Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
61. He's coming across as soft |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
65. Lack of focus on the economy; "Stimulus II" plan insufficient...nt |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
66. Abandoning his base, running to Right of center, not standing strongly for |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #66 |
75. Well, Obama's base better not abandon Obama. McCain is not running to the left. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #75 |
82. The centrists better not abandon Obama? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-21-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #82 |
111. Democrats of all stripes are Obama's base. Or should be. |
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Snellius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
72. Maybe being behind will be the best wake-up call |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
78. You asked, so here it is.... |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. Well put. The ads are as blad and non specific as possible |
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FVZA_Colonel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #78 |
89. I don't think his adds are necessarily bad, but they are aimed at the wrong target. |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
79. that and the campaign finance rules are different for each. |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
84. Not EFFECTIVELY fighting back, weak responses to McCain's ads |
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hoffyburger (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
85. It's just ebb and flow |
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tomg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #85 |
103. I have to agree. Watching the daily |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
90. He did not eat a plate lunch as promised while in Hawaii. |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
91. The Republicans are falling apart |
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Awsi Dooger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
92. We were never going to win comfortably if we nominated a black or a woman |
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StuffyJones (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
93. Couldn't agree more. |
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marlakay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
96. Its not obama it would be any dem |
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Stand and Fight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
97. Bullshit. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
99. He's doing nothing wrong, it's bad to peak too early, save it for the fall |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
101. People don't like change. PERIOD. It does not have to be racial for one to stay within one's |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-21-08 10:09 AM Response to Reply #101 |
109. In what way would Obama be a dramatic change from the past 200 years? |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-21-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #109 |
116. Seems obvious to me anyway. For over the last two hundred years we have had white male presidents |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-21-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #109 |
117. dup |
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Joe Holmes (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
102. Obama is a GREAT candidate. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
104. Deleted message |
tomg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. Interesting first post. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 07:36 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. Deleted message |
depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
105. Pandering |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-21-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #105 |
112. No one has pandered more than McCain. |
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styersc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
107. So fucking ignorant. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-21-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #107 |
113. Just think how ashamed you'd have to be if you were Republican. |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-21-08 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
114. Cali, you took the words out of my mouth. Running while Black. Lots of bigots in the USA. |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-21-08 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
115. May not be the campaign, but some supporters. |
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TheDonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-21-08 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
118. He needs to better define McClown. Right now he has multiple attacks, neither is sticking |
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