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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 05:00 PM
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Transcript: You publicly say that you are a follower of Christ. What does that mean to you?
10 FIRST, YOU'VE MADE NO DOUBT

11 ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN. YOU PUBLICLY

12 SAY YOU ARE A FOLLOWER OF CHRIST. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO

13 YOU AND HOW DOES FAITH WORK OUT IN YOUR LIFE ON A DAILY

14 BASIS? WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO YOU?

15 A MEANS I'M SAVED AND FOREGIVEN AND WE'RE TALKING

16 ABOUT THE WORLD. OUR FAITH ENCOMPASSES NOT JUST THE

17 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA BUT THE WORLD. CAN I TELL YOU

18 ANOTHER STORY REAL QUICK?

19 Q SURE.

20 A VIETNAMESE KEPT US IN PRISON IN CONDITIONS OF

21 SOLITAIRY CONFINEMENT FOR TWO OR THREE TO A CELL. THEY

22 DID THAT BECAUSE THEY KNEW THEY COULD BREAK DOWN OUR

23 RESISTANCE. ONE OF THE TECHNIQUES THAT THEY USED TO GET

24 INFORMATION WAS TO TAKE ROPES AND TIE THEM AROUND YOUR

25 BICEPS, PULL YOUR BICEPS BEHIND YOU, LOOP THE ROPE AROUND

1 YOUR HEAD, PULL YOUR HEAD DOWN BETWEEN YOUR KNEES AND

2 LEAVE YOU IN THAT POSITION. YOU CAN MANAGE, IT'S VERY

3 UNCOMFORTABLE. ONE NIGHT I WAS BEING PUNISHED IN THAT

4 FASHION. ALL OF A SUDDEN THE DOOR OF THE CELL OPENED, THE

5 GUARD CAME IN, A GUY WHO WAS JUST WHAT WE CALL A GUN

6 GUARD. HE JUST WALKED AROUND THE CAMP WITH A GUN ON HIS

7 SHOULDER. HE WENT LIKE THIS AND THEN HE LOOSENED THE

8 ROPES. HE CAME BACK ABOUT FOUR HOURS LATER, HE TIGHTENED

9 THEM UP AGAIN AND LEFT. THE FOLLOWING CHRISTMAS, BECAUSE

10 IT WAS CHRISTMAS DAY, WE WERE ALLOWED TO STAND OUTSIDE OF

11 OUR CELL FOR A FEW MINUTES, AND THOSE DAYS WE WERE NOT

12 ALLOWED TO SEE OR COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER ALTHOUGH WE

13 CERTAINLY DID. AND I WAS STANDING OUTSIDE FOR MY FEW

14 MINUTES, OUTSIDE MY CELL. HE CAME WALKING UP. HE STOOD

15 THERE FOR A MINUTE AND WITH HIS HANDLE ON THE DIRT IN THE

16 COURTYARD HE DREW A CROSS AND HE STOOD THERE AND A MINUTE

17 LATER, HE RUBBED IT OUT AND WALKED AWAY. FOR A MINUTE

18 THERE, THERE WAS JUST TWO CHRISTIANS WORSHIPPING TOGETHER.

19 I'LL NEVER FORGET THAT MOMENT SO EVERY DAY --

http://www.rickwarrennews.com/transcript/


What a STUNNING answer to that question.... just STUNNING. :o
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 05:03 PM
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1. What a nice story. Too bad it's fake.
McCain likes to change the story of his POW days.

First he gave interrogators the names of the Green Bay Packers lineup, then he said it was the Steelers.

It's horrible enough, what he went through. Why does he have to lie about it?
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 05:10 PM
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2. He didn't answer the damned question. n/t
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gblady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 05:18 PM
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4. I would imagine that's because...
he has no faith based example in real life that he lives by...
he has no clue how to apply the question to his life, IMHO.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 05:44 PM
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7. I think you nailed it. nt
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 05:15 PM
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3. In McCain''s Xmas Ad, the story says the guard used a stick. Last night he said 'sandal'
Edited on Sun Aug-17-08 05:16 PM by cryingshame
which was it McCain?

BTW, the transcript wrote "handle". McCain said "Sandal"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WTu7drLfRc
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Maureen1322 Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 05:25 PM
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5. I heard someone on C-Span say this morning the story
was straight out of the movie Ben-Hur, 1958.
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AndreaCG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 05:28 PM
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6. I read that it was Alexander Solzynietchen (sp?)
His Gulag Archipelago published in 1973 and that McCain was a fan of it.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 05:54 PM
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8. translation of
what was being said, in my admittedly jaded view:

"I"M SAVED" (buzz word) Forgiven (another buzz word, but can't elaborate, and feel uncomfortable saying so lets just go "global")

And it's about the WORLD (might as well throw out a big net, I call myself baptist, but not exactly sure I fit... better salvage this...)

I'm going to do you a favor and talk about my suffering for my country- my 'ticket' the thing that happened to me I'm most 'appreciative' of, because while it was no picnic, it shuts people up like nobodys business.

Torture, Vietnam, Hanoi Hilton, excruciating pain, endless suffering, in the middle of it all someone comes in and gives me some relief- I can't say that without you thinking that maybe they weren't ALL as bad as I want you to think, so let me join this together with a 'Christmas' story- I was 'on break' on a lonely Christmas, and this guard- the very same guard that showed kindness to me (the only reason this monster showed any 'kindness' was that he was not really Vietnamese, he was a "Christian"-) and there, in the dirt, he took his handle- (to what? doesn't matter) and scratched the universal symbol of Christ into the dust.
God ordained my suffering, and he wants me to tell you this story so you know I'm god's choice, and I've got a lot of experience being a 'Christian'.

To be fair, I can see him searching his mind for what to say, and bringing up what to him seemed like a significant 'sign'at a time in his life when he was in 'deep despair'. A time when even people who don' believe in any kind of 'god' sometimes experience things they later question.

He said nothing at all about how his 'faith' impacts him on a daily basis. He doesn't even seem to have learned about mercy or to care much about being sure that what was done to him is never repeated against others. :shrug:

People who were really listening to him, and who wanted to hear honest answers, (even if those answers aren't what they wanted to hear) weren't fooled by McCain I don't think. Those who were sold on McCain as a result of what he said last night, were never going to choose Obama anyway. IMO

:hi:

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