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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:44 PM
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Official Saddleback Church Political Forum thread #6
Edited on Sat Aug-16-08 08:46 PM by Catshrink
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:45 PM
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1. Kicking
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:45 PM
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2. Shut the fuck up with the "my friends" crap already.
I'm still doing the drinking game and completely getting trashed.
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Madam Mossfern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:46 PM
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8. If it's about energy
invest all that money that you won't have because of tax breaks in alternative energy research.
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:47 PM
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10. put down the glass and walk away....
I don't think you can win this one! too many "my friendssssss"
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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:50 PM
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26. Like the saying goes - with friends like him, who needs enemies?
What a bunch of pandering bs!
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:50 PM
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Whoever is drinking per "my friends" must be passed out by now n/t
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:46 PM
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3. I thought Obamas
hour was to short...and why oh why hasn't McCain's ended yet?
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:46 PM
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6. Because Obama gave thoughtful, long answers
McSame is giving glib one-liners.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:47 PM
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9. and McCain takes forever to transmit so.... little..... content.... my....friends..
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:49 PM
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22. Imagine four years of his bleating nt
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:50 PM
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35. I think I would never turn on the radio (already don't have a TV) nt
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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:51 PM
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40. Just kill me if that happens.
I hate McCain more and more every time I see or hear him.
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:46 PM
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4. what?
now he cares about Human suffering?
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Mother Of Four Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:46 PM
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5. What the &*($&#*^$#(?


He's winding, is he EVER going to answer a question fully?

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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:46 PM
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7. this behavior is not acceptable in the 21st century? WHAT DO YOU CALL IRAQ???
:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:48 PM
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12. WORD
Talk about disconnect...
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:47 PM
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11. So McCain has mentioned Reagan at least 3 times - how many times Bush? nt
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:49 PM
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16. POW, Freedom, Reagan. POW, Freedom, Reagan
Ugh.
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:49 PM
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20. at least once
when talking about judges and how proud he was of Bush's choices.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:55 PM
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53. that's right. but Petraeus took a FAILING war and turned it into a win. nt
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Madam Mossfern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:48 PM
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13. What about Buddhists?
And Muslims and Taoists and Zoastrians and Wiccans?
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:50 PM
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25. They don't count in Repukeworld
Just "murikan fundymentals.
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Mother Of Four Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:48 PM
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14. I find it really hard to believe these people-

are lapping this crap up. What would you DO Mr. McCain?....you barely mentioned the bully pulpit- and THAT'S ALL. You went straight to a damn stump speech!
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:49 PM
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15. PRAYER: that my fellow Americans can perceive how dangerous this man would be as a leader nt
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:49 PM
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21. I'll join you in that. nt
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:51 PM
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41. AMEN
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:52 PM
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44. War, war, war, how do you like it, how do you like it?
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:53 PM
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49. Oh, Crap.. I got that joke.. (embarrassed)
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 09:07 PM
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75. I think that was the song playing in McSame's head while he was talking
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:49 PM
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17. here's an idea...
McCain could adopt an awful lot of orphans in his TEN homes....
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:49 PM
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18. so the international adoption question is there just for him
I'm sorry, but international adoption is NOT one of the top 100 priorities for this country.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:50 PM
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29. Pretty much
:mad:
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gblady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:49 PM
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19. Warren crying....
over the orphan issue....

McCain...looking at him like WTF
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:49 PM
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23. McCain is making a fool out of himself
His performance is disgraceful.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:50 PM
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24. NOw he's pandering with references to Mother Teresa
he has no shame.
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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:54 PM
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50. He inserted some church or religious reference in every answer,
even when the question had NOTHING to do with religion. Most American people are too stupid to see what a crock of **** he is putting out.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:50 PM
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27. McCains next solution: adopt more kids
Gee thanks!
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:50 PM
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28. what happened to the other baby?????
why didn't Cindy bring them both home? not like she couldn't afford it....
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:50 PM
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30. canned response to the "why do you want to be President" question
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Mother Of Four Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:50 PM
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31. Look what I bought honey!
A BABY!


Ok....but that STILL doesn't answer his question about what HE would do as president to help orphans.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:50 PM
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33. Let's make adoption easier
unless the parents are gay, in which case let's keep the kids in an institution.

Funny how he left that part out.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:53 PM
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48. Exactly. I wish Warren would've pressed him on that. Hopefully, Obama will make an ad out of
that and some other answers.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:50 PM
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34. Canned sound bites and stump speech snippets.
weak
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:51 PM
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36. Not only were the questions tailored for him but
they were sent to him in advance...

no question.
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:51 PM
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37. Adoption: Cindy said Meet your new Daughter
Isn't it a little Odd that he wasn't there?
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:51 PM
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38. Sick and tired of his military reference.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:51 PM
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39. I (unlike Obama) put my country first.
:eyes:
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:52 PM
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45. exactly. nt
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Madam Mossfern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:52 PM
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42. Inspire?
Back to the military....
Yes, optimism......right.....

African American women who are wonderful and lovely...how sweet of him.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:52 PM
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43. what the fuck does country first mean anyway other than a snide attack on Obama?
all other countries be damned?

since when is he an isolationist putting his country first?
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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:55 PM
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58. Mainly an implied slam at Obama, but also "look at me, I managed to get captured in Vietnam."
Since when does being a POW make you a military expert?
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:53 PM
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AAARGGHHH!!!! Adoption is not something you do on a whim
you frickin butthole.

I can't help but think he gave Warren the questions he was going to answer.


:nuke: :nuke:


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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:55 PM
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57. If you're high on pills, you do.
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:53 PM
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46. More blatant bullshit
This country's founding documents were created by a bunch of Unitarian deists.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:53 PM
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47. dammit, I wish my internet connection had gone out tonight. now I'm just pissed off. nt
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:54 PM
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51. Two different forums were conducted there. n/t
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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:56 PM
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59. You got it.
But what do you expect? My head is going to explode.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:54 PM
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52. Set Up. McCain had the questions ahead of time.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:55 PM
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56. Agree.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:56 PM
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60. I disagree. But I DO think the questions were asked of both of them knowing they were tailor-made
to McCain.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 09:00 PM
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68. Agree, the questions, after all, were coming from a fundamentalist
point of view which the repubs have pandered to for a very long time. I don't think the questions were given to McBush ahead of time, when it came to the typical fundie issues, it's not hard to just mouth the usual repub rhetoric which is what McBush did.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 09:05 PM
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74. McCain was far too coached, and too quick on the draw.
The divorce question. He knew to admit it, say nothing of detail, and knew he wasn't going to get called on it by Warren. He knew he had a free pass.

I'm not saying Warren was in on it, but the entire Bush McCain apparatus has many ways to get information. He knew the questions, and the proof is in the way he was prepared for EVERY question quickly. He cannot speak that way without being coached and prepped.
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:59 PM
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65. I thing they both might have
at least to some extent

Obama made some reference to that when he was talking about (I think) the orphan thing.
He said "I cheated, I looked this up before I came here" or something like that.

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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:55 PM
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54. well now that sucked
and i don't care how loud any claps ..McCain is not inspiring at all.
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Madam Mossfern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:55 PM
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55. I think we all kinda knew
that it would be like this...we were just hoping against it.
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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:57 PM
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61. Of course - Obama had no real choice but to participate in this farce. eom
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:57 PM
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62. Buchanan now spinning like a fucking tornado
McCain won going away, hands down,,,,,
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:57 PM
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63. Well, Obama risked little and gained the chance to pick up some support
McBush risked nothing but is less likely to pick up support that he didn't already have, imo.



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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:59 PM
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64. Well, that was an hour I'll never get back!
Obama gave thoughtful, truthful answers not two-word stump speech tripe.

Sum it up for McCain:
WAR
WAR
WAR
MY FRIENDS
POW
POW
POW
MY FRIENDS

When Barack finished I looked over at my husband (Republican, former Navy Lt RIO Top Gun) and he was crying. He could barely speak but managed to say that he has never felt this way about a presidential candidate in his life. He would be so proud to call him his President.
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mtf80123 Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:59 PM
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66. NO MORE FORUMS!
Debate face to face!
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RNdaSilva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:59 PM
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67. Second time he's mentioned reaching across the aisle.
Edited on Sat Aug-16-08 09:04 PM by RNdaSilva
Can one do that in absentia?
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 09:00 PM
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69. would that be the bus aisle? nt
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RNdaSilva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 09:01 PM
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70. Much ado about nothing...
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gblady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 09:01 PM
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71. on CNN
now the spin begins......ad nauseum!
don't think my stomach is up for it...
especially after watching McPuke.
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progdog Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 09:02 PM
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72. Rick Warren is a complete
phony. Purpose driven for McSame.
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RNdaSilva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 09:18 PM
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76. Back to the Olympics...TiVo(ed)
Shall await Keith Olbermann's analysis...which, undoubtedly, will agree with mine.
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