McCain camp goes after Andrew Sullivan - say Col. Bud Day confirms "cross in the sand" story

[sabra]

http://www.johnmccain.com/McCainReport/Read.aspx?guid=f6547446-2b73-4431-a974-edef0a0fe3f0#

Another POW, Same Story

After a brief conversation with Col. Bud Day, I can confirm that Col. Day is most likely the toughest man alive in addition to being the most decorated Air Force veteran in history. Some of the details Day shared with the McCain Report are too gory to reproduce here, but he did confirm that "not long after we all got back together {in the camp}," McCain told him the story of the prison guard who drew a cross in the dirt one Christmas.

"We were bringing each other up to date, he was telling me how he {McCain} had been tortured," Day said. The guards had "busted his arm," and "John was complaining that they'd treated him like an animal." Day said "the only friendly thing the {guards} ever did was hit me on the leg instead of on the head." But, according to Day, McCain wouldn't condemn them all, telling the other men of the occasional act of decency he'd witnessed from his captors. Day says McCain told him how one of those guards had "made a cross with his foot and wiped it out."

Andrew Sullivan is sure that McCain is lying--and that the other men who served with him are lying as well--because McCain didn't tell this story to an appropriate media outlet at a time and place of Sullivan's choosing. But just imagine what Sullivan's response might look like if some right-wing blogger was challenging an element of Obama's biography, an element that could never be definitively proven or disproved, and which there was no reason to doubt beyond this or that circumstantial detail and an absence of irrefutable evidence to the contrary.

[WeDidIt]

1. They're really trying to keep this in the blogosphere

How many more surrogates are they going to trot out to lie about it?

[sabra]

2. seems like they are using the "swift-boaters"

[WeDidIt]

4. Yup, liars all

every last damned one of them.

No lie too big to tell in order to gain power.

[wmbrew0206]

28. I agree that they are trying to keep it in the blogosphere

No MSM reporter is gong to touch this story if you have two other POW's backing up McCain's story.

It one of those, we know McCain is lying but we can't prove it because the people who there are covering for McCain and we can come out and call them liars since we can't techincally prove they are lying.

[JackORoses]

29. those POWs have been disproved based on prior quotes

they are floundering.

[wmbrew0206]

30. Where? I have seen anything that proves these two are lying for sure.

[JackORoses]

38. Swindle is quoted previously saying that McAnus never discussed religion

Bud Day, Swiftliar-in-chief, is quoted in several placing talking about McCain and Religion yet never mentions the cross in the sand.

In fact, McCain never brought it up until he began preparations for his Presidential run.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

31. Yet everyone of Kerry's crewmates backed him up and it was

all over the MSM for weeks.

Hmm.

[wmbrew0206]

32. I thought other people in his unit didn't and that is what caused all the coverage.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

34. Different boats. Same area of operations.

IIrc.

[wmbrew0206]

35. Okay, Thanks.

[blm]

36. Wrong...and no one claimed anything amiss about Kerry's service in Vietnam in 30 yrs

and the lies they did invent in 2004 materialized ONLY because he was the Democratic nominee.

[Alter Ego]

3. If they're taking the time to deny it it must be bugging them.

[sabra]

5. they are also specifically referencing Andrew Sullivan

seems like he hit a nerve...

[WeDidIt]

6. He caught them in their mythbuilding

and it's pissed them off.

[MagickMuffin]

7. Bud to the rescue, once again to save the Day.... After all he was McCheat's divorce lawyer

It's so obvious that they are sticking together on this episode of their brotherhood.

[grantcart]

8. I believe that it is well documented that his broken arms came from the

his ejection and not from the guards

[WeDidIt]

16. Yup, they're making up shit about the shit that we've already verified

They cannot keep from lying about this.

That says something. They know they've been caught in a major fuckup.

[MarjorieG]

9. Bud May rubber stamps everything-including swift boat lies about Kerry.

[ContinentalOp]

10. "some right-wing blogger"? haha

They're trying to imply that Andrew Sullivan is not one?

[mucifer]

11. but there are antimcstupid swift boaters, too. Tho I don't know if they are telling the truth.

[Spazito]

12. Okay, so the first shill they brought out to "confirm" McCain's....

story FAILED spectacularly, now we have another. Running scared, big time, imo. John McCain's arms were broken in the crash as well as his leg, that is one of the few things that IS on the record.

Day is a shill for McCain, has been on Fox and elsewhere and, imo, will say ANYTHING to get McCain elected.

[TwilightGardener]

13. Orson Swindle and Bud Day need to go after the REAL Mythbusters on

this story: The Freepers.

[Spazito]

21. LOL, too true, it is their buds, or probably their former buds now...

that raised this issue first. A rabid RIGHT WING site, gotta love it.

[miles 2 go]

14. Oh, we're back to it being with the foot again?

foot, stick, sandal? Did they really wear sandals? Make up your mind McLame.

Even if he told them the story, it doesn't mean he didn't steal it.

I doubt anyone who refers to them as gooks that he will hate forever would actually praise them anyway.

[TwilightGardener]

19. That's a good point--why would a prison guard wear sandals?

[Barack_America]

15. And yet none of these men ever told this story until 2000?

When McCain finally decides to tell it in the 3rd person?

Amazing.

[ingac70]

17. More lies..

in this little yarn McCain's arms got busted by guards, when in fact that happened during the ejection. Can he and his buddies EVER keep a story straight?

[Ichingcarpenter]

18. Andrew Sullivan must play "Dungeons and Dragons in his Mother's basement"

That's what they said about anyone that criticizes McCone's stories.
The longer this fight goes on between Sullivan and the McCain camp
the more the story gets played, which creates more doubt on the authenticity
of McCain.

Let the McCain camp release McCain's deprogramming record from the military plus
his complete medical record to dispel this once and for all.

They will never do that.

[bushisanidiot]

20. Songbird McLame "suddenly remembers" this little story, then his buddies "suddenly remember" too

Funny, how they all had such a bad memory about the same incident, as it's never been mentioned til now, but they got their memories back at exactly the same time.

I call BULLSHIT!!

[Neshanic]

22. Andy's innoculation and recovery for being a republican shill is almost complete.

[blogslut]

23. Reading between the lines

The McSame camp is saying: "There were no witnesses so Sullivan can't prove or disprove nuthin"

[TwilightGardener]

24. Exactly.

[JackORoses]

39. but there are elements in McAnus' story that can be disproven

He said the 'rope-loosener' was the 'cross-drawer' but he was at separate Prison camps for these events.

His story is full of holes, and is getting moreso as the searchlight gets brighter.

[Honu one]

25. Oh come on. How can we not believe the 83 year old guy

who wants to put his buddy in the WH? :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

He's going to need better than the fading memory of a very old (and biased) man to quash this.

[anonymous171]

26. Wasn't Col Bud Day one of the swift liars?

[sabra]

27. yep indeed he was/is

[SuperTrouper]

33. Call him Professional liar

[ProSense]

37. MORE EVIDENCE THAT McCAIN'S "CROSS IN THE DIRT" STORY ISN'T TRUE

MORE EVIDENCE THAT McCAIN'S "CROSS IN THE DIRT" STORY ISN'T TRUE