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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 01:38 PM
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JoeTrippi ... this movement spells disaster for the Republican party long term.
More To Saddleback — Rick Warren’s Efforts to Realign Religion May Realign Politics

Interesting piece by Alan Wolfe over at The New Republic about Rick Warren’s efforts for his church to welcome both parties. Warren wants to be seen as the “anti-Falwell”, and move towards a place where churches are no longer seen as connected to any one political party. Wolfe clearly sees how this benefits Obama in the short term, and Warren and America’s churches in long term.

But as I read Wolfe’s argument it became clear to me that if he is right, and I think he is, this movement spells disaster for the Republican party long term. The religious right fueled the rise of the Republican majority from Reagan to Gingrich and beyond. If Warren succeeds in moving America’s churches towards non-partisanship the Republican party loses any chance of becoming a majority party over the long haul. It may turn out that Warren is as big a threat to the Republican party in future election cycles as the progressive netroots are today.

From Wolfe’s piece - “If Rick Warren is successful in linking both political parties with his church, he will pave the way to a situation in which churches will no longer be identified with any political party. Then and only then will evangelical Protestantism become the moral and spiritual force it ought to be, urging its members to manifest their compassion, reminding them of their inclination to sin, and helping them find ways to reconcile their conviction that their God is the one and true Lord with those who adhere to other faiths or none at all.

The joint appearance of McCain and Obama at Saddleback is only one event in a long political campaign. But it is also a significant antidote to the poison that the religious right injected into American politics. The United States is unlikely ever to be as secular as Western Europe. If a better balance between religion and politics is to come about, it will because of what religious leaders do, and not because of what non-believers such as myself want to happen.”

http://joetrippi.com/blog/?p=2440

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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 01:40 PM
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1. Good read, thanks for posting this
Recommended.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 01:43 PM
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2. I hope he's right.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 01:45 PM
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3. Maybe we will be able to take religion out of politics again
There is no place for religion in politics and no place for politics in religion.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 01:47 PM
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4. One other good piece of news this week for the GOP ...
CNN did a bit, it was't oriented toward politics, but ...

Apparently, in the next couple of decades, there will be more minorities than simple caucasians in this country ...

Unhinge the religious right and add in more ethnicity ...

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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 01:56 PM
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5. Here in CA it has been that way since the 90's and we are doing fine .....
except the state is broke .... has nothing to do with the race factors though.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 02:54 PM
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6. Good article. Thanks for sharing.
I can't wait for today's forum. McCain could be painful to watch; a very stark contrast to the clear-minded, well-spoken Obama.

Get the wine chilled and the popcorn popped. This going to be fun. :beer: :popcorn:
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:02 PM
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7. I'm Not Sure I Believe The Republican Party Will Be the Republican Party We've Known - Or the Dems
Edited on Sat Aug-16-08 03:03 PM by Crisco
What I see going on is the realization of many of the last several cycles' worth of Republican backers becoming Democratic backers out of expedience. Some is happening on their own steam, some may be sincere and what's truly horrifying is Rahm Emmanuel going around recruiting Republican power players to switch from Red to Blue and get elected.

Or to put it more bluntly: rats deserting a sinking ship.
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