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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 08:13 PM
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Good Article On Clark As Obama's VP
Edited on Mon Aug-18-08 08:15 PM by Dinger
http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=7255

"The basic idea behind Clark for VP is that we want to make a little noise about the position of Vice President and ask that Obama consider a real progressive in that slot who can help fix some of the most damaging aspects of the Bush Presidency.

The political argument for Clark is simple. He is a great surrogate for Democrats, with experience in 2004 and 2006 on the campaign trail, and a genuine national base of supporters. In terms of governance, which is what Obama says is the most important criteria for his VP pick, Clark can help Obama deal with the mess that the Bush administration left behind. As commander of NATO in the late 1990s, Clark won a war, so he is more likely than any progressive out there to be able to wrangle solutions from a military establishment that has been decimated by Bush's cronyism and incompetence. That is really important moving forward, since rebuilding our national security posture is a critical challenge over the next eight years

Clark also emphasizes Obama's strengths. He is popular among grassroots progressives, he was against the war in Iraq from the get-go, and he is an outsider to politics. He also demonstrated terrific political judgment in being willing to work against Lieberman in 2006, unlike, say, Tim Kaine, who endorsed Lieberman for President in 2004. This kind of savvy political judgment can help Obama avoid landmines down the road, and the Bush administration has left very little but landmines for the next President.

Before the idiot DC villagers threw a hissy fit about Clark, he was on the short list for VP. Is it realistic to see him back on that list? Well really, it's up to Obama. Choosing Clark would be a clear demonstration that Obama intends to significantly shift the political debate in the country and that he refuses to allow old school bitchy sniping from DC insiders to dominate our national political discourse. What Clark said - that McCain has no experience in national security decision-making - is absolutely true, and it's a point that needs emphasis repeatedly and effectively by someone who can deliver it. . . . "
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 08:20 PM
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1. You can bet that Obama will find the best place possible for Clark!
May not be Vice President?
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 08:20 PM
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2. I don't count anything out.
Clark could be in Italy, but he could also fly back if the need arose.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 08:23 PM
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3. I will never understand how the "idiot DC villagers' hissy fit" should affect the DEM process!!!
That's what infuriates me. They smeared him, ergo, he's out of the running. Well, how convenient for them!!

Let's pick somebody "safe" and "not risky." Let's make sure our attack dog is nice, and doesn't have sharp teeth. That's what they do, right? (Dick Cheney, anyone?)
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 08:28 PM
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4. Sparkly, That DESERVES It's Own Thread
Please do it buddy:)



:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 09:00 PM
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7. Really?
:blush:

My threads always sink.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 09:03 PM
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8. Awww, C'mon, I'll Give Ya Some Love
Do it, pretty please?
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 08:36 PM
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5. If it were to happen
I'd max out on donations, and I'm a tight SOB.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 08:48 PM
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6. LOL, Me Too
And my husband would kill me, but it'd be worth it!


:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 09:25 PM
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9. I am very afraid that it will not happen, but it would be so wonderful for
the selection to be Clark. It would be a serious amd winning combo. I do NOT understand why the choice is so limited to the 3 that are being mentioned.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 09:31 PM
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10. Me either.
Biden: Sharp guy. I'll give him that. But he's a bit wonkish and would be known as the MBNA senator. Not to mention that folks South of Maryland and West of Ohio (with the exception of the far west coast) don't have a clue who he is.

Bayh: See "milquetoast" in the dictionary.

Kaine: He's OK. Would flip some purple states - or has the potential - but he also leans anti-choice and, frankly, is kind of goofy looking (which, unfortunately, matters).

This is our cream of the crop? It can't be!
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:12 PM
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11. Belated Kick For Exposure
It really is a good article:)



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alydar Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:32 PM
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12. There is no doubt that Clark is the one McCain fears most
You could tell when McCain (not one of his surrogates) said Obama should "cut him loose" after the Face the Nation flap. That was extraordinary and rare for a candidate (as opposed to staff) to tell another candidate to get rid of a surrogate. Especially after something as relatively mild as what Clark said. I thought it was telling.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:40 PM
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15. mccain's camp will uncork the champagne if it's anybody else (nt)
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:33 PM
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13. Great Article - thanks for posting
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:41 PM
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16. You're Welcome!
:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:37 PM
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14. i so want it ot be clark....
THAT would really get me EXCITED about the presidential race.
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