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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 12:38 PM
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Network e-mails from Obama headquarters showing that Sebelius will get the nod?
Edited on Tue Aug-19-08 12:50 PM by Carrieyazel
Apparantly, there's been a lot of e-mail chatter between the Obama camp and Sebelius in the past week, according to a "source" talking to McCain's campaign. Apparently some freepers are believing it and posting that Sebelius will get the nod.

What do you think Sebelius's chances are? I would think she had to have made the final 4 or 5. Or is this just a bunch of fake noise????
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 12:40 PM
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1. Obama is polling much better with females than men - I don't think it will be Sebellius
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 02:05 PM
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30. Obama has said that he won't pick a V.P. based on securing votes
but will instead pick one to help him govern.
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 12:40 PM
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no way
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 02:13 PM
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38. why not?
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 12:40 PM
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2. Freepers and McCain's campaign, eh?
Real reliable sources there.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 12:41 PM
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Oh, yeah, they'd have the inside soop.
:eyes:
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 12:41 PM
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3. Ray Taliaferro was saying she was the likely pick
he was saying the a couple of months ago. As of recent he hasn't mentioned her. However, he is in with the Obama camp, I do know that much.

She'd be a great pick IMO.

Anything but ...

:kick:

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Politics_Guy25 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 12:41 PM
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What does she bring to the ticket????
Nothing except enraging Senator Clinton's supporters. She has no foreign policy experience, is a weak speaker, is a governor of a state that we won't carry and has no major accomplishments.

I'll be very disappointed if he picks her. Senators Biden and Bayh or VP Gore are much better than the weak B-team of Kaine and Sebellius.

All in my opinion of course.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 12:57 PM
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16. Bull *hit.
She is a GREAT speaker. I JUST came from listening
to her...no surprise announcements, but SHE, at least,
was an EARLY Obama supporter.

THAT would matter to me if I was Senator Obama.
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 01:31 PM
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26. She wasn't that great when she did the democratic response to the SOU. I do like that
she was an early supporter of Obama. I want Obama to have a running mate that truly believed in him from the very beginning.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 02:54 PM
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42. The only "good" response that I've seen was Jim Webb's...
and he wasn't that great, either.

I didn't see Sebelius give her SOU response,
but our party doesn't seem to view that spot
as an opportunity to score real points...

Probably by DLC design!
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 01:24 PM
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24. why would that especially enrage Hillary supporters?
(they'll be enraged no matter what - the deadenders that is, vast majority will be on board)
that's just nonsense, that's just like saying ALL WOMEN ARE EXACTLY ALIKE SO WHY DON'T YOU PICK HILLARY THEN? THE ONLY THING THAT DEFINES US IS OUR VAGINAS, NOT WHAT AND HOW WE THINK.

that is so SEXIST it's hilarious.

:rofl:
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 12:41 PM
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4. Probably crap. Freepers are faking a CNN site that says Bayh will get the nod,
too.

http://wonkette.com/402006/freepers-find-secret-obama-vp-leak-article-maybe

Someone supposedly got a “screen shot” of some CNN article that was “taken down” before anyone could read it. The article relates in terrible, misspelled prose the curious tale of how an aide accidentally pressed the send button rather than the save button on an email announcing Barack Obama’s vice presidential pick. And then that aide put the turkey to bed and put the baby in the oven, and when she woke up a bloody hook was hanging right outside the window. The aide was then murdered for spamming 2 million Obama supporters with her crap.

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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 12:41 PM
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5. "A source talking to McCain's campaign"?
I'd hope the Obama camp doesn't have a mole infestation that bad.

The McCain camp and the MSM would love to stir the hornet's nest at the idea of a Sibelius pick just to get the die-hard Hillary dead-enders all freaked that another woman was picked.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 12:43 PM
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6. She Has Been On My Short List Of Choices To Expected From The Start, Ma'am
And strikes me as a good choice.

A Democratic woman elected Governor of Kansas must have some especial skill in appealing to independent and cross-over voters....
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 12:44 PM
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7. I hope he doesn't pick her because of what it would do to the Clinton supporters.
I'm afraid they would view it as a slap in the face.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 12:47 PM
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9. Do Clinton supporters consider Hillary the ONLY qualified woman in America?

How sexist of them.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 12:54 PM
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13. If Clinton were the nominee, would Obama supporters think Harold Ford would do just as well as veep
if they thought Obama should be on the ticket?

Btw, I don't think you know the meaning of the term "sexist."

It would be sexist as well as condescending for Obama to choose a female veep who obviously isn't as qualified as Joe Biden, for instance (let alone Hillary Clinton), just because he thinks she will help bring back Clinton supporters.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 12:58 PM
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17. That's not a good analogy. Ford is way too conservative and may not even be able to bring along...
Edited on Tue Aug-19-08 01:00 PM by totodeinhere
his home state. And as far as qualifications go, that consideration is very subjective. Just because someone like Biden has an extensive resume that might not necessarily qualify him over someone else with a shorter resume if one of Obama's main criteria is finding a VP candidate who represents change.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 01:19 PM
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20. You think Sebelius could bring Kansas along, with the lead McCain has there?
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 01:53 PM
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28. Having her on the ticket sure wouldn't hurt the ticket's chances in Kansas.
And then you have Clinton, whose two main strongholds, New York and Arkansas, should go Democrat anyway.
So putting Clinton on the ticket might not bring along any states that aren't already in the Obama column.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 02:11 PM
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36. Arkansas is going Republican this year
but I agree with the overall sentiment that Hillary is not a good V.P. choice. Obama doesn't need to be looking over his shoulder for the next 4 or 8 years wondering what the Clintons are up to. Hillary would try to make it a co-presidency.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 02:09 PM
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35. Obama has said that he won't choose someone just to carry a state or voting block
but will instead choose someone to help him govern.

By the way, Obama won't be picking Hillary. Someone had to break it to you gently so that you don't go all crazy on us when you find out soon enough. :rofl:
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 02:07 PM
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33. If Harold Ford wasn't a DLC-er and closet conservative, yeah... it would be fine.....
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 02:08 PM
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34. They wouldn't consider it a slap in the face
Just that Hillary wanted Harold Ford as her V.P.

Also, Kathleen has more experience than Joe Biden when it comes to energy policy, the economy, and getting out of debt.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 01:24 PM
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22. That's what I keep wondering
if their motivation is abotu getting women in high positions, then why is the obsession with ONE particular woman?

I'd be very excited to see any number of women in that spot, myself.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 02:06 PM
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31. She broke through the glass ceiling... then put another in its place behind her.... apparently....
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 03:16 PM
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43. Not to add to it, but I also wonder everytime I hear that she's the first
Shirley Chisolm doesn't count?

I think the Clintons very successfully marketed this as a first in women's achievement. But I'm not really convinced that it's as open and shut as all that. We have had other women run for president. They have been serious about it, even if they weren't *taken* as seriously as H. Clinton has been.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 02:30 PM
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40. I doubt it
but I'm sure they would consider her more qualified than Sibelius.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 12:54 PM
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14. Why would it be a slap in the face?
If he picks Biden would it be a slap in the face to Richardson? Look, he can only pick one person for VP. Everyone else will be left out. If you are so selfish to think that only one candidate out of so many possibilities is acceptable to you, then there is something wrong.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 02:12 PM
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37. Why? Because Hillary is entitled to the V.P. offer, that's why
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 01:23 PM
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21. You know, that's really getting tiresome.
If these supporters were really concerned with issues, they would have no fight with Obama. If it's about a woman in such a position, then they ought to be thrilled, not upset, by the prospect of Sibelius' getting the nod.

It begins to sound like some weird cult of personality. And I'm sorry, but I just don't see it.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 02:06 PM
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32. Did Hillary break the glass ceiling and rebuild it underneath her?
Just trying to understand why there can only be one woman for V.P.
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Arnold Judas Rimmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 12:45 PM
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8. Not the right ticket for the current brainwashed political climate.
It's already a foregone conclusion that the 'Pukes are going to hype the "national security" fear factory, and this recent Russia/Georgia clusterfuck gives them more ammo to do so. McCain is already pimping it as much as he can.

Sebelius contributes nothing to solving that problem, but Richardson, Clark, or even Biden would. Biden has some other issues that could hurt the campaign (Iraq war vote and the bankruptcy "reform" mess) but at least he has some credibility on the "national security" front. Richardson or Clark would be the preferred choices.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 12:48 PM
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10. If the freepers say it then it must be true!
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 12:49 PM
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11. Hannity said last night he'd heard it would be Kaine or Sebelius.
I suspect he'd be happy about either choice, since they're so weak.

I wouldn't be happy about it. I'd like to see us beat McCain in November, and I don't see any way she helps the ticket, and the choice will bother former Clinton supporters even more than choosing a male VP for military or foreign policy experience.

:thumbsdown:
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 01:00 PM
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18. Do not underestimate Sebelius. She will surprise us
and she probably morph into some kind of attack dog...PUMA's will love her. Not good news for Hillary because if Sebelius becomes VP pick, she is on target for 2016...Sebelius vs. Hillary...The Thrilla in the Villa
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 01:24 PM
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25. I'm not ready to turn to Hannity for news.
Let's wait and see.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 01:48 PM
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27. I'm hoping he's wrong. I was channelsurfing and don't know why he thinks those are the finalists.
Biden would make much more sense. (But he still can't unite the party the way an Obama/Clinton ticket can.)
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 03:18 PM
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44. I'm not convinced that the party is in such dire need of
uniting, actually.

I suspect that's more a meme in the MSM, in their constant battle to create and nurture horse-races. With the exception of a few outliers, I think the Dems are pretty united here.

And remember, Clinton would be a risk, too. She turned off as many as she turned on, if you will. And in the general public, she has as many detractors as supporters.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 12:52 PM
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12. Huh?
How would they know the network traffic statistics? This makes no sens unless one of them runs the network or the mail services.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 12:55 PM
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15. I just got back from the "Michigan Women for Obama" town hall...
She was pretty impressive!

I could ALMOST overlook the fact that
she is a "New Democrat"/DLC darling.

Still, she looked like a miniature President,
and I will not be disappointed if he chooses her.

She is from Kansas, so I will cut her some slack.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 01:04 PM
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19. She's going to be in Iowa Thursday -
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 01:24 PM
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23. She's my first choice
But I don't think she's going to get it, unfortunately.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 01:54 PM
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29. zero to none. Not when Russian tanks are rolling over Georgia (nt)
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 02:15 PM
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39. Like we have troops to send over there anyway
Russia has always hated NATO. We need diplomacy, not war with Russia. Are we going to institute a draft to defend the country of Georgia? Really?!?
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 02:32 PM
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41. talk about a non sequitur....
:eyes:
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